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Definitely marked up, if MSRP is $399. They are basing it on demand and that there are none in stock anywhere.. in short, they're flipping.

If this were based on something already discontinued, then I could see that price. For example, Lego Voltron, NIB, is pushing $700 on eBay. Retail for it was $299.

BL.
$599 is the price on Legos site. That would not be considered a markup.

All these sets are massively overpriced.

There is a $1K DeathStar cut away: https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/death-star-75419

An $849 Falcon: https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/millennium-falcon-75192

Venator Cruiser $649: https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/venator-class-republic-attack-cruiser-75367

They are charging what the market will bear, and with Star Wars, it will bear a lot.

Hogwarts Castle for $469: https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hogwarts-castle-71043
 
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Back to Trek.

Weekend TOS watch:

Last watch Metamorphosis S2E09

Episodes skipped because too good or recently watched:

Journey to Babel (Top 10)
Friday's Child (G+, Klingon antagonist, fun with projectile and melee weapons)
The Deadly Years (G, great escape from Romulans, saw recently)
Obsession (VG, Kirk backstory, saw recently)
Wolf In the Fold (Good, Scotty development)
Trouble with Tribbles (Top 10)
A Piece of the Action (Top 10)

Watched:

The Gamesters of Triskelion S2E16 (Nice B-plot with Spock in command trying to find them)
The Immunity Syndrome S2E18 (Actually a G+ episode. Great Spock parts, Spock-McCoy rivalry)

Note, in S1, E16 The Galileo Seven, the shuttle was destroyed.
However, it also was the shuttle Spock took out to get readings on the space amoeba in The Immunity Syndrome.
 
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$599 is the price on Legos site.

The Enterprise? It's $399 on Lego's site:
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That is opposed the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft, which is also carrying the Enterprise. It is $229.

BL.
 
Perhaps nobody builds scale models anymore, but for 10% the cost of the Lego Enterprise D set you can buy a 1:1400 scale Enterprise D model kit from AMT. Glue and paint not included...
 
I was responding with the Razor Crest's price, since he quoted me.

Looking at it again, I think he thought my 599 was quoting resale of Enterprise.

Ahh.. that would make more sense. If the Enterprise were $599, then we walked away from the Lego store with a killer deal, especially since we got it with the Shuttle craft and Ro!

BL.
 
These Lego sets are targeted at folks who want to decorate, not those who just wan to build. I have collected hundreds of thousands of random Lego blocks that I use just to create random 💩. It's infinitely more fun just building random stuff rather than following instructions for specific set.

Some creative type probably turned the Enterprise-D set into a giant robot or something.😎 I've seen someone turn a Legos flower set into a plant monster.
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I've just finished watching DS9. In an age of streaming the multi-part episodes and longer story arcs work brilliantly.

I've not seen all of Enterprise.

I know TOS, TNG and Voyager quite well.

...

As to the quality of the writing, my observation is that it often took the writers 3 seasons to work out what really worked for the show, the cast and the characters.

For DS9 it was the introduction of the Defiant and the Dominion and the more frequent use of longer multi-episode story arcs.

For Voyager it was the introduction of 7 of 9 that transformed the show and marked a change in how they approached the gamma quadrant.

For TNG it was the Series ending cliff hanger where Picard became Locutus of Borg. From that point forwards they had a settled cast (including Gates McFadden as the doctor) and the characters and relationships were given more depth.

...

On a separate but related note, watching these shows now, it is also clear other factors affected the scripts that aren't often acknowledged. That includes the demands of the actors (to get them to stay in the show) and attempts to maintain popularity.

In the later series of each iteration, you will see episodes that focus on particular characters. For example, episodes that focused on Data, or Worf, 7 of 9, Paris, Miles O'Brian, the doctor and the captain (of the relevant Star Trek iteration). This is very often actor service. These episodes were often weak ones, especially if the character / actor didn't work for you.

