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blairh

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Dec 11, 2007
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IP4s sucks compared to the S3. To washed out and uses a dull halogen white. iP4s is best when the screen is off, so it can get more than 4 hours of battery life. Fails in other regards.

Total BS. 4/4S produces natural colors. Washed out only compared to the artificial colors produced by Amoled. Dull halogen white? You want dull, compare the 4/4S to a white at full brightness on the SIII. Difference is night and day.

I can use my iPhone 4 with no battery issues. I speak for many. Also your reply is very ridiculous.

You don't like the iPhone, so be it. But IPS is a superior technology compared to Amoled unless you game or watch a lot of movies on your smartphone. Which I don't. Even then IPS is great for video.
 

nefan65

macrumors 65816
Apr 15, 2009
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You iFaithful really need to take a reading comprehension class. Where did I ever say you had to turns anything off? I simply pointed out things that drain battery on ANY phone.

The iP4s battery already sucks a55, but if you had widgets, LTE and live wallpapers installed, you'd be lucky to see a two hours of up time. I use my phone continuously, especially in the car with Google Nav, Pandora and email/texts running in the background. And I still get 17+ hours. But I don't use live wallpapers or widgets that require constant updates from the web. Care to share if you have ever seen 17+ hours on your iphone (with even moderate use?)

I easily get 2 days between charges using my phone for texts, emails, calls, and streaming. Never had issues...

I just shared my phone stuff. Then again, my life doesn't revolve around a phone, the phone revolves around my life. You should try it. Put the phone down...go find a girl. Go out to eat, and see a show or something.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
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Lincoln, England
I know I'll get flamed for this, but I HAVE to ask. If you have to turn all that stuff off just to get decent battery life, what's the point of having the phone? Why not just get a bar phone?

Battery life is good on this phone compared to other Android phones.

On a usual day I have about 30% battery left when I put it on charge at night. I can get five hours screen on time out of it on an excessive day :p

I think it's easy to obsess about battery life rather than actually think about whether it's adequate. I'm sometimes like "oh ffs, 50%?!" even though it's easily going to last me as long as I need it to.
 

blairh

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Dec 11, 2007
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The bluish tint dont bother most people and they dont notice it.
Just because you like to have your screen turned up all the way dont mean the screen sucks on the GS3.
I bet you wouldnt have even noticed if it wasnt mentioned in the other thread.

I went and demoed the SIII with an open and positive mind. It goes beyond the bluish tint. The whites are simply pathetic. Brightness too. These facts are backed up by Anandtech's review. It has nothing to do with keeping brightness at max. When you compare the iPhone and SIII on equal brightness levels with respect to simply levels, the difference is glaring.

Amoled is just an inferior technology when it comes to browsing the web and doing things beyond color games and movies. If it works for some, so be it, but I'm just stating my opinion. I know this view is shared by many. IPS is just a better choice for a smartphone screen IMO. If you disagree and love the SIII, so be it.
 

0m3ga

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Mar 1, 2012
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I easily get 2 days between charges using my phone for texts, emails, calls, and streaming. Never had issues...

I just shared my phone stuff. Then again, my life doesn't revolve around a phone, the phone revolves around my life. You should try it. Put the phone down...go find a girl. Go out to eat, and see a show or something.

LOL. Lasts 2 days, because you don't use it. It's in standby the majority of the time. Ask me how I know! If I were to do that, I can easily get 4+ days. I'm talking about USING the phone. Up time.

As for me and my life. I've seen more, lived through more and experienced more than you could fathom. I'll leave it at that, because now you are getting into a subject that no civilian could ever understand.
 

0m3ga

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Mar 1, 2012
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Did I ever once say anything needed to be turned off? No.

Did you not say the S3 screens sucks? Yes, you did.

Do you own or have ever used an S3 and made equal adjustments for comparison between the S3 and iPhone? No. (I have both phones and did a comparison. With equal settings and max brightness, both phones have the same luminocity. The iPhone is more off white and the S3 is slightly blue white, like hid lights. I prefer the soothing blue, due to the rgbg subpixels.)

