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Does Apple CarKey allow you to remote lock and unlock without the app installed?

Good question, I think the Car Keys in your wallet work also remotely.

But if you run out of power in your device (phone or watch), I think it only works by tapping the phone to car RFID sensor. And that is only supported for 5 hours after running out of battery.

Can someone confirm?
 
The UWB system that is used in all current Teslas (save for the Y, which will be updated shortly), is technically equal to the Apple Car Key implementation.

I think there are following gaps:
  • Tesla app needs to be operational (correctly installed, logged in, and running in background)
  • Phone/watch needs to have battery left (Apple Car Keys work for 5 hours after running out of battery)
While they seem minor, they might limit you from:
  • Upgrading your iPhone to a beta (Tesla app might not yet be supported and not being able to use your Car during the beta period is not an option)
  • Leaving phone in car while going for a run with your Apple watch only (what if you run out of battery)
 
This 1000%.
People here who say they wont buy one because of CarPlay have clearly never used the Tesla system/interface.
I recently rented a car that had CarPlay and I absolutely HATED it compared to the Tesla system.
Talk about people being close minded. 🙄

I had a Tesla for four years am today driving BMW with wireless CarPlay. CarPlay wins hands down.
 
To start with - in EVs maps / route-planning without exactly knowing every detail about your battery capacity - SoC, Consumption, Climate, Temp,Tires,... - is complete useless - you NEED navigation with all your information about your car.

EV range estimation was added to CarPlay in 2023 (in vehicles where manufacturer supports it).
 
Again, someone with absolutely no experience commenting and making conclusions.
You should not read something into my post that simply isn't there. I replied to a poster who complained about the design of one of the discussed UI's and mentioned that the other UI would be more modern.

I then contributed my massive experience of driving cars and hinted that - in my humble opinion - a minimalist or at least reduced UI is preferable over a complex UI.

How you could read an attack onto your seemingly favorite car brand into my post is beyond me.

What was your post contributing to this thread again?
 
The interesting dynamic here from some posters can be best summed up best as actions have consequences but if one thinks the product is so superior to the completion, then forget about the consequences.

The number one rule in business is to never alienate your customers. As Jordan said it best, Republicans buy shoes too. Musk for whatever reason has alienated his core base, so now it comes down to having a superior product or shopper will go to the competition.
 
Why on earth should I have to interact with a touchscreen to open the boot in the first place?
Because a digital interface for such allows you to open and close it remotely/hands-free/for others, etc. You could literally open your locked boot for someone, when you are half-way around the world.
 
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Because a digital interface for such allows you to open and close it remotely/hands-free/for others, etc. You could literally open your locked boot for someone, when you are half-way around the world.
When you have to interact with a touchscreen, it’s not hands-free anymore.

Opening it remotely/for others is often already possible with the car key or a dedicated button inside the car (and sometimes additionally(!) via a smartphone/watch app). Most people probably wouldn’t want to open the trunk anyway, if they are not around.

So a touchscreen interaction may be a welcome _additional_ option, but if it becomes the _only_ option, imho it can be cumbersome and is more a cost-saving measure of the car maker to the detriment of the user.
 
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When you have to interact with a touchscreen, it’s not hands-free anymore.

Opening it remotely/for others is often already possible with the car key or a dedicated button inside the car (and sometimes additionally(!) via a smartphone/watch app). Most people probably wouldn’t want to open the trunk anyway, if they are not around.

So a touchscreen interaction may be a welcome _additional_ option, but if it becomes the _only_ option, imho it can be cumbersome and is more a cost-saving measure of the car maker to the detriment of the user.
You can use your voice, so it is hands-free.

How do you open it for others if you're out of range of the key fob? Many times I've been at a kid's sports practice and needed to send a kid to get something/put something inside the trunk. Too far away for a fob but still within sight. Digital only means I can open/close it from anywhere.

I own cars with both a physical button and screen-only. Give me screen-only, any day. I don't need 45 physical buttons sitting idle doing nothing. The trunk/frunk open/close buttons only appear on my touch screen when the car is in Park. As it should be.

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  • Apple maps - Not needed
  • Google maps (full)
  • Waze - Not needed, feature exists
  • Speed camera alerts without planning journey
  • Ability to zoom in further on route Already there
  • Ability for navigation to quieten music during instructions Already there
  • Ability for navigation to pause audiobooks during instructions
  • Speed aware dynamic volume adjustment
  • Spotify (full resolution) Already there
  • PlexAmp Already there
  • Prologue (audiobooks from Plex)
  • Siri voice recognition Not needed, car has its own, works way better than Siri
  • iMessage/sms reading and dictation - Already there
More accurate list. everything else is bloatware.
In Teslas, spoken navigation doesn't pause audio?
 
In Teslas, spoken navigation doesn't pause audio?
Unfortunately not. It’s pretty irritating.

Also, unlike CarPlay, switching navigation voice on/off is within a menu hidden behind a fairly small button that’s difficult to touch while driving.

Personally though, omissions and annoyances aside, it’s a pretty decent system. It’s never going to improve though whilst social media darlings keep saying how perfect it all is.

I love my Tesla. It’s an excellent car. But perfect it is not.
 
here to comment on the whole musk thing. sure, I wish he had different political views, but that didn't stop me from buying a model Y 2 months go. we absolutely love the car. it's a dual motor and really gets going when we want, so much fun. the re-gen braking is something you have to experience for yourself, so convenient to never have to pick your foot up off the floor board. we especially love plugging it in overnight and waking up to a "full tank" everyday. like every. day. those gas stations are a thing of the past, except for a hot dog from QT every now and then. and above all, it's wonderful to know my 2 year old is riding in one of the safest vehicles. I sense that she loves looking outside the glass roof, as she chuckles and laughs at things during the ride. see? musk had no influence on my little story you just read.
 
Do we know when it will be released?
If musk offered you lot Moaning a free Tesla you would all bite his hand off,free speech is a wonderful thing be careful what you wish for 😉
 
Unfortunately not. It’s pretty irritating.

Also, unlike CarPlay, switching navigation voice on/off is within a menu hidden behind a fairly small button that’s difficult to touch while driving.

Personally though, omissions and annoyances aside, it’s a pretty decent system. It’s never going to improve though whilst social media darlings keep saying how perfect it all is.

I love my Tesla. It’s an excellent car. But perfect it is not.
So what prevents it from pausing audio? As someone who considered a Tesla for my last car and didn't get one, they seem to not do a lot of things that are basic for a Kia.
 
So what prevents it from pausing audio? As someone who considered a Tesla for my last car and didn't get one, they seem to not do a lot of things that are basic for a Kia.
While the self important social media darlings bang on to Tesla that it’s the perfect system things like this don’t get communicated or improved.
 
So what prevents it from pausing audio? As someone who considered a Tesla for my last car and didn't get one, they seem to not do a lot of things that are basic for a Kia.
At this point I think the assumption is you would let FSD drive you and mute navigation audio as to why they haven't implemented pause when navigation is speaking.
 
FSD isn't a thing outside the US.
"Yet"


I'm not saying I agree with Tesla's position. I think you should have to option to either pause or lower the volume (as it does now).


EDIT: or make it smart and pause audible/podcasts and lower the volume for the other inputs
 
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