That's very helpful info, thanks again. So when the iphone is connected to the VPN tunnel with 3G/EDGE, it's sorta like being connected directly into the router at home; I connect to the VNC server computer's internal network ip (192.168...). But does that mean all the network data on my iphone will go through the VPN while it's enabled - like Safari and Youtube too? Should I disconnect from the VPN each time I'm done using Teleport?
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That's very helpful info, thanks again. So when the iphone is connected to the VPN tunnel with 3G/EDGE, it's sorta like being connected directly into the router at home; I connect to the VNC server computer's internal network ip (192.168...). But does that mean all the network data on my iphone will go through the VPN while it's enabled - like Safari and Youtube too? Should I disconnect from the VPN each time I'm done using Teleport?
Absolutely, all your traffic while the VPN is connected will go to your home router and network first. That included Safari, YouTube, the Mail App, Teleport, anything on the iPhone that wants internet access.
Some people consider that an added bonus of the VPN: say you're sitting at Starbucks using their free Wi-Fi on the iPhone and want to check your e-mail or browse the web. Someone else in the store on the WiFi network could sniff your e-mail or browsing. If you get your Latte and then connect to your VPN before you check e-mail and browse, all your activity will be encrypted and routed home and then out to the internet, which protects you from WiFi sniffing while you're having a coffee
Edit: Rockstarjoe- you're welcome too! Glad that people are finding this info useful...
Commanderdata,
I'm on my phone right now and haven't had a chance to read everything you posted about VPN. Is there any way to use a VPN tunnel on an Airport Extreme Basestation for VNC with teleport? I'm already using no-ip and connecting outside my network.
Thanks
I'm on my phone right now and haven't had a chance to read everything you posted about VPN. Is there any way to use a VPN tunnel on an Airport Extreme Basestation for VNC with teleport? I'm already using no-ip and connecting outside my network.
Thanks
1) I also want to say thanks for the VPN info. I'm a complete noob when it comes to networking. Any suggestions on a cheap VPN router thats reliable?
2) I just want to say that everyone should be warned that even if you connect through from a remote WIFI location, it still takes a long time to download 1 screen frame. It worked lightning fast when I was close to my Macbook, but when I tried to show a friend a file while we were at work, his reaction was "you paid $25 for this??"
2) I just want to say that everyone should be warned that even if you connect through from a remote WIFI location, it still takes a long time to download 1 screen frame. It worked lightning fast when I was close to my Macbook, but when I tried to show a friend a file while we were at work, his reaction was "you paid $25 for this??"
Ok, back home...doesn't look like I can unless I buy a new router.
Thanks for the great info though
. . . so for some reason the app store is saying the lite version is no longer available . . .
Yeah, I encountered the same thing when I went to get it last night and again when I tried this morning.
I'll maintain some optimism and hope that it was pulled so the developer could put left mouse clicks into the Lite version.
Maybe they pulled it because it was useless, upset a lot of people that paid for the Lite version, and now that it was reduced to FREE, it wasn't making him money like the $24.99 version. I emailed him a nice email about the high price, some constructive suggestions, and never received an answer. I didn't really believe that I would though.
Apparently my dual 24" lcds at home are too much for my handheld; will have to configure it to only send one display.
As long as your desktop is on, the webcam feed is open and displaying on screen the Lite version will work to view it (you can't mouse click with Teleport Lite). Keep in mind the update rate on screen may be like molasses on EDGE.
Follow up question on the VPN issue: Can you use Hamachi X to set up a VPN with the iPhone? I have set it up on my computer but can't figure out how to get the iPhone to connect to the VPN. Thanks!
Lost?
Not the TV show, but the Teleport VNC Lite app in the App Store.
Granted, strange disappearing/reappearing acts are not uncommon to the Store, in my experience.
Regardless, I can't seem to find the Lite version.
Any love?
Not the TV show, but the Teleport VNC Lite app in the App Store.
Granted, strange disappearing/reappearing acts are not uncommon to the Store, in my experience.
Regardless, I can't seem to find the Lite version.
Any love?
Teleport/Jaado: Secure VPN tunnel to Home LAN Network
CommanderData: Hopefully you or someone can help. I purchased the cheaper Linksys WRV200 VPN router because I'm only using 1 EDGE connection when away so traffic stability shouldn't be a problem. Also I need wireless. The trouble is, I can't get the phone to connect to the tunnel after trying all weekend. Are you able to connect successfully using the RV042? If so, what settings are you using? I can't find any guides for connecting an iphone to a home vpn router anywhere!
