Phones Switched to SSGS3: an Apple Girl's perspective (hands on).

[lordofthereef]

Haha, I'll never understand why a large number of woman (that I see, anyway) keep their phone in their bra. It looks awkward and uncomfortable... Maybe they want to draw attention to that area, I dunno, but why not in the pocket where it is probably a lot safer and more comfortable?

This is just a guess, but I know I never notice notifications in my pocket when I am walking around (on vibrate). I bet if the phone was vibrating tucked against a breast the alerts are easy to feel.

Again, just a guess. I am neither a woman, nor do I personally know anyone that does this (that I am aware of).

 

[Wrathwitch]

Why is it that every glowing review uses the phrase 'feels nice in the hand'. This makes wonder if this is an astroturf.

It is hard to explain other than nice in the hand. If you have ever felt a polished glass stone, when you run your hands around it and it feels kind of smooth and slick (no fear of dropping it as it is not slippery). Well picture that on a larger scale and that is roughly how it feels.

i am seriously tired of people saying "it wont fit in my pocket" lol.
the only phone that would have trouble is the NOTE.

Sorry, I state the facts as I see em. If I were to put it in my pocket and sit down I am either going to break the screen or have the phone start to slide up and out! I don't wear tight pants either!

There is a bug on the SGS3 that incorrectly reports the battery usage for Cell Standby. The bug affects what is reported on the battery usage screen and does not actually cause the battery to drain. Perhaps your phone has that bug.


I think that a better indication of battery use is what the meter says after a full day's use rather that a few minutes of use. Do you need to charge your phone part way through the day? What percentage of battery power do you have at the end of the day with your SGS3 compared to an iPhone?

One other thing you may not be aware of is that manufacturers claim that when you first use your new phone, the battery will not last as long as when after you have been using it for a few weeks. On both my HTC and my old Nokia phones, the instruction manual says this. For modern batteries, a brand new one doesn't last as long as one that has been used for a few weeks. I have noticed this personally on both my current HTC phone and my old Nokia phone.

Now part of the reason I think a new phone's battery doesn't last as long as one that has been used for a few weeks is that when I get a new phone, I am using it a lot more than after a month or two. With a new device, I cannot help but tinker with it to get it configured the way I like. Now that I have my phone for a year and a half, I mostly just use it to do every day things which I can do rather quickly. I have no need to change my home screens or try out new apps and widgets every single day like I did when I first got the phone.
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Anyway, I hope you enjoy your new phone.

No I haven't had to charge it mid day and you are correct in some aspects, but I am just comparing it to the battery useage I am used to with the iP4

SIII screen sucks compared to the 4/4S and One X. Produces artificial colors and suffers from greyish whites and poor brightness. SIII is at it's best with blacks and color. Fails in other regards.

Wow, you must be some expert screen guy because when I fired it up and started surfing the web and reading articles I was delighted at now nice and clear and large the pages rendered....colours look amazing. To each his or her own I guess....I really notice anything negative about the screen at all.

So how long before you root?

LOL! I think I will learn to dog paddle before I try to swim the English Channel.

The only thing that'll fit in my GF's back pockets is my money and bank cards =/

Haha!! I wish I had a guy like you givin me the money! have to make my own

I went and demoed the SIII with an open and positive mind. It goes beyond the bluish tint. The whites are simply pathetic. Brightness too. These facts are backed up by Anandtech's review. It has nothing to do with keeping brightness at max. When you compare the iPhone and SIII on equal brightness levels with respect to simply levels, the difference is glaring.

Amoled is just an inferior technology when it comes to browsing the web and doing things beyond color games and movies. If it works for some, so be it, but I'm just stating my opinion. I know this view is shared by many. IPS is just a better choice for a smartphone screen IMO. If you disagree and love the SIII, so be it.

Yep I disagree. Either you are some screen pro guy or you went in basing your analysis on what you had previously read and had your mind made up. I found web surfing etc to be a pleasure and the side views, not that I really need them were sufficient for MY use. Oh and yes I agree with you, the brightness levels between iPhone and SSGS3 ARE glaring in the difference, iP4 I can blind myself quite readily, but so far, even during daytime usage, SSGS3 has not been difficult to use or impossible to use due to being too low.

 

[mrsir2009]

This is just a guess, but I know I never notice notifications in my pocket when I am walking around (on vibrate). I bet if the phone was vibrating tucked against a breast the alerts are easy to feel.

Again, just a guess. I am neither a woman, nor do I personally know anyone that does this (that I am aware of).