For the cast of TNG, they were all directing episodes by the end. Some of them clearly enjoyed it more than others and did more. TNG cast members also directed several episodes of different iterations of Star Trek.

Each show also had recurring episodes, whereby the same story would repeat and (sometimes develop). Every season of TNG had a borg episode, a Kingon culture/Empire episode, a Q episode. Most had a time-travel episode

If you have to plan 24 episodes for a season having these sorts of episodes give the series a structure. 6 or 7 character episodes, 4 or 5 recurring villains or themes (eg time-travel), then you only need to write 10 or so "alien / space anomaly of the week" shows (each of which has to be completely different from the last one, but also exactly the same as all the others).

This writing formula was repeated for all series. As mentioned above, DS9 had the alternate universe episodes in every season, there was also one episode per season about the worm-hole aliens/prophets.

...

For those who are interested, there is also a documentary series called "the Centre Seat", which deals with the development of the various shows and movies, the writing challenges, the inconsistent contribution of Gene Roddenberry and the demands of the networks.

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For those who are interested, there is also a documentary series called "the Centre Seat", which deals with the development of the various shows and movies, the writing challenges, the inconsistent contribution of Gene Roddenberry and the demands of the networks.

I also recommend "Chaos on the Bridge" which shows just how much a disaster TNG's first season was behind the scenes.
 
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I also recommend "Chaos on the Bridge" which shows just how much a disaster TNG's first season was behind the scenes.
When you look at what it takes to run one of these shows, it seems almost miraculous that any of them end up getting made at all. A lot has to come together, on a budget, on a schedule, and it has to make money.
 
In the later series of each iteration, you will see episodes that focus on particular characters. For example, episodes that focused on Data, or Worf, 7 of 9, Paris, Miles O'Brian, the doctor and the captain (of the relevant Star Trek iteration). This is very often actor service. These episodes were often weak ones, especially if the character / actor didn't work for you.
On DS9, I found the character focused episodes better than the regular ones, with the exception of the Ezri Dax one, Prodigal Daughter. That one was awful.🤮 The Sisko (In the Pale Moonlight) and O'Brien (Honor Among Thieves) where among the best DS9 episodes.

I loved every Garak focused or Garak heavy episode. He's my all time favorite Trek character. Everyone's favorite, Mr Spock is my #2.🖖
 
On DS9, I found the character focused episodes better than the regular ones, with the exception of the Ezri Dax one, Prodigal Daughter. That one was awful.🤮 The Sisko (In the Pale Moonlight) and O'Brien (Honor Among Thieves) where among the best DS9 episodes.

I loved every Garak focused or Garak heavy episode. He's my all time favorite Trek character. Everyone's favorite, Mr Spock is my #2.🖖
I really enjoyed him, especially in the earlier seasons.

My two favourite quotes for Garak, are when he and Worf are battling invaders of DS9 and Worf remarks "You fight well for a tailor!"

The other is when he is in a James Bond themed holodeck program with Julian Bashir and there are glamorous women, expensive hotels and money to burn and Garak remarks "I joined the wrong intelligence service".

Once the focus switched to the Dominion as the principal series villain, I think he was harder to write into the stories. He was used far too little in the later episodes and not very well.
 
I've just finished watching DS9. In an age of streaming the multi-part episodes and longer story arcs work brilliantly.

I've not seen all of Enterprise.

I know TOS, TNG and Voyager quite well.

...

As to the quality of the writing, my observation is that it often took the writers 3 seasons to work out what really worked for the show, the cast and the characters.

For DS9 it was the introduction of the Defiant and the Dominion and the more frequent use of longer multi-episode story arcs.

For Voyager it was the introduction of 7 of 9 that transformed the show and marked a change in how they approached the gamma quadrant.

For TNG it was the Series ending cliff hanger where Picard became Locutus of Borg. From that point forwards they had a settled cast (including Gates McFadden as the doctor) and the characters and relationships were given more depth.

