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T-Mobile and Google Introduce First Android Phone
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Apple doesn't control the DRM/no DRM issue. The labels do. Remember Steve's public letter about DRM? If the labels allowed it, Apple would almost certainly go fully DRM-free today.
Though I would love to see Apple demand DRM-free and then sue for anti-competitive practices when the labels pulled out of iTunes (since they sell DRM-free in Amazon).
It's criminal that they (the labels) allow DRM-free in Amazon but not iTunes.
1 GB is a breaking point for me. I'm almost out of room on my iPhone, and it has 16 times as much storage. If they want people to install a bunch of apps, they need some serious storage on this thing.
Here's what I'd like to know -- why is Eric Schmidt still on Apple's board? They already make him walk out of the room when they discuss the iPhone. It's ridiculous. It reminds me of when Bill Gates used to hang out at Apple when the first Mac was being developed.
I hear yaa! I havent had any real use other than writing out a speech for a wedding on Notes. but then I just emailed it to myself and printed it
so no need to copy and paste to a email app within phone.
Off topic:
Your post is interesting: it has parallels to the current Apple AppStore situation were Apple refuse applications... likewise, shouldn't the Labels be able to control where they allow their music to be sold and how?
Whatever, this is an excellent start. I can only wish this is the phone that brings T-Mo some better recognition in North America. Stupid government taking forever to get off their 3G network.
I have T-Mo, and I tested ATT's data for free recently. You guys pay way too much to have to deal with the D-bags who answer the phones for them. Simply nasty. I just wish for 3G with T-Mo and a decent phone. I would love to have an iPhone, but the camera and battery makes me rethink it. Then I have to deal with the sleazy customer service at ATT while they hack my phone calls? I'll be with T-Mo till they fold.
Sure this phone isn't going to win any beauty contests. Neither does my 92' Toyota Celica, but it gets the job done. This is a great start for Android.
Also, bugger off about the comments on the open App store failing because of no quality control. How much control is there for submitting iMixes on iTunes, or Widgets for Dashboard? It seems if the app is good, people will weed out the fill and put it to the top of the list. Come on, the Dashboard Hula dancer was at the top for how long? And it had what functionality?
I have T-Mo, and I tested ATT's data for free recently. You guys pay way too much to have to deal with the D-bags who answer the phones for them. Simply nasty. I just wish for 3G with T-Mo and a decent phone. I would love to have an iPhone, but the camera and battery makes me rethink it. Then I have to deal with the sleazy customer service at ATT while they hack my phone calls? I'll be with T-Mo till they fold.
Sure this phone isn't going to win any beauty contests. Neither does my 92' Toyota Celica, but it gets the job done. This is a great start for Android.
Also, bugger off about the comments on the open App store failing because of no quality control. How much control is there for submitting iMixes on iTunes, or Widgets for Dashboard? It seems if the app is good, people will weed out the fill and put it to the top of the list. Come on, the Dashboard Hula dancer was at the top for how long? And it had what functionality?
And this is supposed to be an iPhone killer how?
I admit it's got some nice touches but overall it is as good or worse than the iPhone is many respects.
I'm not saying this because I am a 'fanboy'. I was just hoping for maybe something more. It just seems to have ripped off the iPhone without offering any major improvements. I would expect that from Nokia or Samsung but Android was really hyped up to be pretty revolutionary.
I admit it's got some nice touches but overall it is as good or worse than the iPhone is many respects.
I'm not saying this because I am a 'fanboy'. I was just hoping for maybe something more. It just seems to have ripped off the iPhone without offering any major improvements. I would expect that from Nokia or Samsung but Android was really hyped up to be pretty revolutionary.
I triple agree -- and it's all thanks to Apple design. For example:
1. Need to email a Web page? You can do so from Safari. No need to copy and paste the URL.
2. Need to dial a number? Just tap it and the Phone application dials it. No need to copy and paste it into the Phone application.
I don't think Apple gets enough credit for some of this clever design.
