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A proprietary app to unlock a car? When Apple already developed car keys that go in the Wallet? Musk is clueless.
 
Apples maps doesn’t, but Google Maps does have satellite view in CarPlay (and you don’t have to pay for it).

I’ve heard that the Apple Music app in Teslas doesn’t show you your complete playlists, but rather, only the first number of songs. Is that true?
Shows initial 100 as best I can tell.
 
That'll teach him. I bet he won't sleep tonight.

No on is "teaching a lesson" you are just trying to sound clever at someone else's expense.

A person is making a choice as a consumer on where to spend their money. It matters. One consumer does not alter the outcome of a company the size of Tesla, but market trends are made up of a lot of "one consumer" elements. The billions of dollars a year spent to influence "one consumer" on how/where to spend their money says it is actually a VERY important decision.
 
Tesla's system is far superior than Apple CarPlay
Categorical statements about technologies like this are bad 😏


Unlocking with the Apple Watch would be a wellcome addition to the already great iOS integration.

And to all those who want Car Play - why? - did you ever own an Tesla?
This would be absolutely no benefit, because the onboard Software is absolutely great - and works perfect with the apple ecosystem.
CarPlay is only meant for cars with really bad software - eg like VW, Mercedes, BMW & Co - there I always use CarPlay, because it is far superior - but absolutely no need for it in a Tesla.
I have owned a Tesla and I will say that elements of it work great, other elements of it work "great" or at least good enough. However, it doesn't do everything I am looking for. The issue doesn't have to be "either/or" but Tesla's choice to not adopt CarPlay makes it either/or. I would prefer both/and. This wasn't the only reason I sold my Tesla, but it was certainly part of the decision making process.

This right here. In my household, we have a G01 BMW X3 (used to be mine, spouse drives it now) that has wireless CarPlay. I have a Tesla. There's no chance I'd give up the Tesla UI, in favor of CarPlay.

When you look at CarPlay from an objective lens, it's actually rather limited compared modern Tesla software. You really can't multitask with CarPlay like you can with the Tesla UI. Want to pop your trunk or check your tire pressure while you're listening to Apple Music? You're going to be pressing a lot of buttons, and you may even get pushed out of the CarPlay UI.
I have used both and feel pretty objective since I only care about the software making my life better, not who it comes from. I could give to #$@% if it comes from Tesla, Apple, Audi, etc.... But the things you like are not the universal list of things that people care about. A good example is see Page3's response below. He cares about stuff that didn't make your list. From an "objective" point of view, Tesla does some stuff good, some stuff not good. Apple is the same. The only reason we are not allowed to have all of it is because of Tesla's choice which is objectively bad for consumers but good for Tesla.

Different strokes. I've become very fond of the minimalism approach, and getting into any other car now seems like a sea of useless buttons, many of which will literally never be touched by human hands.
Different strokes also applies to the software experience of the vehicle, correct?

Yes, and no.

What’s missing from Tesla’s system compared to CarPlay-
  • Apple maps
  • Google maps (full)
  • Waze
  • Speed camera alerts without planning journey
  • Ability to zoom in further on route
  • Ability for navigation to quieten music during instructions
  • Ability for navigation to pause audiobooks during instructions
  • Speed aware dynamic volume adjustment
  • Spotify (full resolution)
  • PlexAmp
  • Prologue (audiobooks from Plex)
  • Siri voice recognition
  • iMessage/sms reading and dictation

I would also add Audible as that is the primary source of audio I consume in my car. When I got my Model X in 2017 it was Bluetooth only....bluetooth...the tech that was introduced to cars in early 2000's.... So Tesla is supposed to be a "tech" company but they force me to use Bluetooth or other workarounds to use any app they haven't been bothered to build something for when a totally good solution of letting CarPlay/Android Auto occupy part of the screen would solve the problem. Evidently Tesla is FINALLY getting an Audible app, but for me too little to late, I have happily been using the Audible app through CarPlay for six years and have no regrets.

Also I would add to the list of things that I don't enjoy about Tesla not offering their software AND CarPlay/Android Auto.....Calendar and Task integration without giving up on privacy. This is also VERY important to my daily workflow and I am not going to allow Tesla to mine data on me just so I can see something on the car screen. Another issues of being good for Tesla and bad for consumers. Not faulting them, they are a business who is trying to make money, but it also doesn't mean that their software meets all needs and that CarPlay/Android Auto doesn't still have a place in the mix.
 
When I got my Model X in 2017 it was Bluetooth only....bluetooth...the tech that was introduced to cars in early 2000's....
Interesting! My 2011 Audi already offered a WLan connection inside the car, allowing for high-quality wireless audio. Wonder why Tesla would limit themselves to Bluetooth still in 2017.
 
