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T-Mobile and Google Introduce First Android Phone

NoExpectations said:
Do they (T-Mobile and Google) really think that they will sway a lot of consumers away from the iPhone ($199) by 'saving' them $20? There are simply too many deficiencies with this phone. Even if this Android Phone was on par with the iPhone, feature for feature, it still lacks the iPhone's "cool factor". No one will ever walk up to a teenager and say "Wow...an Android Phone!...where did you get that?!"
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*Shrug* This looks like it has a lot more potential to me. I don't really like the iPhone/touch OS after using it full time, and I hate how the platform is closed. Android seems much more like a real computing platform to compete with Palm.

I also like that this has a hardware keyboard. At least long term I'd hope this would do PIM well, and have an office suit that's as useable as Palm OS equivalents.

And, I'll probably actually be able to buy an Android based phone in the next year or two. Who knows when or if an iPhone will ever be available on my carrier.
 
zedsdead said:
The only advantage I see is the Amazon mp3 store. This is really becoming a thorn in Apple's side. They need to mandate that all music is drm-free, period. They are the #1 music retailer in the US, time to start throwing that weight around.

While this is probably the best platform and device outside of Apple's, it is still not an iPhone, nor is it OS-X. Makes me appreciate mine even more for how truly unique it is.
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drm free that's funny....apple doesn't want itunes drm free ;)
 
Trip.Tucker said:
MMS is dead. Time for acceptance. Email your damn pics and stop whining.
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ha ha ha ha ha......just because apple does not support it, does not mean it is dead! So how are people who do not have smart phones or have older phones that do not support e-mail suppose to e-mail them?????

P.S Copy and paste is also not dead......just apple are too busy fixing bugs to implement it.
 
gikku said:
what's the compelling reason?
there's no installed customer/user base.

No desktop application to sync
Tied to Google webmail, meh!

who will buy it ?
a few "freetards" perhaps, but how many "freetards" will cop a 24mth plan and $179 upfront? nah.

too little, too late. :)
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Quiet simply, Geeks / people who like gadgets. While the iphone is nice too look at and easy to use, its locked down and its real potential is gimped....The App store is all about $$ and big brother watching.

Just wait and see what type of cool apps come out. This is the first generation of it. As it is Open there will be some cool development done, in 6 months it will be quiet interesting while we iphone users are stuck with the same crap from the app store.

And the 1GB, who cares, memory only gets cheaper, you can throw in 16GB now and in 6 months time you will be able to throw in 32 GB, at least it can upgrade!

I have a open minded approach so will give it a go, also casue frankly i am getting tired of playing tester for the iphone, with continues bugs and crashes...for a company that prides itself on OS X and how it just works....how did the iphone software make it through testing???? My mail is still broken and my battery life is still crap after 2.1

At least this phone brings competition, which is good for the market.
 
NAG said:
Did a good job of missing the point there. Here is a hint, is your phone a webserver? Wait wait, you're a foss religious nut so you probably expect it to be a webserver. Never mind that I asked.
...
While it would be nice for Apple to open up their NDA centric tactic at the moment, I question anyone who thinks a free for all is any better.
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One of us one of us one us one of us one of us...
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Can you guys stop using that stump of a line? It is completely irrelevant to what we're talking about here.
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I don't know why you felt the need to bite my head off there, I was just pointing out that the Android platform has a lot of potential and hopefully its introduction will be better for everyone, because lets face it up until now the iPhone has really been dominant and the reason for that is just that it is the best thing out there, but that could change now with Android. Sure, Android might not become *better* than the iPhone but it can at least become equally as good.

And you can't deny Linux had a huge role in the creation of the Internet as we know it today. I'm tempted to make an accusation about you but unlike some people I don't make judgments based on just one forum post.

(and what the hell's wrong with a phone being a web server!? it makes a hell of a lot of sense if a phone isn't being used anymore and the website is fairly simple and low traffic, I can't think of a better device: low energy usage, silent and it takes up next to no room)
 
This is an endless argument over a platform like Android vs. one like
iPhone OSX.

Some people love to tinker with there stuff,
and some people need a tool for their life and business,
they are too busy to tinker with a phone.
They just need simple immediate function.

I am in the latter category.
And the iPhone is the swiss army knife of portable devices.
 
megfilmworks said:
This is an endless argument over a platform like Android vs. one like
iPhone OSX.

Some people love to tinker with there stuff,
and some people need a tool for their life and business,
they are too busy to tinker with a phone.
They just need simple immediate function.

I am in the latter category.
And the iPhone is the swiss army knife of portable devices.
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The iPhone right now can't do plenty that other portable devices have been able to do for over a decade. And just because something's open, doesn't mean it requires tinkering. The Palm platform has been stagnant for half a decade, but it's open, and has never required any tinkering. You CAN tinker with it, but it's certainly not required.