Do you talk crap about something you have no knowledge about? Yes.

You are an Apple propogandist, nothing more. By the way, 20 bucks says I own more Apple products than you. I just refused to stay on knee pads and suck from the kool-aid teet of Apple like you.

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Total BS. 4/4S produces natural colors. Washed out only compared to the artificial colors produced by Amoled. Dull halogen white? You want dull, compare the 4/4S to a white at full brightness on the SIII. Difference is night and day.

I can use my iPhone 4 with no battery issues. I speak for many. Also your reply is very ridiculous.

You don't like the iPhone, so be it. But IPS is a superior technology compared to Amoled unless you game or watch a lot of movies on your smartphone. Which I don't. Even then IPS is great for video.

Tell me. Which tech sucks more battery amoled or ips. Wanna take bets on if the next iphone has ips?

And yes, i have put my ip4 and s3 together and compared them. Have you?
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
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Did I ever once say anything needed to be turned off? No.

Did you not say the S3 screens sucks? Yes, you did.

Do you own or have ever used an S3 and made equal adjustments for comparison between the S3 and iPhone? No. (I have both phones and did a comparison. With equal settings and max brightness, both phones have the same luminocity. The iPhone is more off white and the S3 is slightly blue white, like hid lights. I prefer the soothing blue, due to the rgbg subpixels.)

Do you talk crap about something you have no knowledge about? Yes.

You are an Apple propogandist, nothing more. By the way, 20 bucks says I own more Apple products than you. I just refused to stay on knee pads and suck from the kool-aid teet of Apple like you.

I won't be replying anymore to you after this post. You are being simply ridiculous.

Yes, you mentioned the iPhone screen is best when it's turned off.

Yes, I said the SIII screen sucks. And I stand by that statement. That's my personal opinion of the SIII screen. It produces terrible whites and is very dim no matter what brightness you set it at.

Yes, I spent a good amount of time comparing the SIII screen and iPhone 4 screen at different levels of brightness in my time demoing it. I find it cute that you assume I did not do such a thing.

Yes, I know exactly what I'm talking about. I've done a lot of research regarding Amoled and IPS technology since demoing the SIII. I've also read up the specific panel used on the SIII. And, the Anandtech review of the SIII essentially backs up everything I'm saying with technical graphs.

Your last paragraph is utterly pathetic and you come across as some ignorant teenager or someone incapable of having a discussion. If you look at my post history you would know how excited I have been by the SIII leading up to my demo. Just because I was wildly disappointed by the SIII's screen does not make me any single thing you have decided to call me. You might want to think twice before throwing out insults just because someone states they prefer IPS over Amoled for their smartphone. It makes you come across as someone entirely incapable of discussion and instead you retort to calling people fanboys and the like if they insult the SIII. Grow up.

Lastly, I am very excited for the LG line of smartphones coming in the fall. IPS, ICS, LTE, etc. Wow, what an Apple fanboy comment I just made.

I'm sure you will reply by insulting me yet again. I won't be replying to you anymore on this forum. I've made a mental note of your sn so if I don't reply to you moving forward, it's not because you have 'won' any discussion.

Yes, I think the SIII screen leaves a lot to be desired. Yes, I think the iPhone 4/4S screen, despite being smaller, is superior to the SIII's. Yes, I realize that some SIII owners or future owners are going to pounce on such a statement. So be it. That's how I honestly feel when I compare the iPhone and SIII screen. Cheers.

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Tell me. Which tech sucks more battery amoled or ips. Wanna take bets on if the next iphone has ips?

And yes, i have put my ip4 and s3 together and compared them. Have you?

I honestly have never had an issue with the battery life on any of my iPhone's since using the 3G in 2008. I really don't know why you keep stating this. In my personal use (mix of email/web/music/twitter/everything) the iPhone battery remains up until I go home. If I need to go out late into the night, I usually recharge my iPhone as I'm getting ready.