True, true... I don't feel it vibrate when it's in my pocket either. I jus think it would be kinda embarrassing and self conscious to keep it there... more than if your phone chirped in quiet environment.

 

[ericrwalker]

Maybe you are having trouble understanding what I said.

I never said I had trouble pocketing the iphone with a case on it. It fits fine. As a matter of fact I probably could fit 3 in my pockets.

What I was saying is it's bulky. I can notice it there. It also doesn't just slide in with a case on, but I don't really care about that. Without a case, it's slim enough that I don't notice it in my pocket. That's what I prefer, I hate pocket bulk. As a matter of fact, I don't like bulky keys either. I have a detachable keychain and I leave all my keys in the car when I am out, except my car key. BTW, no I don't wear skinny jean. I am a man.

I am 6'1", 180lbs, 32 waist, male (I feel like I am giving an ASL like the good old days!) and wear exactly as you described. I have the GNex (similar in size to the SGS3) along with an iPhone 4S. I have no problems pocketing either device. In fact, the iPhone 4S often flips sideways in my pocket, especially when I sit and then stand back up, while the GNex never does that. Implying that a person needs to where "ghetto pants" in order to pocket this "iPad sized" device is completely over the top. I can see it being a problem in skin tight jeans perhaps, but frankly the iPhone 4/S would be uncomfortable as well here.

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And also as night follows day, you make this same post in every thread that mentions Android. I recommend you write up a good post and save it somewhere to copy and paste. It will save you lots time. Seriously, it will.

 

[blairh]

Yep I disagree. Either you are some screen pro guy or you went in basing your analysis on what you had previously read and had your mind made up. I found web surfing etc to be a pleasure and the side views, not that I really need them were sufficient for MY use. Oh and yes I agree with you, the brightness levels between iPhone and SSGS3 ARE glaring in the difference, iP4 I can blind myself quite readily, but so far, even during daytime usage, SSGS3 has not been difficult to use or impossible to use due to being too low.

If it works for you, that's cool, but I'm just stating what I've personally experienced and my impressions. I've demoed pretty much all the big release Android devices in the past 6 months. I like ICS and have been very curious about potentially jumping ship. And yet I find all these Amoled screens to be a serious step down from my iPhone's IPS display. The One X was the first screen that not only rivaled my iPhone but actually topped it. No surprise, it's an IPS screen too.

Like I said, if you like your SIII screen, awesome. But I am just one of many who prefer an IPS screen.

 

[lordofthereef]

Maybe you are having trouble understanding what I said.

Nope no trouble. I was responding to the following statement specifically:

Exactly I don't carry a purse, and I don't wear ghetto pants with pockets big enough to fit an iPad in. I wear regular jeans and khakis

Which was a direct response to someone saying the phone doesn't fit in her pants pocket. Perhaps what you were thinking isn't what you typed, or at least in the wrong context? I tend do that some times, for sure.

Who really wears pants large enough to fit an iPad in? I have never seen anyone. Maybe I am not in the right (or wrong) neighborhood.

PS made the skinny jeans comment as an "in general" comment, not something against you. Apologies if it came off that way.

 

[ericrwalker]

LOL no problem, and feel free to make fun of anyone who wears skinny jeans. Well I am firm on that fact that I don't want it bigger, mainly because of the feel in the pocket. Though I would still buy an iPhone probably no matter the size, because I am a huge iOS fan.

Nope no trouble. I was responding to the following statement specifically:

Which was a direct response to someone saying the phone doesn't fit in her pants pocket. Perhaps what you were thinking isn't what you typed, or at least in the wrong context? I tend do that some times, for sure.

Who really wears pants large enough to fit an iPad in? I have never seen anyone. Maybe I am not in the right (or wrong) neighborhood.

PS made the skinny jeans comment as an "in general" comment, not something against you. Apologies if it came off that way.

 

[cynics]

I went and demoed the SIII with an open and positive mind. It goes beyond the bluish tint. The whites are simply pathetic. Brightness too. These facts are backed up by Anandtech's review. It has nothing to do with keeping brightness at max. When you compare the iPhone and SIII on equal brightness levels with respect to simply levels, the difference is glaring.

Amoled is just an inferior technology when it comes to browsing the web and doing things beyond color games and movies. If it works for some, so be it, but I'm just stating my opinion. I know this view is shared by many. IPS is just a better choice for a smartphone screen IMO. If you disagree and love the SIII, so be it.

I wouldn't say its inferior tech just cause you don't like it. Ask yourself this, why does Samsung make Retina displays but use a more expensive amoled display in their devices?