...

On a separate but related note, watching these shows now, it is also clear other factors affected the scripts that aren't often acknowledged. That includes the demands of the actors (to get them to stay in the show) and attempts to maintain popularity.

In the later series of each iteration, you will see episodes that focus on particular characters. For example, episodes that focused on Data, or Worf, 7 of 9, Paris, Miles O'Brian, the doctor and the captain (of the relevant Star Trek iteration). This is very often actor service. These episodes were often weak ones, especially if the character / actor didn't work for you.

For the cast of TNG, they were all directing episodes by the end. Some of them clearly enjoyed it more than others and did more. TNG cast members also directed several episodes of different iterations of Star Trek.

Each show also had recurring episodes, whereby the same story would repeat and (sometimes develop). Every season of TNG had a borg episode, a Kingon culture/Empire episode, a Q episode. Most had a time-travel episode

If you have to plan 24 episodes for a season having these sorts of episodes give the series a structure. 6 or 7 character episodes, 4 or 5 recurring villains or themes (eg time-travel), then you only need to write 10 or so "alien / space anomaly of the week" shows (each of which has to be completely different from the last one, but also exactly the same as all the others).

This writing formula was repeated for all series. As mentioned above, DS9 had the alternate universe episodes in every season, there was also one episode per season about the worm-hole aliens/prophets.

...

For those who are interested, there is also a documentary series called "the Centre Seat", which deals with the development of the various shows and movies, the writing challenges, the inconsistent contribution of Gene Roddenberry and the demands of the networks.

(edited to correct typos)

If I remember right, it was during one of the conventions where Wheaton stated that Spiner said if it weren't for Whoopie joining the cast, none of those seasons, DS9, or VOY would have been possible. That caused Roddenberry to have to focus more on character development than anything, since Guinan was the last character Roddenberry created. The entire series would have been cancelled after season 1. Additionally, if you notice, nearly every one those long arcs in TNG featured Whoopie: Best of Both Worlds, Time's Arrow, Descent, Yesterday's Enterprise, All Good Things.. all had Whoopie. If I remember right, the only 3 that didn't were Encounter at Farpoint, Chain of Command and The Gambit.

Wait.. there may have been a 4th that she wasn't involved in.. The 2-parter where Worf found the Klingons and Romulans living together. Forgot the name of that episode.

On DS9, I found the character focused episodes better than the regular ones, with the exception of the Ezri Dax one, Prodigal Daughter. That one was awful.🤮 The Sisko (In the Pale Moonlight) and O'Brien (Honor Among Thieves) where among the best DS9 episodes.

I loved every Garak focused or Garak heavy episode. He's my all time favorite Trek character. Everyone's favorite, Mr Spock is my #2.🖖

I can't remember the name of the episode, but in all honesty, the two best episodes (at least IMHO) for character development were the episode of DS9 where Nog gave his Worthwhile speech. You quite literally saw Nog, in that one scene, coming into the scene leaning over like a conniving Ferengi, to standing up straight like an actual officer. The way Sisko hit him with every objection and Nog knocking them all down was phenomenal.

Then finally, Pathfinder. Dwight Schultz always played Barclay as that stuttering introvert, despite the fact that he was the complete opposite on The A-Team. But for him to take how highly strung and socially paranoid he was to standing up for his beliefs, disobeying orders, and actually being right, resulting in communication with Voyager shows how far he had grown. I wish they had a part for him, Kira, and an update on the O'Briens in Picard.

BL.
 
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If I remember right, it was during one of the conventions where Wheaton stated that Spiner said if it weren't for Whoopie joining the cast, none of those seasons, DS9, or VOY would have been possible.

I wouldn't go quite that far, but it is true that Guinan was a hit character from the start, and she came in at a time when the future of the series was shaky.

I just want to know more about her anti-Q Kung Fu moves that were implied, but never actually depicted or explained....the writers dodged a bullet there.
 
