Star Trek: Alpha to Delta Quadrants & Everything In Between

[sjsharksfan12]

Discovery is such an interesting series for me. I rewatched Seasons 1 and 2 and really enjoyed them, especially Season 1. I loved seeing Pike in Season 2 and really delving into Saru's homeworld. I actually thought Season 2 was Saru's best season because they actually did a great job developing him. Season 3 had the disappointing revelation of the Burn which ruined the season for me. Season 4 was really interesting but took too long to get where it was going. I loved the stuff with Zora and when they finally made contact with 10-C, but I wish the contact with 10-C happened a lot sooner. That episode where they were utilizing Math to communicate with 10-C was this modern era's version of Darmok for me, probably even more interesting. I just wish they didn't make Turka (Or was it Tarka, I forget) the mustache twirling villian that he became. When it was only Book who agreed with him because the mighty federation would never do that, I wasn't a fan of that plotline. He had somewhat good points, especially not wanting to forget the damage that 10-C had caused, especially to Book's Planet. If that had been the Vulcan/Romulan planet (I forget what that was called), I don't think they would be as forgiving.

Considering next season is the end I'm actually looking forward to seeing how it does end. I still wish they would have found Prime Lorca and maybe address Calypso. Also, if it is the end, can we get some Short Treks back as preambles to the final season. I really miss the Short Trek format and think if it hadn't been for Covid, we would have gotten more of them.

This last episode of Picard was actually really good. Got some DS9 vibes while I was watching.

 

[phrehdd]

Once they travelled to future, it was lore breaking for me, I know the experimental drive that occurred before TOS was lore breaking anyways but I think that just exacerbated the situation. I think the burn is an interesting arc and a fragmented federation is also a decent story line, though having the vulcans pull out of the federation seemed out character to me.

Overall, it felt that the ship, and people failed to fit in with the Pre-TOS time line and they didn't fit in so far into the future as well.

I was okay with everything before the jump into the future when it went south very very quickly. So many good things were included and some bad as well. I guess that made it a legit S.T. show. Once in the future, it wasn't just bad but annoyingly bad. Yeow for me was a standout and at times made the episodes more than satisfying. I can only hope the spin-off as it were, fairs better though it too shows some writers decay as well.

 

[Rafterman]

Still enjoying Picard season 3. Highlight of episode 4 - Seven, calling Shaw a dick.

 

[Jack Neill]

Still enjoying Picard season 3. Highlight of episode 4 - Seven, calling Shaw a dick.

I have been enjoying S3 as well, I enjoyed Shaw saying to forget what happened in Season 2 on the stargazer. LOL That was awesome. Shaw has been a great character.

 

[Rafterman]

I have been enjoying S3 as well, I enjoyed Shaw saying to forget what happened in Season 2 on the stargazer. LOL That was awesome. Shaw has been a great character.

And even a weed reference.

"Sadly, no."

 

[Rafterman]

I saw an article that said there was a push for a Shaw/Seven series. They are building a chemistry of respect but not like each other. That would be a new Star Trek dynamic.

I would love to see it. But a few factors against it.

1. Paramount is cost cutting. We will be lucky to keep SNW and LD.
2. There are already two ship based series (3, but Discovery is ending)
3. That Section 31 series is still floating out there

 

[bradl]

I saw an article that said there was a push for a Shaw/Seven series. They are building a chemistry of respect but not like each other. That would be a new Star Trek dynamic.

I would love to see it. But a few factors against it.

1. Paramount is cost cutting. We will be lucky to keep SNW and LD.
2. There are already two ship based series (3, but Discovery is ending)
3. That Section 31 series is still floating out there

If Section 31 is still out there, that could lend credence with something happening with DS9, especially since a lot of that revolved around Bashir.

BL.

 

[Rafterman]

If Section 31 is still out there, that could lend credence with something happening with DS9, especially since a lot of that revolved around Bashir.

BL.

Now that Michelle Yeoh is an Oscar winner, maybe that project will get a push.

 

[cwerdna]

Now that Michelle Yeoh is an Oscar winner, maybe that project will get a push.

Hard to say. She might become either too expensive or have too many job offers.

OT:
William Shatner on ‘Star Trek,’ Space Travel and Mortality: ‘I Don’t Have Long to Live’
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...l-death-leonard-nimoy-documentary-1235548320/

 

[maflynn]

William Shatner on ‘Star Trek,’ Space Travel and Mortality: ‘I Don’t Have Long to Live’

I saw that, it seemed more like he gave a clickbait answer - in a sense, of course he doesn't have long to live, he's 91.

 

[iZac]

Now that Michelle Yeoh is an Oscar winner, maybe that project will get a push.

...so she just got priced out of Paramounts budget I mean they can't even afford to do HD remasters of DS9 and VOY.

I'm warming up to Picard Season 3 now, but maybe I'm 'simping' as the kids say because I'm just excited to see all the old cast turn up.