Its a less power hungry technology, so if you look at from that perspective then its superior for browsing the web and things beyond games and movies. Its a real give and take IMO. Besides if you feel its over saturated then go into the settings and adjust it.

Personally I only notice difference if I lay the two phones side by side. Real world they both look great to me since I never have them side by side...

 

[ixodes]

This lull in Apple innovation is causing a lot of people here to take the Android plunge.

I gotta say that it's kind of embarrassing that there's "men" here who claim that the iPhone is too big and meanwhile, we've got women buying 4.8" Android phones and not complaining about them at all.

Wrathwitch, I did the same thing and I'm having zero regrets as well. Android isn't perfect but it's farther along in the direction that mobile OSes need to go.

Enjoy your device!

I agree completely. Apple can afford to rest on their laurels (which is what they are doing) and collect a massive amount of cash as they sell what is essentially a warmed over iP4, with the relatively gimmicky Siri.

While voice commands may or may not have a place in the future as they improve the software and work out the bugs, remains an unknown.

Yes it draws a lot of attention, but respectfully, Apple has a very young, easily influenced, easily impressed crowd of buyers. Voice commands as a way to interact with a computer have been around in mass production and high volume since Mercedes Benz refined theirs in the year 2000. I know, I had one.

It was possible to command the phone / computer / navigation / monitoring system by voice, to do every bit as much in terms of functions ... and more.. than Siri.

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT bashing Siri, simply sharing my thoughts, experiences, and all with it as implemented on my iPhone 4S.

Not to mention I'm _not_ comparing it to my present 2012 Mercedes S class with full telematics. That car's level of automation is stunning.

Whether it be a new top of the line MBZ or BMW, Jag or Aston Martin as just a very few examples of luxury class cars with fully functional command systems, Siri is relatively unimpressive.

I just took delivery of my new AT&T Galaxy S III ahead of it's public release. Comparing it to the domestic market version I've had for several weeks is quite interesting. The difference in processors in unintelligible.

It's a very nice smartphone that performs in an exemplary manor. Far more sophisticated and advanced than the present iPhone.

I _know_ Apple can out do this phone .... yet the question is "will they?"

 

[blairh]

I wouldn't say its inferior tech just cause you don't like it. Ask yourself this, why does Samsung make Retina displays but use a more expensive amoled display in their devices?

Its a less power hungry technology, so if you look at from that perspective then its superior for browsing the web and things beyond games and movies. Its a real give and take IMO. Besides if you feel its over saturated then go into the settings and adjust it.

Personally I only notice difference if I lay the two phones side by side. Real world they both look great to me since I never have them side by side...

It goes beyond me 'not liking it'. I really think IPS is a superior screen technology for smartphones. I can list the reasons why, but at the end of the day it is my opinion only. However like I said before, just from reading comments, reviews, it appears most people concede that the One X screen is superior, and that uses an LCD 2.

With respect to your claim that Samsung uses a more expensive panel in their devices, that appears to be entirely untrue.

"Economically, the use of AMOLEDs is more feasible for Apple’s iPhone line than for the iPad, and in fact may be slightly more affordable. According to Samsung, an LTPS AMOLED screen for its Galaxy S series costs $1.01 per cm2. A LTPS LCD used in an iPhone costs $1.02 per square cm2."

Ah, the battery life argument I keep hearing. Well I have two counters to that. One, battery life has never been an issue with me in my 4 years of owning an iPhone. In fact I find in my normal use with brightness at max that I rarely hit 50% by the time I get home unless I'm doing something especially taxing for long periods of time. (Like waiting in the airport for a flight and browsing the web for a few hours.) So I can't say I really need a device with more battery life. (Though of course I do welcome it.)

Second, and more importantly, this claim that the SIII has substantially better battery life compared to say the 4S appears to be completely untrue. If anything, from all the reviews I've read, the SIII appears to be just about on par with the 4S. Furthermore the 4S appears to still beat it in things like browsing over wi-fi.

I did adjust the SIII in settings using the different modes and it did little to match the natural and accurate colors of an IPS display.

Like I've said to others, if you like your SIII display, great, but I think IPS is the superior display technology for smartphones. And forget this notion that you need to have one display next to another to see the difference. It's clear to me without doing so, and the difference is only exacerbated when you put the Amoled and IPS displays side by side.

 

[KoukiFC3S]

I wouldn't say its inferior tech just cause you don't like it. Ask yourself this, why does Samsung make Retina displays but use a more expensive amoled display in their devices?

Its a less power hungry technology, so if you look at from that perspective then its superior for browsing the web and things beyond games and movies. Its a real give and take IMO. Besides if you feel its over saturated then go into the settings and adjust it.