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I wouldn't go quite that far, but it is true that Guinan was a hit character from the start, and she came in at a time when the future of the series was shaky.

I just want to know more about her anti-Q Kung Fu moves that were implied, but never actually depicted or explained....the writers dodged a bullet there.

I'll have to find the clip of Wheaton explaining it.. It was the same convention where LeVar joked about something with the Dukes of Hazzard, as John Schneider was also at that convention... while forgetting that Frakes was also in the Dukes of Hazzard, as everyone forgot that he was the one that married Daisy Duke.

It was the same convention where a fan had to define what it was to Riker. He explained that it was a verb, meaning to successfully or unsuccessfully attempt to mate with the female species of the alien race they had just met.

BL.
 
I was a big fan of the show, but don't remember that at all.

If I remember correctly, it was the series finale when that happened. I was a fan of the show until Knight Rider premiered, and they were both on in the same Friday night timeslot. I remember Enos being completely destroyed by that.

Now that I think about it, it may have been one of Frakes' first major roles, as it was shot before he did North and South.

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It’s strange, this is a hit for them, yet they are ending it and instead are trying to shove the academy show down our throats. Kinda like how they ended lower decks, a show that shouldn’t cost much and could have gone on a few more season easily.

It’s like studios don’t understand the value of extending a popular show. TNG had seven seasons, Deep space 9 had seven seasons and around 170+ episodes each. Binge watching will take a while assuming an episode a day, so the studio has one hooked.
 
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It’s like studios don’t understand the value of extending a popular show. TNG had seven seasons, Deep space 9 had seven seasons and around 170+ episodes each. Binge watching will take a while assuming an episode a day, so the studio has one hooked.
It seems the economics and business model for TV shows has changed. For streaming services, it seems to be ~10 eps a season instead of the 22 to 26 eps per season for TNG.

Now w/the way these new Trek spinoffs are airing, funding has to come from somewhere else now (e.g. paid for by streaming subscriptions and other licensing) instead of the traditional ad model. It doesn't seem like the major US networks (e.g. ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox) have had the appetite for much in the way of sci-fi on prime time TV. Look how long it's been since any of those have lasted very long.

I watched https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1307824/?ref_=ttep_ov_bk (along w/the the original mini-series, V: The Final Battle and the series that came after ages ago). That re-imagined version lasted only 2 seasons. Looks like S1 was 12 eps and S2 was 10 eps. It aired on ABC in the US. TOS and original minis were NBC.
 
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US networks (e.g. ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox) have had the appetite for much in the way of sci-fi on prime time TV
I don't think its lack of appetite, the studios who own the networks are trying to drive people to their streaming services, so most new and expensive content is behind a paywall.

Tbh, I think this largely hurts new content, I don't subscribe to Paramount +, so I miss out on the new star trek content, I think many people are tired of needing to subscribe to so many services that it not only rivals what cable used to cost (before streaming), but exceeding it. The lack of growth across many of the streaming services seems to back up people's fatigue in paying for so many streaming services.
 
Economics drive the networks and the content that is produced, and the models have changed.

One only needs to look at what Zaslav has done with Warner and HBO, and the damage to their reputations to see what happens when the art is subsidiary to the business.

The uncertainty and turmoil surrounding Viacom/CBS/Paramount before its sale had an effect on its budgets and spending, and unless new owner Ellison is a sci-fi fan, I wouldn't expect it to get better now that the picture is a little less blurry.
 
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The uncertainty and turmoil surrounding Viacom/CBS/Paramount before its sale had an effect on its budgets and spending, and unless new owner Ellison is a sci-fi fan, I wouldn't expect it to get better now that the picture is a little less blurry.

SkyDance CEO David Ellison is a big fan of Star Trek and SkyDance was a major investor in the two most recent Kelvinverse films, so chances are good that funding for the franchise will continue and perhaps even increase.
 
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