On a related note, I was really proud of my wife the other day - I questioned out loud why Picards TNG comm badge still worked after like 30 years. She looked up from her phone and matter-of-factly told me:

"...It runs on nostalgia"

Maybe that sums up the whole of Season 3

 

[bradl]

...so she just got priced out of Paramounts budget I mean they can't even afford to do HD remasters of DS9 and VOY.

I'm warming up to Picard Season 3 now, but maybe I'm 'simping' as the kids say because I'm just excited to see all the old cast turn up.

On a related note, I was really proud of my wife the other day - I questioned out loud why Picards TNG comm badge still worked after like 30 years. She looked up from her phone and matter-of-factly told me:

"...It runs on nostalgia"

Maybe that sums up the whole of Season 3

Funny you pondered that question.. Everyone I knew asked that same question as to how the comm badges from the Enterprise-C still worked in Yesterday's Enterprise. Same could easily apply here..

BL.

 

[maflynn]

Maybe that sums up the whole of Season 3

Yep, that's what they were hoping for.

I've read that supporting cast is knocking it out of the park in terms of gravitas, and acting, but the storyline is too slow and plodding, taking 4 episodes to explain the plot instead of maybe one. Maybe it will pick up more speed now that got the prologue stuff out of the way, i.e., the actual meat of the story.

 

[Rafterman]

...so she just got priced out of Paramounts budget I mean they can't even afford to do HD remasters of DS9 and VOY.

I'm warming up to Picard Season 3 now, but maybe I'm 'simping' as the kids say because I'm just excited to see all the old cast turn up.

On a related note, I was really proud of my wife the other day - I questioned out loud why Picards TNG comm badge still worked after like 30 years. She looked up from her phone and matter-of-factly told me:

"...It runs on nostalgia"

Maybe that sums up the whole of Season 3

I saw that in an episode once, I think. It runs on a regenerative power cell. I.e., a self charging battery.

 

[Rafterman]

Remember that episode in TNG, season 6 I think, where Riker had a transporter clone, "Thomas?"

Apparently, they were going to kill Cdr. Riker off, and have Lt Cdr. Thomas Riker take over ops and Data would have been promoted to first officer. The script was written, but as it came time to shoot, the producers chickened out on the idea and showrunner Michael Pillar vetoed it.

Just thought it was interesting...it would have changed the whole dynamic of the friendship ST: Picard has laid out between Picard and Riker.

 

[bradl]

Remember that episode in TNG, season 6 I think, where Riker had a transporter clone, "Thomas?"

Apparently, they were going to kill Cdr. Riker off, and have Lt Cdr. Thomas Riker take over ops and Data would have been promoted to first officer. The script was written, but as it came time to shoot, the producers chickened out on the idea and showrunner Michael Pillar vetoed it.

Just thought it was interesting...it would have changed the whole dynamic of the friendship ST: Picard has laid out between Picard and Riker.

Wheaton would have loved it, and would have pursuaded him to come back to the show. He thought it was a bit too utopian, and believed that the show lacked some sort of conflict that gave TOS that edge. Thankfully they didn't go down this route, because that dynamic would have really hurt the show, especially given how they were going to add that conflict into DS9 and VOY.

BL.

 

[Rafterman]

Just a thought, after episode 4 and all the talk of compromised Starfleet, I wonder...remember that episode of TNG in season 1 or 2, with the creatures that took over some admirals - and Picard and Riker phasered the leader's head off, all explod-ey? They never finished that storyline. I wonder if these creatures and the changelings got together to take down Starfleet? With all the callbacks, finishing that storyline could be one of them.

 

[bradl]

Just a thought, after episode 4 and all the talk of compromised Starfleet, I wonder...remember that episode of TNG in season 1 or 2, with the creatures that took over some admirals - and Picard and Riker phasered the leader's head off, all explod-ey? They never finished that storyline. I wonder if these creatures and the changelings got together to take down Starfleet? With all the callbacks, finishing that storyline could be one of them.

They should have, yes.. That was a freaky but good episode.. it was really good how they laid out the sequence of events in the season 1 episode The Neutral Zone, as that episode became the prequel/laid the foundation of the Borg. But you're right; they never finished that story.

BL.

 

[Rafterman]

They should have, yes.. That was a freaky but good episode.. it was really good how they laid out the sequence of events in the season 1 episode The Neutral Zone, as that episode became the prequel/laid the foundation of the Borg. But you're right; they never finished that story.

BL.

And with all the talk of "infiltrating Starfleet at the highest levels," well, where was the last time we heard that? That TNG episode.

Anyway, just a thought.

 

[bradl]

Apparently, there is a continuity issue coming up.

I don't know the details of it, but friends of mine are followers of Michelle Forbes, and one of her latest posts was a picture of her with Stewart and Frakes, celebrating the character she was asked to play, and that she is getting back into that character.

That character is Ro Laren.

