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It appears to keep the previous version of Windows for a month so you can roll back as well.
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You can roll back?!? It was such a nightmare with the tech preview, you had to do a complete reinstall of Win8. Worse for me I had win8 upgrade CDs from win7, so I had to install win7 twice (upgrade trick from way back when) then upgrade to win8 then upgrade to win8.1. I have zero desire to install win10, but it's nice to know you can roll back easily if I do change my mind.
Nice! I remember a previous version of Windows doing that at one time as well, Can't remember what version it was back then.
Mine appeared to be 3.2. The larger size may be the result of getting both the 32bit and 64bit updates. I read somewhere that can happen. For my SP3, that wasn't a problem however.
Yeah look under the recovery section. It says that you can roll back for like a month, then the option goes away. When I get home I can post a picture...
Updated my SP3 yesterday; went incredibly smoothly. So far the good outweighs the bad. There are some things I can see missing from 8.1, but the changes have, for the most part, made the response more predictable even if they aren't quite as convenient once you got used to the gestures in 8.1. Windows 10 is so clearly the way of the future for Microsoft that even if there are some things I don't like, I feel as I might as well get used to it now. No point in complaining too much about the changes - if you don't like something - give feedback. Microsoft does seem to at least listen if enough people say something.
No point in complaining excessively though like the guy in the Ars Technica review's comments who is still pissed because he thinks XP was the best OS ever.
No point in complaining excessively though like the guy in the Ars Technica review's comments who is still pissed because he thinks XP was the best OS ever.
I'm taking Microsoft at their word that placeholders will be back. This really is a soft launch, the real launch of threshold is in October. Not understanding the logic in releasing what in essence is just another beta, lots of pissed off people. Releasing edge without extension support is baffling.
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Yeah, it seems kind of rushed. I have no use for it, they axed way too many useful touch features. I don't think adding some eye candy and semi useless desktop functions really makes for a new OS. I'll stick with Win8.1 until they fix OneDrive, and even then might think twice about it.
yeah thinking about that, i don't own a desktop Windows 8 machine, just a Surface Pro. other than edge and OneDrive issues, maybe desktop experience is better. I'm running Windows 7 in Parallels on my rMB and have no plans to upgrade.
I'm running Windows 10 Enterprise on my Surface Pro 2 and it runs great. Fast, stable, and I enjoy the new layout and features. Definitely better then 8.1
Problem is what it has always been in Windows.
Backwards compatibility means that they can't actually make these kind of changes easily as some pre windows 8 things you install add stuff to Control Panel. Which is hard to do if it isn't there.
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Yeah, that is true. In other annoyances, my pen has become quite sensitive, I don't even have to tap the screen to get it to register a click. Not sure what that is all about, sigh.
My IT guy at work won't let us even try 10 on our SP3s until the first major patch. So I will have to play with it on my DVP8.
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I installed Win10 on my 11" Asus notebook. I'm not a fan (yet).
The start menu looks goofy with the live tiles in it though the added whitespace to the desktop UI elements is a step in the right direction re:touch.
Charms bar... gone?!
Their decision on OneDrive was a boneheaded one. They really didn't think that one through and don't appear to have been listening to testers early in the process... responding only after the fact... and probably because some Fortune 500 company complained.
It seems like Microsoft over-corrected. They were too aggressive in pushing touch in Win 8, 8.1. Now they've backed off of that with 10.
I actually like that they gave the option for start menu tiles. Some people won't like them, and will remove then, but others will like them and keep them.
Charms bar is inferior to Notification Center in my opinion.
Their decision regarding OneDrive came from a technical perspective. They're trying to make there only be one OneDrive, which means syncing the engines. The consumer one had placeholders and the enterprise one didn't.
Using Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 3 is better to me than 8.1.
That sums it up perfectly, the "overreacted". All the complaining about windows 8 and the desktop was almost completely un warranted, but affected sales to the point where MS completely overreacted and cut a lot of useful tablet features. They could have just added all the desktop stuff and left the tablet functions alone. With MS banking so much on the surface tablets it's utterly confounding why they would have hamstrung them, but then again these are the morons who released windows RT.
The main thing with the charms bar for me was the quick volume and brightness sliders, incredibly convenient. Having the windows button available was also nice, instead of having to hunt and peck for the tiny windows button in the bottom corner for tablets which don't have a physical button. Simple solution, put volume and brightness sliders on the notification bar. Swiping in from the left to cycle through programs was incredibly intuitive, man I'll miss that function. No full screen apps? Terrible, an invasion of the desktop when I want to be in tablet mode (yes I know you can full screen, but it doesn't recall and next time you open it's not full screen again). I could go on and on though.
The. OneDrive decision was nonsensical. The most official post I've seen on this is on the MS blog when they mentioned the space the placeholders took. A nonsensical reason because now you have to sync an ENTIRE folder in order to see those files, wasting MUCH MUCH more space than the placeholders. Microsoft wants to push you towards the web app, but I don;'t think they realize how slow and clunky it is, especially compared to simply manipulating files right inside windows explorer. Just an inane decision any way you look at it.
Win10 is a huge downgrade for me on the tablet, without being much of an upgrade on the desktop at all.
It was sync engine reasons. That's why they're coming up with what they say is a better replacement.