Right now we don't have any reason to suspect Google's OS is going to be any worse in that regard than Palm OS. From what I've heard of it, it sounds like a modern equivalent. (In many ways the iPhone OS is too.)

EDIT: You know, something I'll never understand is how horrible Windows Mobile is. This is coming from a company that made Vista, XP, Windows 2000, etc., that IMO I actually for the most part think have better interfaces than OS X, and are just as modern (only far more backwards compatible). How can that same company make something as atrocious as Windows Mobile? I swear they have two guys in a room somewhere working on it. I think I counted how many clicks it took to close a program, and without third party software, it was like 9 or something. The Palm model of having most programs save state and quit when changing them makes SO much more sense, and that's what Apple's doing too, and I presume Google.
 
I keep hearing that, and personally I don't get it. To me it looks really nice. Though I'm much more about function than form.
 
Our local radio just reviewed this phone and they said something really funny "..Dear iphone owners, dont worry, anyone with the Android Phone is still going to envy you.."
And i believe them :D
 
Maldini said:
Our local radio just reviewed this phone and they said something really funny "..Dear iphone owners, dont worry, anyone with the Android Phone is still going to envy you.."
And i believe them :D
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That's cute and all, but if it's as functional as it seems, I seriously doubt it. Though I imagine out of the gate it's going to take some time to develop an ecosystem, get good PIM stuff working, etc.
 
I heard the other day that right now Android dosen't provide a way to sync PIM type data to a computer (don't even know what it's PIM capabilities are). So that's a deal killer right now.

Unfortunately IMO Palm's still the only company that makes workable devices for PIM. I SO hope their new OS is good!

(EDIT: And I hope Apple fixes their PIM stuff on the iPhone platform-I guess iCal is competent, but Calendar on the touch platform...)
 
What sold me was the 35 bucks a month unlimited plan . I agree that the iPhone is better but it's to expensive . I'm a lttle upset bc I pre order my to late now I won't get it till November 11th.
 
Cleverboy said:
The iPhone has something MUCH better than Bluetooth file transfer. Anyone lobbying for Apple to get that is pretty much off their rocker. Better that Apple concentrate on A2DP and possibly Bluetooth Keyboard/game controller support. 'Nuff said.

~ CB
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Yeah because it's such a crazy and wild thing to ask for! Not to mention how HARD it is to implement... kind of like that whole crazy copy/paste thing people keep whining and crying about. I mean does anyone like have any idea how many YEARS that would take to bring to the iPhone? It's comparable to asking for Apple to figure out how to get to the moon, after all! We might as well just ask Apple to support .AVI on AppleTV! I mean come on. It's too hard! Ask for something easy, people, like maybe a way to buy more things from the iTunes store, say like a bootup message asking if you'd like to spend $20 on random music from the iTunes store in DRM formats that won't work on anything else! Yes! That's the kind of thing Apple would implement in a heartbeat if only you people would ask for it! Go :apple:!
 
jrok18 said:
What sold me was the 35 bucks a month unlimited plan . I agree that the iPhone is better but it's to expensive . I'm a lttle upset bc I pre order my to late now I won't get it till November 11th.
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What's this? You don't mean for voice, do you? I'll switch today if it was (though mine's $40 a month for EFFECTIVELY unlimited voice).
 
Sorry if I this stuff has already been said, I don't fell like reading 14 pages of post.

Copy and paste?
Looks like they gave something the iPhone can compete with but once the Android comes out Apple is probably going to release software with copy/paste soon after. Maybe in 2.2 or 2.3...?

Lol, besides copy and paste it doesn't look very "high-tech" at all.
And no standard pre loaded video player.
Only 1GB for the base model.
And no removable sim.
 
iParis said:
Sorry if I this stuff has already been said, I don't fell like reading 14 pages of post.

Copy and paste?
Looks like they gave something the iPhone can compete with but once the Android comes out Apple is probably going to release software with copy/paste soon after. Maybe in 2.2 or 2.3...?

Lol, besides copy and paste it doesn't look very "high-tech" at all.
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No, but it's hard to claim something's a remotely modern computing platform without it. I mean Windows in the '80s had it. (Though that's not the only big thing missing from the mobile OS X platform to make it a real computing platform :( )

Apple's pretty much said it's coming, that it's on their "to do" list-which actually for Apple is pretty amazing they've said anything publicly. I doubt it's coming that soon though. I mean my "gut feeling" is it won't be in the next update or two, but maybe after that...basing that on almost no info of course :D (though 2.2's betas don't have it).
 
Did anyone get one?

I saw a T-Mobile salesman leave the store with one.

I think they're out today. I didn't see any T-Mobile campers yesterday... :eek:

Most of us T-Mobile/Apple fanboys have an unlocked iPhone anyways.... :D
 
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