Personally I only notice difference if I lay the two phones side by side. Real world they both look great to me since I never have them side by side...

AMOLEDs use a lot more power to display whites. So while web browsing, the LCD will get better battery life.

 

[VulchR]

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And also as night follows day, you make this same post in every thread that mentions Android. I recommend you write up a good post and save it somewhere to copy and paste. It will save you lots time. Seriously, it will.

Excellent idea!

Seriously, though, I'll tell you what I get told when I do raise the Android issue: '(1) if you don't like a post or thread, don't read it; and (2) if you believe a post is trolling alert the mods. Otherwise, live with it.' I suppose this works all ways...

 

[blairh]

AMOLEDs use a lot more power to display whites. So while web browsing, the LCD will get better battery life.

I'm literally listening to the latest episode of The Verge Mobile Show right now and at the 45:00 mark one of the hosts is discussing the SIII on AT&T and says this exact thing.

 

[cynics]

It goes beyond me 'not liking it'. I really think IPS is a superior screen technology for smartphones. I can list the reasons why, but at the end of the day it is my opinion only. However like I said before, just from reading comments, reviews, it appears most people concede that the One X screen is superior, and that uses an LCD 2.

With respect to your claim that Samsung uses a more expensive panel in their devices, that appears to be entirely untrue.

"Economically, the use of AMOLEDs is more feasible for Apple’s iPhone line than for the iPad, and in fact may be slightly more affordable. According to Samsung, an LTPS AMOLED screen for its Galaxy S series costs $1.01 per cm2. A LTPS LCD used in an iPhone costs $1.02 per square cm2."

Ah, the battery life argument I keep hearing. Well I have two counters to that. One, battery life has never been an issue with me in my 4 years of owning an iPhone. In fact I find in my normal use with brightness at max that I rarely hit 50% by the time I get home unless I'm doing something especially taxing for long periods of time. (Like waiting in the airport for a flight and browsing the web for a few hours.) So I can't say I really need a device with more battery life. (Though of course I do welcome it.)

Second, and more importantly, this claim that the SIII has substantially better battery life compared to say the 4S appears to be completely untrue. If anything, from all the reviews I've read, the SIII appears to be just about on par with the 4S. Furthermore the 4S appears to still beat it in things like browsing over wi-fi.

I did adjust the SIII in settings using the different modes and it did little to match the natural and accurate colors of an IPS display.

Like I've said to others, if you like your SIII display, great, but I think IPS is the superior display technology for smartphones. And forget this notion that you need to have one display next to another to see the difference. It's clear to me without doing so, and the difference is only exacerbated when you put the Amoled and IPS displays side by side.

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I'm confused. You quote about the display being 1 cent different in your article but ignore the billions invested into it? But ignore the price. Why would Samsung make the superior IPS display but use an amoled?

As far as battery life is concerned, I'm not talking about phones, technically I wasn't talking about battery life. So "completely untrue" about something I wasnt talking about? Anyway i was just saying LCD is a power hungry technology. I don't think the IPS LCD is long for this world when Apple starts making larger screen iPhones and can't cram a massive battery in like the new iPad. That's always been my gripe with HTC. Regardless no phone last me all day so its a moot point.

I do agree I don't always need a phone to be side my side to see its shortcomings it just helps. Like on my 4S, its black so its easy to see how bad the blacks are on screen. Poor contrast ratio is pretty obvious too but that's inherent with LCD technology. I imagine if I had a white iPhone the black's would look better and the whites would really pop...

 

[nooaah]

Yea, cause all women are midgets and all men are giants.







On another note: I thought it was suppose to have equal or better bat life than the iPhone.

Most men's hands are bigger than most women's hands. That's just biology.

I tried out a Nexus before I pre-ordered my S3 just to get a handle of the size and I had no problems reaching anything with one hand. I'm only 5'8" or 5'9" and my hands aren't catcher's mits.

 

[blairh]

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I'm confused. You quote about the display being 1 cent different in your article but ignore the billions invested into it? But ignore the price. Why would Samsung make the superior IPS display but use an amoled?

As far as battery life is concerned, I'm not talking about phones, technically I wasn't talking about battery life. So "completely untrue" about something I wasnt talking about? Anyway i was just saying LCD is a power hungry technology. I don't think the IPS LCD is long for this world when Apple starts making larger screen iPhones and can't cram a massive battery in like the new iPad. That's always been my gripe with HTC. Regardless no phone last me all day so its a moot point.