Yes, the next iPhone will have a IPS screen.

Cheers.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
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32
Lincoln, England
I went and demoed the SIII with an open and positive mind. It goes beyond the bluish tint. The whites are simply pathetic. Brightness too. These facts are backed up by Anandtech's review. It has nothing to do with keeping brightness at max. When you compare the iPhone and SIII on equal brightness levels with respect to simply levels, the difference is glaring.

Amoled is just an inferior technology when it comes to browsing the web and doing things beyond color games and movies. If it works for some, so be it, but I'm just stating my opinion. I know this view is shared by many. IPS is just a better choice for a smartphone screen IMO. If you disagree and love the SIII, so be it.

Screen looks amazing to me but I'm comparing it to the last phones I've owned: -

- Samsung Galaxy S2
- HTC Desire
- Nokia 5800 XpressMusic
- 1st gen iPhone

(in that order)

I love the look of AMOLEDs and the screen seems plenty bright enough. Deep blacks look amazing and also save power, double yay :D
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I went and demoed the SIII with an open and positive mind. It goes beyond the bluish tint. The whites are simply pathetic. Brightness too. These facts are backed up by Anandtech's review. It has nothing to do with keeping brightness at max. When you compare the iPhone and SIII on equal brightness levels with respect to simply levels, the difference is glaring.

Amoled is just an inferior technology when it comes to browsing the web and doing things beyond color games and movies. If it works for some, so be it, but I'm just stating my opinion. I know this view is shared by many. IPS is just a better choice for a smartphone screen IMO. If you disagree and love the SIII, so be it.

Thats what i meant. You wouldnt have noticed it if it werent mentioned in the last thread. Most dont care if their screen is really white and why more contrast on TV's is mentioned a lot for the blacks looking great.

They all have good screens and its just a matter of what you like and it appears you like your screen to be brighter with more whites. Your in the minority on that, which is fine but it doesnt mean the screen on the GS3 sucks. It is in fact a very nice screen and you dont prefer it. Most everyone else is fine with it.

That asside, thats one factor. There are many other things that the phone does better than IP4S and to me , the HTC X not having a micro SD slot is a deal breaker. Otherwise, i really like that phone but for me, that was too big a deal. Just like your screen issue. For me, the screen isnt top priority. It still looks good and there arent many IPS screens out there and the ones that are, ...HTC messed up with the micro slot and i wont buy a LG phone til they prove they have stepped up their game because their phones havent been very good. They havent done that yet.
 

Shockwave78

macrumors 65816
Jul 10, 2010
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I love all these talk about screen specs in detail like some of these people are designing screens for a living or something. Who cares about the specs...if you put two screens side and do a fair amount of comparing you will like whichever one it is you like better. I think a lot of people read all these screen specs, that really engineers should really only care about. They get brainwashed thinking i must have this type of screen and everything else is inferior.

Ask any videophile and they will all tell you the same thing...screen size is everything. They will take a lower quality display if it gives you much more real estate to work with.
 

0m3ga

macrumors 6502
Mar 1, 2012
491
0
post deleted for brevity.

Cheers.

Cheers and adios.

I did my best to get banned on here, but the mods are too nice.

Still, you and a few others made this enjoyable with the back and forth. SIII is the better phone though.

I'm out.
 

xAnthony

macrumors 65816
Mar 2, 2010
1,174
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I gotta say that it's kind of embarrassing that there's "men" here who claim that the iPhone is too big and meanwhile, we've got women buying 4.8" Android phones and not complaining about them at all.

I wouldn't expect anything less than seeing your name as the first post in a thread that talks about an Android device.

I'm surprised you haven't made a poll about this post yet....
 

bassett700

macrumors member
Jan 8, 2009
93
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Dingus, VA
It's amazing how a technology forum can provoke such venom. Android vs. Iphone: really something that needs to be argued about with such anger? They're just phones, guys and gals. Keyboard muscles have taken over the Internet.