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Interesting! My 2011 Audi already offered a WLan connection inside the car, allowing for high-quality wireless audio. Wonder why Tesla would limit themselves to Bluetooth still in 2017.
I don't know for sure. However, in my experience Tesla seems to be like Apple in the sense that they expect their users to do it the way they deem "proper" and if you deviate from that then you pay the price. In the end, while I sipped on the kool aid for a while, there was just too much that screamed "BETA" about the entire experience. I chose to get out while I could still get a good value from the vehicle and haven't looked back since.
 
Different strokes. I've become very fond of the minimalism approach, and getting into any other car now seems like a sea of useless buttons, many of which will literally never be touched by human hands.
Using a vertical touch interface while you are driving seems like a poor idea when you can use knobs and buttons by feel.

The voice commands (which are excellent in a Tesla, if relatively simple) help with that, but since I went back to a regular vehicle, I am so happy to have buttons (and an engine that roars like a dragon).
 
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There are ways to get CarPlay
No, you mean there are janky workarounds to get something approximating the experience of supported CarPlay.

The Tesla mapping solution is better than iOS's, at least in my opinion.

I didn't miss CarPlay so much when I had a Tesla--I missed the Podcast app (which came after I got rid of my last Elon-Mobile).
 
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Using a vertical touch interface while you are driving seems like a poor idea when you can use knobs and buttons by feel.

The voice commands (which are excellent in a Tesla, if relatively simple) help with that, but since I went back to a regular vehicle, I am so happy to have buttons (and an engine that roars like a dragon).
Better get used to it... all modern cars are moving to screens.
 
This will be a welcome and overdue addition. Hope it works as well as the "Watch for Tesla" app I've been using. It's been great for locking/unlocking my car while out on runs and no subscription, just a one time purchase.
 
When I am running - I don't take my iPhone with me - too bulky - and only have my AppleWatch Ultra (with SIM) an my Airpods - my iPhone stays with BT turned off in the car.

Until now I always take my keycard with me - thats not a problem - but using my Watch to unlock would be even much better :)

A key is only useful if it works 100% of the time. If only 99.9%, then one needs to take the keycard as a reliable backup.

It is a pity Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key that would work reliably: works on the watchOS directly (so if there is app update or login problem, it still works); works if the watch runs out of battery.

Anyone knows why Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key?
 
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A key is only useful if it works 100% of the time. If only 99.9%, then one needs to take the keycard as a reliable backup.

It is a pity Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key that would work reliably: works on the watchOS directly (so if there is app update or login problem, it still works); works if the watch runs out of battery.

Anyone knows why Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key?
I wonder if they can use both key types and what they would have to change car side for the support.

I've never had the phone key not work, even when I had no service and/or the car has no service. The only "fear" would be a dead phone, not that I have had that happen unexpectedly in quite a few years now.

Does Apple CarKey allow you to remote lock and unlock without the app installed?
 
And I suppose you would never stoop to using Starling for internet access, Open AI, PayPal, or any medical technology developed on the ISS that had been delivered using a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket either. All created by evil Elon.

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None of that does anything to counter the fact that he's a giant Dbag. Rich person is rich... So what? He's a dick
 
A key is only useful if it works 100% of the time. If only 99.9%, then one needs to take the keycard as a reliable backup.

It is a pity Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key that would work reliably: works on the watchOS directly (so if there is app update or login problem, it still works); works if the watch runs out of battery.

Anyone knows why Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key?
The UWB system that is used in all current Teslas (save for the Y, which will be updated shortly), is technically equal to the Apple Car Key implementation.
 
I've been using Watch for Tesla which has been working great as a backup when I forget to bring my phone.

As for Carplay vs Tesla, I currently prefer the Tesla approach with the following improvements but not deal killers.

- Better quality for Spotify
- Plex
- Waze support or data for speed traps and other traffic events
 
A key is only useful if it works 100% of the time. If only 99.9%, then one needs to take the keycard as a reliable backup.

It is a pity Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key that would work reliably: works on the watchOS directly (so if there is app update or login problem, it still works); works if the watch runs out of battery.

Anyone knows why Tesla has chosen not to implement Apple Car Key?
I don't know, but I exclusively used my iPhone as a "key" for my last Tesla. Then I went to pick up my 15 pro. I figured I would just download an icloud backup at home, as the Apple Store's wi-fi was SLAMMED on launch day.

But, um, well, the Tesla key was attached to the phone, which was not active (or at least had not downloaded a back up of my last phone).

Didn't really think that one through.
 
This has been a no go for me. That and Elon is a POS
So edgy! But even though the founders of Ford and many German automakers were much bigger meanies, I’m guessing that was long enough ago that you’d consider their products if they were compelling to you?
 
Tesla's system is far superior than Apple CarPlay
This 1000%.
People here who say they wont buy one because of CarPlay have clearly never used the Tesla system/interface.
I recently rented a car that had CarPlay and I absolutely HATED it compared to the Tesla system.
Talk about people being close minded. 🙄
 
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