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Aquaporin

macrumors 6502a
Jun 27, 2005
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USA
Why is it that every glowing review uses the phrase 'feels nice in the hand'. This makes wonder if this is an astroturf.
 

ChazUK

macrumors 603
Feb 3, 2008
5,393
25
Essex (UK)
Great read Wrathwitch.

To answer your question on women carrying phones, my wife has a Galaxy S III and she keeps hers in a dedicated phone pocket in her handbag. :)

Me? I shove mine in my pocket!
 

Zaft

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2009
4,570
4,049
Brooklyn, NY
Great read Wrathwitch.

To answer your question on women carrying phones, my wife has a Galaxy S III and she keeps hers in a dedicated phone pocket in her handbag. :)

Me? I shove mine in my pocket!

i am seriously tired of people saying "it wont fit in my pocket" lol.
the only phone that would have trouble is the NOTE.
 

0m3ga

macrumors 6502
Mar 1, 2012
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Welcome to the S3 club wrathwitch.

Battery life is a tricky thing on all phones and can be effected by many factors:

If your phone is trying to switch between 3G and HSPA+ for instance, it will drain.
If you use live wallpapers, widgets that constantly wake the phone for internet data (weather widget for example), keeping the screen above 50%, keeping a background app open and running (like Pandora), etc... This is the same for any phone.

Anyway, unless I am on LTE, I will easily get 17+ hours and much more than the iphone. And don't forget, it's very easy to buy another battery and just leave it in your purse as an emergency backup. :D
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
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5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
What is bloody wierd is that I am getting a crap tonne of battery drain from Cell standby when I use the battery guage to see what resources are using power. I am still working on this to see how I can configure it. I am getting a full day out of the phone, but I hear others are doing much better than I (even after going to several sites and learning tips on how to best conserve battery on Android phone).

There is a bug on the SGS3 that incorrectly reports the battery usage for Cell Standby. The bug affects what is reported on the battery usage screen and does not actually cause the battery to drain. Perhaps your phone has that bug.

My issue is that from wake up 04:50a.m(unplug from charger) checked 2 emails, messed with settings til 06:07a.m I went from 100% to 95% (not sure if this is normal but seems a bit excessive.

I have an HTC Desire Z. I have notice that sometimes the battery meter jumps quite a bit from time to time. It may jump a bit after some initial use, but then after some more prolonged use, it doesn't jump as much as the initial use. Not sure exactly the reason for this.

I think that a better indication of battery use is what the meter says after a full day's use rather that a few minutes of use. Do you need to charge your phone part way through the day? What percentage of battery power do you have at the end of the day with your SGS3 compared to an iPhone?

One other thing you may not be aware of is that manufacturers claim that when you first use your new phone, the battery will not last as long as when after you have been using it for a few weeks. On both my HTC and my old Nokia phones, the instruction manual says this. For modern batteries, a brand new one doesn't last as long as one that has been used for a few weeks. I have noticed this personally on both my current HTC phone and my old Nokia phone.

Now part of the reason I think a new phone's battery doesn't last as long as one that has been used for a few weeks is that when I get a new phone, I am using it a lot more than after a month or two. With a new device, I cannot help but tinker with it to get it configured the way I like. Now that I have my phone for a year and a half, I mostly just use it to do every day things which I can do rather quickly. I have no need to change my home screens or try out new apps and widgets every single day like I did when I first got the phone.

For the reasons above, I think a more accurate way to judge battery life is that you need to wait a few weeks and then see how much battery is left at the end of the day and compare what you remember to your old phone. When I first got my Nokia and HTC phones, I did have to charge it often before the day is over. After a few weeks, they generally last throughout the day with juice to spare. The only times I really have to charge it part before the day is over is usuall if I'm using the GPS feature for any significant length of time (45 minutes or more). It is very rare that I would have to charge it before the end of the day at any other time.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy your new phone.
 

nefan65

macrumors 65816
Apr 15, 2009
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Welcome to the S3 club wrathwitch.

Battery life is a tricky thing on all phones and can be effected by many factors:

If your phone is trying to switch between 3G and HSPA+ for instance, it will drain.
If you use live wallpapers, widgets that constantly wake the phone for internet data (weather widget for example), keeping the screen above 50%, keeping a background app open and running (like Pandora), etc... This is the same for any phone.