The apple info pages aren't very helpful:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1424?viewlocale=en_US
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1288
Cisco says I need a super expensive VPN appliance with the latest software to use IPsec (sounds like iphone ipsec is very picky):
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/vpn_client/cisco_vpn_client/iPhone/2.0/connectivity/guide/iphone.html
So how are you getting the $200ish RV082 router to connect? What settings are you using? Are there any guides online? Also, what is the "group name" setting iphone IPsec section? It would be awesome if someone could post screenshots of there router setup pages and matching screenshots from their iphone too (with IP address/shared key info blurred of course). I'm so frustrasted by this and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for some VPN service.
Maybe I need a more expensive model like the LINKSYS WRV54G?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124026
CommanderData: Hopefully you or someone can help. I purchased the cheaper Linksys WRV200 VPN router because I'm only using 1 EDGE connection when away so traffic stability shouldn't be a problem. Also I need wireless. The trouble is, I can't get the phone to connect to the tunnel after trying all weekend. Are you able to connect successfully using the RV042? If so, what settings are you using? I can't find any guides for connecting an iphone to a home vpn router anywhere!
The apple info pages aren't very helpful:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1424?viewlocale=en_US
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1288
Cisco says I need a super expensive VPN appliance with the latest software to use IPsec (sounds like iphone ipsec is very picky):
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/vpn_client/cisco_vpn_client/iPhone/2.0/connectivity/guide/iphone.html
So how are you getting the $200ish RV082 router to connect? What settings are you using? Are there any guides online? Also, what is the "group name" setting iphone IPsec section? It would be awesome if someone could post screenshots of there router setup pages and matching screenshots from their iphone too (with IP address/shared key info blurred of course). I'm so frustrasted by this and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for some VPN service.
Maybe I need a more expensive model like the LINKSYS WRV54G?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124026
I am using the WRV100 and it works just fine. Two things...did you follow the instructions to the letter on Teleports website? and number two...did you install TightVNC service and No-IP? Some internet providers block IP's, did you contact your service provider and see if that port is blocked? And finally did you type your router IP into your internet browser address bar and activate the 5900 port under your gaming setting's tab?
The instructions on the website got me up and running AFTER I found out my old router was too old but the guys at Teleport helped me quickly and respond to emails normally within 30 min.
Apparently my dual 24" lcds at home are too much for my handheld; will have to configure it to only send one display.
It works... just slowly for me, with very low refresh rates!
If anyone's interested, it can handle 3840x1200 and display it all (unlike Mocha VNC) but it does refresh slowly, even on the same network.
Archer: Thanks for the response, but the instructions on Teleport's (http://www.jugaari.com) don't show how to set up a secure VPN tunnel. They only show how to setup no-ip.com to handle changing IP address from your ISP and how to forward port 5900 on your router. I have no problem setting all that up but it's not a secure method (See the last 2 pages of this thread). I'm trying to set up an encrypted VPN tunnel using the built-in iphone VPN client to my home's VPN router. That way I won't need to open port 5900 and all the transmissions will be encrypted.
Using teleport over edge/3g without a secure VPN is not recommended: http://www.macworld.com/article/134827/2008/08/teleportvnc.html
If someone has their iphone connected to their home VPN router I would love to know what model you're using and how you set it up. Thanks!
I would agree with the iPhone Cisco IPSec client being very picky! I am able to do IPSec connections from my iPhone to genuine Cisco hardware (ASA 5505's for example), but not on the RV082 (Linksys/Cisco). For the RV082 I've had to resort to a PPTP VPN connection from the iPhone. IPSec with pre-shared keys is even more secure (and a must for my clients), but for my home access PPTP is good enough.
I believe the WRV200 supports PPTP VPN connections, so you might want to try that. On the RV082 it's as simple as enabling the PPTP server and defining user(s) and passwords. On the iPhone I define a PPTP VPN, supply the external IP (or Dyndns / No-ip web address if you've set one up), set "Account" to be the user name you defined for the PPTP server, and leave encryption set to "Auto". As an added safety measure, I do not fill in the password. This means I have to type it every time I connect to the VPN, but no one can gain access to the various VPNs on my phone if I lose it.
If you have trouble trying PPTP can you supply pictures of the WRV200 configuration page?