If this indeed holds true, this presents a continuity issue that became clear in TNG and ST: Voyager. If I remember correctly, it was the 2nd to last episode of season 7 of TNG where Ro, who had just been promoted to Lieutenant, left Starfleet to join the Maquis. Since there wasn't any mention of her through the movies or DS9, it's assumed that she is still part of the Maquis, along with Thomas Riker. Fast forward to Voyager. After the Voyager crew established contact with Starfleet (thanks to Barclay), Chakotay and Torres had found out that all of the Maquis had been wiped out, by the Cardassians and the Dominion in the Dominion War, and that the Maquis on the Voyager crew are the last of the Maquis, and decided to let their cause die there, because they didn't consider themselves Maquis anymore.

Well, if all of the Maquis were wiped out, how does Ro supposedly return?

BL.

 

[decafjava]

Well to be fair with a franchise that has been around for as long as Star Trek with so many series and writers it is no surprise that some continuity issues would come up. It's not as bad as continuity in Dr. Who anyway.

 

[JTK Awesome]

Gamma quadrant: Go-to for the best writing about Starfleet's finest ship and crew.

Delta quadrant: Home of the worst writing, the lamest Starfleet vessel, the worst Starfleet crew.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Apparently, there is a continuity issue coming up.

I don't know the details of it, but friends of mine are followers of Michelle Forbes, and one of her latest posts was a picture of her with Stewart and Frakes, celebrating the character she was asked to play, and that she is getting back into that character.

That character is Ro Laren.

If this indeed holds true, this presents a continuity issue that became clear in TNG and ST: Voyager. If I remember correctly, it was the 2nd to last episode of season 7 of TNG where Ro, who had just been promoted to Lieutenant, left Starfleet to join the Maquis. Since there wasn't any mention of her through the movies or DS9, it's assumed that she is still part of the Maquis, along with Thomas Riker. Fast forward to Voyager. After the Voyager crew established contact with Starfleet (thanks to Barclay), Chakotay and Torres had found out that all of the Maquis had been wiped out, by the Cardassians and the Dominion in the Dominion War, and that the Maquis on the Voyager crew are the last of the Maquis, and decided to let their cause die there, because they didn't consider themselves Maquis anymore.

Well, if all of the Maquis were wiped out, how does Ro supposedly return?

BL.

That episode where Ro and LaForge go invisible was one of my favorites as a kid. I liked that actor. Glad to see her coming back!

 

[MacDaddyPanda]

Apparently, there is a continuity issue coming up.

I don't know the details of it, but friends of mine are followers of Michelle Forbes, and one of her latest posts was a picture of her with Stewart and Frakes, celebrating the character she was asked to play, and that she is getting back into that character.

That character is Ro Laren.

If this indeed holds true, this presents a continuity issue that became clear in TNG and ST: Voyager. If I remember correctly, it was the 2nd to last episode of season 7 of TNG where Ro, who had just been promoted to Lieutenant, left Starfleet to join the Maquis. Since there wasn't any mention of her through the movies or DS9, it's assumed that she is still part of the Maquis, along with Thomas Riker. Fast forward to Voyager. After the Voyager crew established contact with Starfleet (thanks to Barclay), Chakotay and Torres had found out that all of the Maquis had been wiped out, by the Cardassians and the Dominion in the Dominion War, and that the Maquis on the Voyager crew are the last of the Maquis, and decided to let their cause die there, because they didn't consider themselves Maquis anymore.

Well, if all of the Maquis were wiped out, how does Ro supposedly return?

BL.

Doesn't that just imply the Marquis movement died. Not the people. Spoiler alert. They explain it in the episode. It's kinda of a yada yada explanation. lol. But it works. I must say this season of Picard is heavily dark thematically. But I'm liking it.

 

[Rafterman]

Apparently, there is a continuity issue coming up.

I don't know the details of it, but friends of mine are followers of Michelle Forbes, and one of her latest posts was a picture of her with Stewart and Frakes, celebrating the character she was asked to play, and that she is getting back into that character.

That character is Ro Laren.

If this indeed holds true, this presents a continuity issue that became clear in TNG and ST: Voyager. If I remember correctly, it was the 2nd to last episode of season 7 of TNG where Ro, who had just been promoted to Lieutenant, left Starfleet to join the Maquis. Since there wasn't any mention of her through the movies or DS9, it's assumed that she is still part of the Maquis, along with Thomas Riker. Fast forward to Voyager. After the Voyager crew established contact with Starfleet (thanks to Barclay), Chakotay and Torres had found out that all of the Maquis had been wiped out, by the Cardassians and the Dominion in the Dominion War, and that the Maquis on the Voyager crew are the last of the Maquis, and decided to let their cause die there, because they didn't consider themselves Maquis anymore.

Well, if all of the Maquis were wiped out, how does Ro supposedly return?

BL.

There is no way you wipe out every single last person. The organization may have been destroyed, but not all the people. I think you are reading too much into it.