P.S. If you want to have a real debate, let's talk about how the Yanks own the Red Sox and their pathetic fans. ;)
 

VulchR

macrumors 68040
Jun 8, 2009
3,508
14,459
Scotland
It's amazing how a technology forum can provoke such venom. Android vs. Iphone: really something that needs to be argued about with such anger? ...

Agreed. As night follows day, these Android/iOS posts quickly degenerate into a lot of unnecessary nastiness. As much as I like the OP's review, I can't help but feel that Android threads should be in a separate sub-forum. I think that would bring down the level of combativeness because provocateurs will have less of an audience, get bored, and leave the moderates to discuss the issues in peace. Also, it would ruffle fewer feathers among those of us who come to MR to learn about Apple's products. Actually, I am getting kinda tired of the nastiness in MR and I am looking for an alternative site that genuinely focuses on Apple's products.
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
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Thats what i meant. You wouldnt have noticed it if it werent mentioned in the last thread. Most dont care if their screen is really white and why more contrast on TV's is mentioned a lot for the blacks looking great.

They all have good screens and its just a matter of what you like and it appears you like your screen to be brighter with more whites. Your in the minority on that, which is fine but it doesnt mean the screen on the GS3 sucks. It is in fact a very nice screen and you dont prefer it. Most everyone else is fine with it.

That asside, thats one factor. There are many other things that the phone does better than IP4S and to me , the HTC X not having a micro SD slot is a deal breaker. Otherwise, i really like that phone but for me, that was too big a deal. Just like your screen issue. For me, the screen isnt top priority. It still looks good and there arent many IPS screens out there and the ones that are, ...HTC messed up with the micro slot and i wont buy a LG phone til they prove they have stepped up their game because their phones havent been very good. They havent done that yet.

That's absolutely not true. Every time I've demoed an Android device, I have my iPhone out and I'm comparing both screens. Has nothing to do with anything being said on this forum.

The performance of whites and brightness are both crucial to me when debating a smartphone. I read a lot of articles, browse sites with white backgrounds. A greyish white at full brightness like on the SIII is going to make reading text a chore compared to my iPhone 4. There is a very clear reason why people have proclaimed the One X the best screen on the market. The Super IPS LCD2 technology is second to none with respect to clarity of reading text, display life-like images, etc.

I seriously disagree that my viewpoint is the 'minority' with respect to this preference. You can argue that all you want but I do believe most consumers want a screen that is bright and makes reading text easy. I seriously find it rare that people complain about the retina display aside from the size of it and the occasional 'it's washed out' which tends to come from a feverish Android defender.

I do think the SIII screen sucks. Like I said before, it excels at games and video however most people spend a lot of time browsing and reading text on their smartphones. Sure, you can do so on the SIII, and yes, some people will declare they love this experience on their SIII too. But I feel strongly that in that regard, the IPS technology is vastly superior.

I've never used a microSD card. 64 GB of internal storage is plenty for me. The One X is a very flawed device with its multitasking issues, buggy wi-fi, and protruding camera. I don't fear LG one bit. Optimus is probably the best Android skin on the market. I can't wait to see what they bring to the table in the States. The Optimus LTE II is a killer device.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
That's absolutely not true. Every time I've demoed an Android device, I have my iPhone out and I'm comparing both screens. Has nothing to do with anything being said on this forum.

The performance of whites and brightness are both crucial to me when debating a smartphone. I read a lot of articles, browse sites with white backgrounds. A greyish white at full brightness like on the SIII is going to make reading text a chore compared to my iPhone 4. There is a very clear reason why people have proclaimed the One X the best screen on the market. The Super IPS LCD2 technology is second to none with respect to clarity of reading text, display life-like images, etc.

I seriously disagree that my viewpoint is the 'minority' with respect to this preference. You can argue that all you want but I do believe most consumers want a screen that is bright and makes reading text easy. I seriously find it rare that people complain about the retina display aside from the size of it and the occasional 'it's washed out' which tends to come from a feverish Android defender.