Anyway, unless I am on LTE, I will easily get 17+ hours and much more than the iphone. And don't forget, it's very easy to buy another battery and just leave it in your purse as an emergency backup. :D

I know I'll get flamed for this, but I HAVE to ask. If you have to turn all that stuff off just to get decent battery life, what's the point of having the phone? Why not just get a bar phone?
 

chambone

macrumors 6502a
Dec 24, 2011
969
25
Netherlands
I know I'll get flamed for this, but I HAVE to ask. If you have to turn all that stuff off just to get decent battery life, what's the point of having the phone? Why not just get a bar phone?

Yeah, well, battery life is a tricky thing on all phones running Android.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
I know I'll get flamed for this, but I HAVE to ask. If you have to turn all that stuff off just to get decent battery life, what's the point of having the phone? Why not just get a bar phone?

Every phone is affected at times. Apple Support recommends many of the same ideas:

"Paying attention to just a few commonsense pointers will pay off with a longer battery lifespan and battery life for your iPhone. The most important thing is to keep your iPhone out of the sun or a hot car (including the glove box). Heat will degrade your battery’s performance the most."
...
Optimize Your iPhone Settings:
  • Minimize use of location services
  • Turn off push notifications
  • Fetch new data less frequently
  • Turn off push mail
  • Auto-check fewer email accounts
  • Turn off Wi-F
  • Turn off Bluetooth
  • Use Airplane Mode in low- or no-coverage areas
  • Adjust brightness
  • Turn off EQ
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
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Screen:

The screen IS awesome. I can see no difference in text or desktop resolution. I was anticipating to see some fuzzy but I see nothing to say that it is in any way less than the retina screen. The real estate of the screen is also amazing. If this was a factor to keep from switching, don't even sweat it.

SIII screen sucks compared to the 4/4S and One X. Produces artificial colors and suffers from greyish whites and poor brightness. SIII is at it's best with blacks and color. Fails in other regards.
 

nefan65

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Apr 15, 2009
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Every phone is affected at times. Apple Support recommends many of the same ideas:

I agree, but the items listed are all "features", or items that are supposed to make the SGIII superior to other phones, Android included. My point is what good are all those features, if they need to be turned off? Example: The SGIII is supposed to have an amazing screen. But if you have to turn down brightness 50%, then what good is it? Same for animated wallpapers...I think they're cool, but if they drain the battery so much, then what's the point?

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Yeah, well, battery life is a tricky thing on all phones running Android.

Seems to be...?
 
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nefan65

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Apr 15, 2009
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This has been beaten to death already, its not 2009... android phones have good battery life now.

Then why are they chatting about it above? Someone stated that the battery life wasn't great on their new SGIII, and the recommendations were to turn things off...

I've also read this on other forums; both on this phone and the Nexus.
 

0m3ga

macrumors 6502
Mar 1, 2012
491
0
SIII screen sucks compared to the 4/4S and One X. Produces artificial colors and suffers from greyish whites and poor brightness. SIII is at it's best with blacks and color. Fails in other regards.

IP4s sucks compared to the S3. To washed out and uses a dull halogen white. iP4s is best when the screen is off, so it can get more than 4 hours of battery life. Fails in other regards.
 

nefan65

macrumors 65816
Apr 15, 2009
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IP4s sucks compared to the S3. To washed out and uses a dull halogen white. iP4s is best when the screen is off, so it can get more than 4 hours of battery life. Fails in other regards.

Having compared the two side/side, it far from "Sucks".

Nice post thought. It shows how credible you are [or not in this case].
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Given that the OP specifically described it as a purse phone, I'm wondering just what exactly you're suggesting to me here.

Womens pants pockets arent near as big as ours so i completely understand why she said that. I always found it funny when i saw a girl with a phone in her small back pocket. Also maybe you have noticed they wear their pants tight. Cant really fit anything in tight pants comfortably.
 

ebolamonkey3

macrumors regular
Apr 9, 2011
131
0
Boston
Cell standby is usually what consumes the most power on a mobile device next to the screen. Wireless on the other hand, consumes much less power.

