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Tevosn said:
I’m not buying a Tesla for various reasons. Not having car play is one , but mainly I just dislike musk.
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Weird reason to deny yourself the opportunity to enjoy a product that could offer quite a bit of convenience to your daily life. I always wonder where the line is for people such as yourself. Like say you or a loved one had terminal cancer and one of his companies developed the only cure, something tells me you’d be getting over your feelings about him real quick…
 
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markol said:
This 1000%.
People here who say they wont buy one because of CarPlay have clearly never used the Tesla system/interface.
I recently rented a car that had CarPlay and I absolutely HATED it compared to the Tesla system.
Talk about people being close minded. 🙄
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What did you not like about CarPlay? What DO you like about Tesla's system/interface?
 
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miamialley said:
What did you not like about CarPlay? What DO you like about Tesla's system/interface?
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To start with - in EVs maps / route-planning without exactly knowing every detail about your battery capacity - SoC, Consumption, Climate, Temp,Tires,... - is complete useless - you NEED navigation with all your information about your car.

And to end with - Tesla GUI looks like 2024 - while Carplay GUI looks like atari 1985 ;)
 
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ThomasPicard said:
And to end with - Tesla GUI looks like 2024 - while Carplay GUI looks like atari 1985 ;)
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I don't know the Tesla GUI, but in general during driving I prefer a simple GUI to distract less from the actual driving process.

In that respect, a "1985" GUI seems more minimalist and thus preferable for a car than a complex "2024" GUI with a lot of bells and whistles that requires much more processing and thus takes away attention from the street.
 
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Neodym said:
I don't know the Tesla GUI, but in general during driving I prefer a simple GUI to distract less from the actual driving process.

In that respect, a "1985" GUI seems more minimalist and thus preferable for a car than a complex "2024" GUI with a lot of bells and whistles that requires much more processing and thus takes away attention from the street.
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I’m on my third Tesla since 2017. I’ve driven and tried many other cars. But I can’t change simply due to Tesla’s superior Infotainment and control system. A functional app and keyless feature.

Tesla’s GUI is very simplistic and feature rich, and yet very intuitive (if one has ever used a smart phone).

My issues with CarPlay on other cars are:
- Lag and delay (!!!).
- Small screen and too zoomed in.
- Charge stations overview on map or along the route.
- No integration with the cars core info (i.e. Battery %).
 
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miamialley said:
What did you like about Tesla over CarPlay?
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The UI is designed specifically for its 15" screen in terms of size/scaling, and multi-function layout, including native car functionality.

CarPlay is an overlay on the (typically small) screen. And only contains its narrow set of functionality. For example, you're listening to media through CarPlay but you want to change the Tone/EQ? You have to switch back out to the car's UI to get those controls.
 
stiligFox said:
That's the thing. Tesla needs to part with Musk sooner rather than later. It's anecdotal for sure, but I know quite a few people that no longer are interested in Tesla cars due to his involvement. They have good teams and were a pioneer in making EV mainstream but he's hampering any goodwill they built.

That and his demands for cost saving measures and odd engineering requirements means the quality of the product is starting to suffer. He's sort of the opposite of Steve Jobs - Steve would tell people the product needs to do something this or make valuable inputs (like saying the iPod could be smaller because it had air bubbles coming out when dropped in water, if that story is true) in ways that actually made sense, and let the engineers figure it out, whereas Elon steps in and makes suggestions/demands that leaves the engineers trying to steer him away from said "suggestions..."
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80% of actual company owners (ie stockholders) chose to approve his pay package in 2018, and 80% also chose to re-confirm that pay package in 2024. Which is a de facto ratification of their approval for his employment as CEO.

The funny thing is, people like you buy into all sorts of lore about Jobs -- who is not an engineer (though Woz is) -- but simultaneously discredit Musk for everything despite him being involved in multiple technical companies.

And you do this "from the sidelines". Whereas the actual people who have economic interest in the company, who need to scrutinize the company's operations carefully, who are incentivized to make decisions that affects the company because it affects their investment... they seem to be okay with him on board.