I do think the SIII screen sucks. Like I said before, it excels at games and video however most people spend a lot of time browsing and reading text on their smartphones. Sure, you can do so on the SIII, and yes, some people will declare they love this experience on their SIII too. But I feel strongly that in that regard, the IPS technology is vastly superior.

I've never used a microSD card. 64 GB of internal storage is plenty for me. The One X is a very flawed device with its multitasking issues, buggy wi-fi, and protruding camera. I don't fear LG one bit. Optimus is probably the best Android skin on the market. I can't wait to see what they bring to the table in the States. The Optimus LTE II is a killer device.

64 GB is plenty but if you buy that for an iPhone...that thing is very expensive. I got a 32 GB micro card for $32. So if i get only a 16GB phone, i have 48 Gigs for only $32 over the upgrade price and the GS3 suppports a 64 GB micro card.

As for the screen, as i said, thats your preference and thats cool but i think most dont care or notice teh bluish tint. I never have my brightness over halfway up.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
13,161
3,721
Boston, MA
Exactly I don't carry a purse, and I don't wear ghetto pants with pockets big enough to fit an iPad in. I wear regular jeans and khakis, and my iPhone fits comfortable in my pants pockets (Don't even notice it), but when I put a case on it I don't like it. So I have been going caseless since the iPhone 3G.

I am 6'1", 180lbs, 32 waist, male (I feel like I am giving an ASL like the good old days!) and wear exactly as you described. I have the GNex (similar in size to the SGS3) along with an iPhone 4S. I have no problems pocketing either device. In fact, the iPhone 4S often flips sideways in my pocket, especially when I sit and then stand back up, while the GNex never does that. Implying that a person needs to where "ghetto pants" in order to pocket this "iPad sized" device is completely over the top. I can see it being a problem in skin tight jeans perhaps, but frankly the iPhone 4/S would be uncomfortable as well here.

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As night follows day, these Android/iOS posts quickly degenerate into a lot of unnecessary nastiness. As much as I like the OP's review, I can't help but feel that Android threads should be in a separate sub-forum.

And also as night follows day, you make this same post in every thread that mentions Android. I recommend you write up a good post and save it somewhere to copy and paste. It will save you lots time. Seriously, it will.
 

applefanDrew

macrumors 65816
Jul 17, 2010
1,437
4
Well as I have intimated in previous posts, I did finally take the plunge to get a SSGS3. Here are my opinions/assessments on it compared to my iP4.

Build Quality:

Despite what some people say about the build quality, I think the device feels lovely in my quite small hands. It has a nice feel to it, best compared to a really nice slick candy that slides across your tongue or a really good quality chocolate that just melts in your mouth like silk. No I am not biting on the device, but to say it feels cheap is BS (remember this is all MY opinion). It is light as hell and compared to the build quality of the iP4 (which is my comparison basis), feels more nimble and light. Yes iP4 has a SOLID build to it, it is a lovely device but the GS3 feels lighter and nicer in the hand.

Screen:

The screen IS awesome. I can see no difference in text or desktop resolution. I was anticipating to see some fuzzy but I see nothing to say that it is in any way less than the retina screen. The real estate of the screen is also amazing. If this was a factor to keep from switching, don't even sweat it.

Size:

OK here I am mixed. I do like the pocket-ability of the iP4 make no bones about that. SSGS3 is NOT a pocket phone in any way, shape or form. If you have really baggy pants or large pockets you can fit it in there but for me, since I value investments, it will now either be in a holster or in my purse.

As far as texting, I find it the same if not a little bit better than the iP4 (i love the haptic feed back, but have currently disengaged it to solve a battery issue). Even though I have short stumpy thumbs it works well. I am looking into getting a thumb keyboard app which splits the keyboard like it does on the iPad.

Reading and watching everything is better on this device. Especially as you get a bit older haha!