Try to find out if there are widgets for toggling LTE, 3G, Wifi and Bluetooth for the SGSIII. What I usually do is turn 3G/4G off as long as I have wifi, and Bluetooth is off almost all the time (only when I pair it w/ another bluetooth device, which is almost never), and GPS is on all the time.

I set my weather to update every 2 or 3hrs as opposed to every hour. Email is set to push but you can set it to manual or every 3 hrs (or something like that) to save battery. This way I can make my Evo 3D last a whole day, and that's only got a 1700mAH battery (2100mAH in yours).

Quicker settings is a great app that lets you put all those toggles into one app, and I have it pinned to the first page. But I don't know if it lets you toggle LTE or not, which is the biggest battery drain.
 

0m3ga

macrumors 6502
Mar 1, 2012
491
0
I know I'll get flamed for this, but I HAVE to ask. If you have to turn all that stuff off just to get decent battery life, what's the point of having the phone? Why not just get a bar phone?

You iFaithful really need to take a reading comprehension class. Where did I ever say you had to turns anything off? I simply pointed out things that drain battery on ANY phone.

The iP4s battery already sucks a55, but if you had widgets, LTE and live wallpapers installed, you'd be lucky to see a two hours of up time. I use my phone continuously, especially in the car with Google Nav, Pandora and email/texts running in the background. And I still get 17+ hours. But I don't use live wallpapers or widgets that require constant updates from the web. Care to share if you have ever seen 17+ hours on your iphone (with even moderate use?)
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
SIII screen sucks compared to the 4/4S and One X. Produces artificial colors and suffers from greyish whites and poor brightness. SIII is at it's best with blacks and color. Fails in other regards.

The bluish tint dont bother most people and they dont notice it.
Just because you like to have your screen turned up all the way dont mean the screen sucks on the GS3.
I bet you wouldnt have even noticed if it wasnt mentioned in the other thread.
 

0m3ga

macrumors 6502
Mar 1, 2012
491
0
Having compared the two side/side, it far from "Sucks".

Nice post thought. It shows how credible you are [or not in this case].

I own both. You spent a couple minutes looking at one. I guess we know who is more credible. You can go back to la la land now.
 

SurferMan

macrumors 65816
May 14, 2010
1,267
51
South FL
Congrats... and yeh I'm sure it's a little tight in a girls pocket, my GSII fits in my gf's jeans but it's the smaller version at 4.3" and it's a tight fit , the 4S is even a bit tighter in her pocket as it's thicker since girls jeans in general have much tighter fit and tighter/smaller pockets vs mens. Problem with dudes now, is the new fad is skin tight womans size 0 jeans for guys :D , no wonder they have a hard time getting anything in their pockets lol.

But yeh give it a few days and check on battery stats, and like someone else posted XDA is the best for any info/help/modding etc. I still have to check one out but I'm loving my phone with the custom ICS Rom, blazing fast and slightly better battery life then my regular 4 in use which is impressive. I wish our 4S got at least close to the battery life of my GSII or 4, though the current one is a bit better then the 1st one we had. The phone just came out though so there will pry be some hiccups that will be updated no different then Apple and others fixing software issues, like the cell standby error which is common right now.

I'm not a fan of juice defender really, but some like it. And don't bother with any of the task killers as they suck and can cause more issues, the stock one Samsung uses across their line is very good, but Android in general manages it's memory/ram usage well.

So how long before you root? ;)

Easy to sync and integrate with your Mac products as well, plenty of programs if you search and see what you like (to integrate with itunes etc). Or majority of the time I love being able to mount the phone as a drive and quickly move files and do whatever I want to where I want then unmount the phone, simple and efficient. Find myself using drop box a lot though for business documents now, even on the iphones.
 
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nefan65

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Apr 15, 2009
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I own both. You spent a couple minutes looking at one. I guess we know who is more credible. You can go back to la la land now.

Again, credibility. If someone asks as legitimate question, they're called a name [iFaithful].

I have compared them for more than a minute, and in my opinion [like yours] it's not what you say it is...but you'll spout your opinion as fact.
 
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matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
Don't worry about cell standby drain. It's a reporting error which will hopefully be fixed. The phone is reporting that it's using more battery than it actually is.

Loads of ROM devs at xda-developers have come to this conclusion!
 
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