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Starcraft II Beta Has Begun!

Ok just an update.

I was getting an orange error message every time I tried to connect to bnet for the past two days. This evening I trashed the StarCraft II Beta folder, and then redownloaded and run/updated the beta from my bnet account. After reinstalling (took a while!), I could connect to bnet perfectly. I only reinstalled, didn't change anything else (didn't even trash the prefs or anything).

So any OSX user having issues, try that.

Only problem now is I'm too scared to play multiplayer coz I'm a fraidy cat. :eek:

Oh also re performance, runs the same or better for me than phase 1. I'm running it on High settings on a 27" i7 iMac. Re "better", seems to be generating less heat than in phase 1 (though I am using smbfancontrol so I can't really be sure it's not that).
 
vong said:
^ it was like that yesterday night but SC2 beta phase 2 is running fine atm.

the only problem i have is on my 13" mbp, the letters/numbers are a little bit blurry. and i lag now in sc2 wth!!1 i never lagged when it was in phase 1, but in phase 2 i seem to lag -_-. anyone else lagging too?
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I assume you're on the 320m? Can you tell me how that runs the beta within OSX or are you bootcamping? Settings wise etc. If anything I would like to use at least shaders on medium since that makes a big difference in looks, and textures. But yeah thoughts? 4v4 mid game slowdown?
 
aznguyen316 said:
I assume you're on the 320m? Can you tell me how that runs the beta within OSX or are you bootcamping? Settings wise etc. If anything I would like to use at least shaders on medium since that makes a big difference in looks, and textures. But yeah thoughts? 4v4 mid game slowdown?
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im using OSX hah. and ill take SS of settings for you. during the first phase of beta, i've been able to play SC2 fine (melee games) but some UMS games that has a LOT OF things going on would lag me. 4v4.. i would guess its the same as UMS if you let the game drag on too long (ie 100 supply worth of units from each player). but right now, in phase 2 i think blizzard F'd up. during the beginning of the game, i get lag (drop screen for other players) for like a few secs then it goes away. it happened at least 5 out of 6 times so far. only happens once but a game but it gets kind of annoying. i've been playing a lot of 2v2's. been able to play just fine, besides from that lag i get in the beginning of each game.

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my settings w/ 320M
 
MBHockey said:
Getting an early stalker has been a staple of PvT since Starcraft 1 (deny scout, shoot over Terran wall) so I don't really get why people have such a hard time against reapers.

Mass marines/ghosts is harder especially with a few marauders thrown in there. Mass zealot with lots of sentries has been working for me. Just don't cluster your units up!
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Standard timed reapers are easy enough but turbo reapers are absolutely impossible. If 2 reapers get out before a stalker it's GG. They will add 3 racks and transition into mass marines. Even if you manage to push the rush you can't do anything effective. You can't fast tech to void rays to punish the cheese, you can't macro hard since your economy has been raped and Terran is more than capable on 1 base for Bio builds.

Standard build for Tos is
9 pylon
12 Gate
13 Gas
16 Pylon
18 Cyber

The turbo reapers will show up around 15 or 16 supply. That's even before your Cyber gets started.

Pressure build is
10 Pylon
10 Gate
12 Gate
16 Pylon
18 Gas
2x Cyber

This one gets outright murdered

Fast Stalker build is

9 Pylon
11 Gate
13 Gas
15 Cyber

If you do this build however you start stock piling Chrono boost (wasteful) AND your economy will be terrible. You will NEED to fast expand and deny Terran their expo to break even mid game, or some major damage to put you on even footing. And keep in mind this build is exceptionally BS in Desert Oasis. The rush distance for Reaper is comparable to most small/medium 1v1 maps, yet the scout distance is double that. The build is pure imba on that map.



Also, what are you talking about? I've never once seen a good Protoss player cut probes to get out a fast Dragoon. They cut Zelots but there's no way you would want to cut probes, especially in PvT. ESPECIALLY to deny scouts as early as 15 supply. That's way before the build starts branching. Only advantage they would get is to see how early you got your gas. And see if you early expoed (or planning to)
 
Vong, thank you for that ss. I played phase 1 on my M11x and yeah UMS games would lag to hell especially like marine D and tons of things on screen. Those settings I can live with, probably even less if I needed. I expect performance can only go up with Blizzard and Apple optimizing things.
 
Requirements for StarCraft 2

What are the requirements for the game. Would a Macbook with the x3100 with 4gig of ram work? My iMac ati 256k card (forgot what it is, not at home).

Low settings are fine with me as long it's playable. :D

Hugh
 
I've been playing the bata again since the re-opened it. Man I suck at it, but it's still fun.

I've had no problems with it with my 20" 2.4 iMac. I've left all the setting on the default from the load.
 