I do agree I don't always need a phone to be side my side to see its shortcomings it just helps. Like on my 4S, its black so its easy to see how bad the blacks are on screen. Poor contrast ratio is pretty obvious too but that's inherent with LCD technology. I imagine if I had a white iPhone the black's would look better and the whites would really pop...

First off, you stated that Amoled displays cost Samsung more versus what Apple was paying for their IPS's. Clearly that isn't the case.

Second, the answer to your question, 'why would Samsung make the superior IPS display but use an amoled' is entirely answered in the article I linked. Samsung is investing in Amoled because they made said decision keeping all devices in mind (LCD's, tablets, smartphones, etc). Plus, as the article goes on to state, they are trying to sway the market with competitors. They want competitors to adopt Amoled. There hope is that embracing Amoled on their side will lead to the competition doing so too.

"As far as battery life is concerned, I'm not talking about phones, technically I wasn't talking about battery life."



What the f kind of response is this. Come on man. You clearly were talking about battery life in smartphones. You mentioned browsing the web and playing games. This is ridiculous.

Yes, the next iPhone will have an IPS display and that probably won't be changing anytime soon.

 

[Neverbepeace]

Exactly I don't carry a purse, and I don't wear ghetto pants with pockets big enough to fit an iPad in. I wear regular jeans and khakis, and my iPhone fits comfortable in my pants pockets (Don't even notice it), but when I put a case on it I don't like it. So I have been going caseless since the iPhone 3G.

Though I own a case for when I take it skiing or hunting or someplace I think I might break it.

What do you mean by "Ghetto"

"Baggy" would of been a better alternative don't you think?

 

[ericrwalker]

What do you mean by "Ghetto"

"Baggy" would of been a better alternative don't you think?

No, there is a difference.

 

[Neverbepeace]

No, there is a difference.

Please explain the difference.......

 

[ericrwalker]

Please explain the difference.......

I would say its a combination of the brand and how you wear them. South pole pants, and I can see more than an inch of your underwear, definitely ghetto.

 

[asr10 user]

Wow, looks like a bunch of people are feeling like leaving Apple with the disappointment of iOS5. Its similar to when die hard blackberry users switched because BB didnt follow the times and got stuck in their own ways.

I love my ip4 and love my android tablet. I will still wait for the iPhone 5 to be announced before making a decision. I also only want to get a Nexus phone so I can always have the newest version of Android, wouldnt want to be one of those Android users stuck on non ICS with a year old phone.

 

[lordofthereef]

Excellent idea!

Seriously, though, I'll tell you what I get told when I do raise the Android issue: '(1) if you don't like a post or thread, don't read it; and (2) if you believe a post is trolling alert the mods. Otherwise, live with it.' I suppose this works all ways...

I am not sure if you believe that I thought you were trolling, so to clarify I didn't think that. I have just noticed you sound like a broken record, on this topic specifically. It's tough to "not read a post" in a thread you are interested in, especially when the poster often does have legitimate things to say (a compliment, to be clear).

Either way, simply repeating that we need a different thread for these things isn't going to make it so. People that actually care ad think this needs to happen should probably write a clear and concise note to the mods on why this would be beneficial to the community. That might actually incite change. Just a suggestion of course. For all I know you may have already done this!

 

[SR45]

Cheers and adios.

I did my best to get banned on here, but the mods are too nice.

Still, you and a few others made this enjoyable with the back and forth. SIII is the better phone though.

I'm out.

Thank God. Can't understand the Android trolls coming to this forum to post in the first place. Does not change my mind except that you Android trolls are wacko

 

[VulchR]

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Either way, simply repeating that we need a different thread for these things isn't going to make it so. People that actually care ad think this needs to happen should probably write a clear and concise note to the mods on why this would be beneficial to the community. That might actually incite change. Just a suggestion of course. For all I know you may have already done this!

I do not propose a different thread - just a sub-forum dedicated to iOS vs other mobile OS's, in which the Android threads would seem to fit better than in a generic iPhone forum. I and others have raised this with the admins (there are at least two threads about this in the Site and Forum Feedback forum). I also posted a poll, and suffice it to say rather more MR readers favored a separate forum than leaving things as they are. Thus, I and others have tried to raise this issue, but the owners of MR are sticking to the status quo for reasons I still do not understand. Perhaps one day I will wear them down (or more likely get banned for being a pain in the a$$).

 

[ericrwalker]

Cheers and adios.

I did my best to get banned on here, but the mods are too nice.

Still, you and a few others made this enjoyable with the back and forth. SIII is the better phone though.

I'm out.

It's a lot easier to get banned if you start supporting the GOP in the political threads.