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my thoughts are it wont compete with the iPhone for awhile. they're a generation behind. even the app store is new (whinnner's take note) and if they (T-mobile) want to release just any app, i think it'll backfire. too much is never a good thing.
besides, t-mobile is on a smaller network, they've only made it in the past with their sidekicks. most people i knew with tmobile hated it.
and 1 GB to start? laugh. but if its an card you can remove (isn't it) that's pretty badass
i'll never betray apple though. they own me. where else would i go?
my thoughts are it wont compete with the iPhone for awhile. they're a generation behind. even the app store is new (whinnner's take note) and if they (T-mobile) want to release just any app, i think it'll backfire. too much is never a good thing.
besides, t-mobile is on a smaller network, they've only made it in the past with their sidekicks. most people i knew with tmobile hated it.
and 1 GB to start? laugh. but if its an card you can remove (isn't it) that's pretty badass
i'll never betray apple though. they own me. where else would i go?
Only THIS phone is locked to T-Mobile and not the platform. Come on!
It is not an attractive phone but so what? That is a problem with people today. Yes, Apple products are pretty and I like that about them - but if it works, and works well - I guess I am less impressed with style at that point.
I wonder if Apple will release iTunes for Android? I doubt it based on Apple of recent. That is a shame. I will look at one and I have an iPhone and all Apple computers. It will be nice to see the next hardware revision. Other manufactures will institute their own take on the Android platform.
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Copy/Paste? There's something better..
Correct! We need it for a few things like heavy text editing, but a better and much more elegant solution is something on the phone now but that can be expanded - data detectors! I explain exactly why copy and paste on the iPhone is mostly unnecessary here.
My reaction to it's looks is a flash back to using my old Palm PDA. It looks like a low-end plastic Palm PDA to me. Fugly is right.
$179 with a 1GB SD. So how much is a 8GB MicroSD ?
My problem with the keyboard is I don't type in Qwerty. At least with a screen keyboard it's just software to have an alternative layout.
So locked to T-mobile. How is that an improvement over what Apple did?
Well, I doubt this is an iPhone killer, it's likely to remain in the gadget/open software religion geeks only domain for the next year at least, but hopefully it will spur competition and drive Apple to make the next generation iPhone better.
$179 with a 1GB SD. So how much is a 8GB MicroSD ?
My problem with the keyboard is I don't type in Qwerty. At least with a screen keyboard it's just software to have an alternative layout.
So locked to T-mobile. How is that an improvement over what Apple did?
Well, I doubt this is an iPhone killer, it's likely to remain in the gadget/open software religion geeks only domain for the next year at least, but hopefully it will spur competition and drive Apple to make the next generation iPhone better.
What's the big deal?
I see nothing in the G1 / Android that makes me want to give up my iPhone. Honestly.
-The compass view in Maps is cool
-Copy / Paste is fine, but we all know that's coming to the iPhone soon
-Amazon MP3 Store is nice, but since you can get the same tracks on your computer and use them on the iPhone, so what?
-the "open, uncontrolled" Google Market. Great. Does this really matter so much to end users?
For all the bitching that some devs are doing regarding the App Store (BTW the creator of Podcaster could have been professional about it and contacted Apple and inquired about how he could make his app App Store compliant -like hundreds of other devs have done- but instead he chose to publicly whine about about being rejected, like a jilted girlfriend), I don't really see anything that makes the Google Market better for Android end users than the App Store is now for iPhone end users.
Android will probably be a hit, but not at the expense of the iPhone. Totally different league. Sure, Android will get better over time, but so will the iPhone OS. That's not fanboyism (is that a real word?), that's just common sense.
I see nothing in the G1 / Android that makes me want to give up my iPhone. Honestly.
-The compass view in Maps is cool
-Copy / Paste is fine, but we all know that's coming to the iPhone soon
-Amazon MP3 Store is nice, but since you can get the same tracks on your computer and use them on the iPhone, so what?
-the "open, uncontrolled" Google Market. Great. Does this really matter so much to end users?
For all the bitching that some devs are doing regarding the App Store (BTW the creator of Podcaster could have been professional about it and contacted Apple and inquired about how he could make his app App Store compliant -like hundreds of other devs have done- but instead he chose to publicly whine about about being rejected, like a jilted girlfriend), I don't really see anything that makes the Google Market better for Android end users than the App Store is now for iPhone end users.
Android will probably be a hit, but not at the expense of the iPhone. Totally different league. Sure, Android will get better over time, but so will the iPhone OS. That's not fanboyism (is that a real word?), that's just common sense.
I think the introduction of this phone and Android should answer your question!