^ same. im beginning to understand what to build now. if i play vs terran i get stalkers ASAP (incase of reaper rush, so annoying) if anything else, i get cannons to D and zlots to block off my little walk way that i make. then i go for voidrays. boy they rape when fully charged..
 
Meever said:
Standard timed reapers are easy enough but turbo reapers are absolutely impossible. If 2 reapers get out before a stalker it's GG. They will add 3 racks and transition into mass marines. Even if you manage to push the rush you can't do anything effective. You can't fast tech to void rays to punish the cheese, you can't macro hard since your economy has been raped and Terran is more than capable on 1 base for Bio builds.
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What are you talking about? You don't have to cut anything to get a stalker as your first unit. One stalker will take care of any early reaper. If your opponent is going 2 rax reaper (which is really the only conceivable way a Terran could get 2 reapers before the P gets a stalker in even the most standard of PvT openings) you should have known that from your scouting and adjusted accordingly.

Also, what are you talking about? I've never once seen a good Protoss player cut probes to get out a fast Dragoon. They cut Zelots but there's no way you would want to cut probes, especially in PvT. ESPECIALLY to deny scouts as early as 15 supply. That's way before the build starts branching. Only advantage they would get is to see how early you got your gas. And see if you early expoed (or planning to)
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I never said anything about cutting probes...i meant deny scout from roaming around your base (not at ramp -- you can't get a stalker that fast -- but a zealot would be useless in chasing around an SCV in your base). I've been playing protoss since 1998 in SC and BW, and the opening is pretty much the same in SC2 except now you have chrono boost. It doesn't require cutting probes, but it does require that you don't make zealots as they are a useless first unit against Terran anyway. I wouldn't call that 'cutting' zealots (it's not like you MUST make zealots) so much as choosing a better tier 1 counter unit in the stalker.

PS thanks for the day9 daily recommendation in the other thread. That guy cracks me up :)
 
I have yet to see a stalker come out fast enough to deal with an 8 barrack reaper rush. of course there are still other ways to deal with the reaper
 
fuzzielitlpanda said:
I have yet to see a stalker come out fast enough to deal with an 8 barrack reaper rush. of course there are still other ways to deal with the reaper
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8 barrack reaper is very, very early and something you should notice when you scout. My comments above pertained to a 'normal' terran build for reapers (not super early, not proxied, etc..) Just scout early and scout often and you won't have to worry about executing a certain build order; just read the situation and respond accordingly. If i scout a terran going 8 rax, then early gas into tech lab I will obviously have to cut something (probes) to get an early stalker.
 
Starcraft II

Starcraft 2 has entered Beta Phase 2 as of last week! The other night they released the Galaxy Editor for Mac users! I've been gaming a lot lately, and have pre-ordered the collectors edition! July 27th is when it comes out! GET IT! My online username for US is RedMarine.
 
if you wanna buy digitally, you can download the game files now! on the new b.net, just can't officially activate and install it til the 27th
 
http://blip.tv/file/3849937

Any SC player probably knows of Day[9], but if you don't definitely check out his daily videos. He analyzes professional level games and even answers viewers questions and is a professional player himself. Definitely one of the best SC players ever, hes fun to watch, and very informative. :)[/QUOTE]


Man I did not know this guy, but he really is awsome! I watched a lot of replays recently for guys like HDStarcraft or husky, but the comments are far away for the information day9 gives. It is amazing how far he thinks and how well he know tactics.

I have never played Starcraft in my life but I watched so many replays I think I know the game already lol.
 
Yes, replays are the KEY to getting better and also guides. Watching the better players like WhiteRa and others is defiantly good practice. Also blizzard has set up a new fan site for Starcraft 2, you guys should check it out.
 
nelsencaleb said:
Yes, replays are the KEY to getting better and also guides. Watching the better players like WhiteRa and others is defiantly good practice. Also blizzard has set up a new fan site for Starcraft 2, you guys should check it out.
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I agree with you on the replays! I've notice I've been getting better by watching the matches that I lose. I still suck, but just a little less now... lol
 
sportster said:
I agree with you on the replays! I've notice I've been getting better by watching the matches that I lose. I still suck, but just a little less now... lol
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I'm glad you agree, have you checked out Shokz Guide? I have a link in my signature. There are TONS of information available and more to come soon if you'd like!
 
i also watch HD and Husky's commentary once in awhile when i have time. they normally give out good stuff, also how other players play in their videos :D
 
hey guys, I've got a noob question here. What is the meaning of '6 rax reaper' or '8 barrack reaper'?
 
^ I don't play terran but I believe the numbers mean build order.. so at 6 population/resources build a rax = barracks and then reaper? or 8' means at 8 pop/resources build a barracks and reaper.
 
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