I would agree with the iPhone Cisco IPSec client being very picky! I am able to do IPSec connections from my iPhone to genuine Cisco hardware (ASA 5505's for example), but not on the RV082 (Linksys/Cisco). For the RV082 I've had to resort to a PPTP VPN connection from the iPhone. IPSec with pre-shared keys is even more secure (and a must for my clients), but for my home access PPTP is good enough.
I believe the WRV200 supports PPTP VPN connections, so you might want to try that. On the RV082 it's as simple as enabling the PPTP server and defining user(s) and passwords. On the iPhone I define a PPTP VPN, supply the external IP (or Dyndns / No-ip web address if you've set one up), set "Account" to be the user name you defined for the PPTP server, and leave encryption set to "Auto". As an added safety measure, I do not fill in the password. This means I have to type it every time I connect to the VPN, but no one can gain access to the various VPNs on my phone if I lose it.
If you have trouble trying PPTP can you supply pictures of the WRV200 configuration page?
I think the WRV200 just supports 10 IPsec tunnels and L2TP/PPTP/IPSec passthrough. I didn't see any options for PPTP in the router setup but I'll look again tonight and maybe post some screens. What I might do is buy a DD-WRT compatible router since their firmware supports PPTP I believe. In the meantime I might just use the passthrough function on the router and see if I can get the built-in PPTP server in Vista Ultimate working - then I'll just have to figure out how to use VNC on the same machine.
DD-WRT VPN Support: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VPN
In the iphone PPTP settings, the Encryption Level option offers Auto, Maximum, and None. Why aren't you using Maximum? With "Auto" selected, how can you be sure it's not selecting "None" since "Maximum" isn't usable?
I think you may be right about the WRV200, and PPTP passthrough won't help you directly (unless you're running Windows XP/Vista at home and want to set up a PPTP Server connection for your iPhone to connect to). The RV042 and RV082 actually have a PPTP server built in.
My wording was odd in the post now that I re-read it, combining what I've done with what I was suggesting you try to do. What I meant is that you should set yours to Auto when you were attempting the PPTP connection to make things easier- there are generally 40, 56, and 128 bit keys used for this type of VPN. Yes, mine does connect at the Maximum encryption setting on PPTP, but yours may not. I have independently confirmed encryption of PPTP on the RV082 with Windows as well (where you can disallow connection if there is no encryption supplied by the server).
The DD-WRT implementation of PPTP sounds a bit dodgy after reading the link you posted. You should probably confirm that others have gotten it running on the same model number router you plan on using and that it does use encryption, because you can do PPTP without encryption (why you'd want to is beyond me).
My wording was odd in the post now that I re-read it, combining what I've done with what I was suggesting you try to do. What I meant is that you should set yours to Auto when you were attempting the PPTP connection to make things easier- there are generally 40, 56, and 128 bit keys used for this type of VPN. Yes, mine does connect at the Maximum encryption setting on PPTP, but yours may not. I have independently confirmed encryption of PPTP on the RV082 with Windows as well (where you can disallow connection if there is no encryption supplied by the server).
The DD-WRT implementation of PPTP sounds a bit dodgy after reading the link you posted. You should probably confirm that others have gotten it running on the same model number router you plan on using and that it does use encryption, because you can do PPTP without encryption (why you'd want to is beyond me).
Yeah I double checked and WRV200 has no PPTP options besides passthrough. I'm going to return it since it's no good to me. My old router does passthroughs. I was able to connect my iphone to Vista running as a PPTP VPN server just now but that's about it. I can't get Vista to pass along the internet and I can't access the local network. Sigh. Oh well, I'd rather not use Vista for that anyway.
It does support encryption...: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/PPTP_Server_Configuration
...but at the top of the page they warn:
And they link to this scary doc (from 2004) about how insecure PPTP is: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/protocol-security.phtml
Now I'm worried about PPTP but I guess it's better than nothing. What about the L2TP option on the phone? Do you know of any consumer routers that support that? It's the only remaining VPN option on the iphone we haven't discussed. Every router I've seen mentions L2TP passthrough but I don't see any support for it directly. I'll probably just end up using PPTP w/encryption via the DD-WRT firmware if I get it working...
Im sorry if this question has already been answered....is there any way to do the VPN technique as outlined by Commanderdata on a Airport Extreme Base Station?
I see settings for VPN in preferences...just don't know if it will allow secure access outside my network.
I see settings for VPN in preferences...just don't know if it will allow secure access outside my network.