Or they can just listen to some guy's anecdotes. Makes sense.
 
thettareddast said:
The UI is designed specifically for its 15" screen in terms of size/scaling, and multi-function layout, including native car functionality.

CarPlay is an overlay on the (typically small) screen. And only contains its narrow set of functionality. For example, you're listening to media through CarPlay but you want to change the Tone/EQ? You have to switch back out to the car's UI to get those controls.
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Again, yes... and no.

The Tesla UI is a weird mix of differently designed elements. Some work really well, others less so. There are a handful of very small buttons that you have to reach far over to the edge of the screen to use. This is especially so on right-hand drive vehicles where the screen layout isn't optimised particularly well.

I don't know of anyone saying CarPlay should replace Tesla's system. It should augment it. We don't need to see a pretty picture of our car, along with wheelie bins and traffic cones. Let us close that panel and have CarPlay there instead.
 
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Arsenikdote said:
I would also add Audible as that is the primary source of audio I consume in my car.
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Audible is now available and works pretty well, or as well as any of the services in the car. Unfortunately, unlike CarPlay, it doesn't automatically pause/resume when navigation instructions are given so you hear both at the same time. It's the little things like this in CarPlay that have been thought through.
 
Neodym said:
I don't know the Tesla GUI, but in general during driving I prefer a simple GUI to distract less from the actual driving process.

In that respect, a "1985" GUI seems more minimalist and thus preferable for a car than a complex "2024" GUI with a lot of bells and whistles that requires much more processing and thus takes away attention from the street.
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Again, someone with absolutely no experience commenting and making conclusions.
 
BeatCrazy said:
You really can't multitask with CarPlay like you can with the Tesla UI. Want to pop your trunk or check your tire pressure while you're listening to Apple Music? You're going to be pressing a lot of buttons, and you may even get pushed out of the CarPlay UI.
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Why on earth should I have to interact with a touchscreen to open the boot in the first place?
 
page3 said:
Yes, and no.

What’s missing from Tesla’s system compared to CarPlay-
  • Apple maps
  • Google maps (full)
  • Waze
  • Speed camera alerts without planning journey
  • Ability to zoom in further on route
  • Ability for navigation to quieten music during instructions
  • Ability for navigation to pause audiobooks during instructions
  • Speed aware dynamic volume adjustment
  • Spotify (full resolution)
  • PlexAmp
  • Prologue (audiobooks from Plex)
  • Siri voice recognition
  • iMessage/sms reading and dictation
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  • Apple maps - Not needed
  • Google maps (full)
  • Waze - Not needed, feature exists
  • Speed camera alerts without planning journey
  • Ability to zoom in further on route Already there
  • Ability for navigation to quieten music during instructions Already there
  • Ability for navigation to pause audiobooks during instructions
  • Speed aware dynamic volume adjustment
  • Spotify (full resolution) Already there
  • PlexAmp Already there
  • Prologue (audiobooks from Plex)
  • Siri voice recognition Not needed, car has its own, works way better than Siri
  • iMessage/sms reading and dictation - Already there
More accurate list. everything else is bloatware.
 
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Vulkan said:
  • Apple maps - Not needed
  • Google maps (full)
  • Waze - Not needed, feature exists
  • Speed camera alerts without planning journey
  • Ability to zoom in further on route Already there
  • Ability for navigation to quieten music during instructions Already there
  • Ability for navigation to pause audiobooks during instructions
  • Speed aware dynamic volume adjustment
  • Spotify (full resolution) Already there
  • PlexAmp Already there
  • Prologue (audiobooks from Plex)
  • Siri voice recognition Not needed, car has its own, works way better than Siri
  • iMessage/sms reading and dictation - Already there
More accurate list. everything else is bloatware.
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They’re my requirements, and CarPlay offers them all.

Full Map zoom, music navigation volume reduction, Spotify full resolution and PlexAmp integration definitely not there. Certainly not on my car.

Tesla voice recognition is laughably bad. Especially in Europe.

Even so, I love my Tesla. But I’m not blind to where improvements can be made.
 
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