One handed texting: Awkward, but I have never one hand texted much before so it's not an issue for me. This might be a deal breaker for some though. I couldn't one hand text for shizz anyways...

Speed:

Yep it's fast but this is my first 4G/LTE phone so I am not really going to count that as a comparison.

Battery:

Here is the pain. Firstly since this is my first Android phone, other than reading forums etc I really can't judge what is GOOD for an Android phone battery...I can only compare it to the iP4 and the iP4 wins hands down for battery.

I know I have to be much more diligent with my usage and what to have on vs what I did with the iP4. With the iPhone, I never had to turn off things such as wifi, bluetooth etc just to save battery. I realize the screen takes a lot of juice and I have it turned down accordingly. What is bloody wierd is that I am getting a crap tonne of battery drain from Cell standby when I use the battery guage to see what resources are using power. I am still working on this to see how I can configure it. I am getting a full day out of the phone, but I hear others are doing much better than I (even after going to several sites and learning tips on how to best conserve battery on Android phone).

So, the battery comes nowhere near the iPhone4. This is not a deal breaker for me as I am still new to it and I still have a learning curve on the device. I hear this is an issue for the european versions (regarding cell phone standby).

Odds and Ends:

I am sure I haven't even begun to tap the depth of what this device can do. It is really easy to get wallpapers, ringtones etc to customize it and this is a delight.

I haven't delved into the music aspect yet, but video plays smooth and loads fast.

The speaker is much better than on the iP4 for listening to music when I am in the shower.

I have taken some video and a few pics and the camera seems to work well but I will go more into it this weekend.

Call quality is great both on receiving end and my end.

I had a beeotch of a time trying to convince my friends idevices that my phone number was no longer associated with an apple ID. I had to actually turn off iMessage AND remove the device from my account on the Apple website as I would text my friends and their texts would bounce to my iPhone.

Again, I am just starting the learning curve, but so far no regrets. The apps I have downloaded look great but one thing that blows is that for the Mint.com finance one, Android doesn't allow you a quick search function to choose what you spent your money on when you are entering an expenditure which iPhone app does (huge time saver that is too!).

Now it is just the time will tell. If I can get the battery to work as I expect it should and if the device proves as reliable and constant as my iPhone then I will have no regrets.


Concerning the battery...I don't think the average user should have to "configure" anything. They should be able to pull it out of the box and use it without concern. It's this type of thing that screams "FAIL" about Android to me.
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
5,972
4,472
64 GB is plenty but if you buy that for an iPhone...that thing is very expensive. I got a 32 GB micro card for $32. So if i get only a 16GB phone, i have 48 Gigs for only $32 over the upgrade price and the GS3 suppports a 64 GB micro card.

As for the screen, as i said, thats your preference and thats cool but i think most dont care or notice teh bluish tint. I never have my brightness over halfway up.

It's cool that you can use a microSD card and get that storage for less but honestly it really doesn't bother me to pay more and get the same thing. To me it's a small price to pay to get the smartphone experience you want or need.

I'm open to an Android device in the future. But it has to have a great IPS screen, ICS, LTE, and a physical home button.

Again, I disagree that 'most don't care'. I've seen countless comments from YouTube vids to forums like The Verge where people bluntly state that the One X screen or IPS in general is superior to Amoled. Again, yes it's a matter of opinion, but I really feel strongly about that. If you disagree, so be it.

I could never use a smartphone with half brightness. I like a bright screen which I find easiest to read off of, use, and the best experience in direct sunlight.
 

mrsir2009

macrumors 604
Sep 17, 2009
7,505
156
Melbourne, Australia
In a purse, their bra, a coat/outerwear pocket, or in their hand for what seems to be 24/7.

Haha, I'll never understand why a large number of woman (that I see, anyway) keep their phone in their bra. It looks awkward and uncomfortable... Maybe they want to draw attention to that area, I dunno, but why not in the pocket where it is probably a lot safer and more comfortable? :eek:
 
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