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Altis

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Has been happening with x.0 releases for years.

Unfortunately, the x.0 release can be as long as half a year... in other words, half the time you own the phone you'll have bugs and poor performance.

Or, they could let you downgrade to the previous version that worked well.

iOS 9 has been pretty bad on my iPhone 6 so far. The thing that kills me though is how long the touchscreen and home button go unresponsive for during and after every animation.

There's no reason apps like Settings and Messages should be any slower now than the were on a 3GS back in the day.
 
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C DM

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Unfortunately, the x.0 release can be as long as half a year... in other words, half the time you own the phone you'll have bugs and poor performance.

Or, they could let you downgrade to the previous version that worked well.

iOS 9 has been pretty bad on my iPhone 6 so far. The thing that kills me though is how long the touchscreen and home button go unresponsive for during and after every animation.

There's no reason apps like Settings and Messages should be any slower now than the were on a 3GS back in the day.
Agreed and all certainly unfortunate things. They've been like this for years and nothing really has changed despite dozens upon dozens of similar threads every year. Perhaps it might have gotten a bit better in respect to updates as iOS 8 had them out quicker and it looks like iOS 9 might be following that type of pattern too. But overall, it's all basically the simple reality of what it's like, as unfortunate as that is. It seems that with iOS 9 there are less people that are having bigger issues, so that's somewhat of an improvement at least.
 

RebornProphet

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And the same token, it seems to be a lot of focus on the occasional glitch rather than the entire o/s being better. So don't marginalize that some of us can look at the entire o/s and appreciate how much better iOS 9 is than iOS 8.

iOS 9 is a better OS yes. It's simply suffering the usual .0 release stutter and glitches. These little stutters, while not noticeable to some do annoy some people. The overall user experience is what I look for, beyond features and app performance. The odd stutter can detract, especially when you didn't have them before, albeit on a more mature OS.

The counter to that is that some are so picky and obsessive, they are seeing things that aren't there.

What an incredibly arrogant point of view. I can accept that there are people who don't see the UI being fluid as important.

Yes, iOS 9 is a far better OS albeit the iPad benefits far more than the iPhone. I'm not seeing things that aren't there, I notice that RIGHT NOW there are stutters in the UI transitions from time to time. As I've said to you before, they're not constant but they do occur. When your eyes are used to a fluid UI and mid animation a stutter jumps in there, it's noticeable. You told me not to marginalise people in the first post I quote and then do exactly that to suit your own argument in the next post.

I've engaged in conversation with you previously and we both agreed iOS 9 is by far a better .0 release than both 7 and 8 were. If you don't put importance on UI fluidity then fine, that's your prerogative. I enjoy the smooth and seamless UI transitions at ALL times and I'm sure iOS 9 will get there in time, in fact again as I've said previously iOS 9.1 in beta 4 does seem to improve the overall performance over 9.0.2.

This is the last I'm posting on this matter, simply because there's no more you or I can say that will be any different to what's gone before. I have no desire to play this forum merry-go-round game any longer.
 

I7guy

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iOS 9 is a better OS yes. It's simply suffering the usual .0 release stutter and glitches. These little stutters, while not noticeable to some do annoy some people. The overall user experience is what I look for, beyond features and app performance. The odd stutter can detract, especially when you didn't have them before, albeit on a more mature OS.



What an incredibly arrogant point of view. I can accept that there are people who don't see the UI being fluid as important.

Yes, iOS 9 is a far better OS albeit the iPad benefits far more than the iPhone. I'm not seeing things that aren't there, I notice that RIGHT NOW there are stutters in the UI transitions from time to time. As I've said to you before, they're not constant but they do occur. When your eyes are used to a fluid UI and mid animation a stutter jumps in there, it's noticeable. You told me not to marginalise people in the first post I quote and then do exactly that to suit your own argument in the next post.

I've engaged in conversation with you previously and we both agreed iOS 9 is by far a better .0 release than both 7 and 8 were. If you don't put importance on UI fluidity then fine, that's your prerogative. I enjoy the smooth and seamless UI transitions at ALL times and I'm sure iOS 9 will get there in time, in fact again as I've said previously iOS 9.1 in beta 4 does seem to improve the overall performance over 9.0.2.

This is the last I'm posting on this matter, simply because there's no more you or I can say that will be any different to what's gone before. I have no desire to play this forum merry-go-round game any longer.
Really now. You think it's arrogant considering "observations" about my ability to see "stutter or lag". Interesting.
 

RebornProphet

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Are you the guy in this video who doesn't notice anything either?

The lag is even noticeable on that video during Spotlight when he swipes down and then when he presses the home button to dismiss it. Stutter when he scrolls through Apple Music and YouTube is also extremely noticeable. How can the guy in the video NOT see that?
 
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Radon87000

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Nope, not me. But I think this conversation is really about done with nothing much more constructive to be said except for picking sides and having at it.
Lol.Its a damn video and yet I can clearly see stutter in spotlight and Apple Music.
 

CupertinoSlave

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I didn't look at the video and I didn't comment on it. I'm not going so far as to post a video of my own Idevices to "prove" my own devices are running smoothly.
Can you at least point out in the video where you see the lag, I just want to see if you know what it is.
 

vertsix

macrumors 68000
Aug 12, 2015
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Here. Hopefully this will prove my point to everyone that 9.0.2 is clearly slower on pretty much every way (closing and opening apps, scrolling, boot times, etc.)


You can notice the lag at certain spots: Messages, App Switcher, Spotlight Search, and Control Center. AND, he's using a nearly fresh version of 9.0.2 and 8.4.1.

There's the proof. There's absolutely no way in the denying it.

Thank you and have a nice day. :)
 

Will22

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Are you the guy in this video who doesn't notice anything either?

I got as far as the YouTube bit and seeing the stuttering in it and the music app I think that guy drank too many beers before doing the video. If he thinks that 9.1 is much better than 9 then I wonder how bad iOS 9 was for him.
 
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I7guy

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Here. Hopefully this will prove my point to everyone that 9.0.2 is clearly slower on pretty much every way (closing and opening apps, scrolling, boot times, etc.)


You can notice the lag at certain spots: Messages, App Switcher, Spotlight Search, and Control Center. AND, he's using a nearly fresh version of 9.0.2 and 8.4.1.

There's the proof.

Thank you and have a nice day. :)
It is virtually impossible to hit both screens at the same time with the precision needed. If you look closely on some tests the finger hits the screen on the left side before the right side. The amount of difference between the two was somewhat nullified by the fact it's very difficult to do a test like that. Yes I did notice momentary stutter in messages and some other uses being slightly slower, but this is like fighting over how many angels can fit on the head of pin. For most of us the ARS link showed that IOS 9 is faster, a big component being the update javascript engine; which for anybody who surfs using their mobile device will get the benefit.
 

Tamagotchi

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Jun 13, 2013
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ITT Apple Apologists vs. Apple Critics

And, yes. I agree with OP. Apple has Fckd up my iPhone 6 Plus. To those apologists to say to restore. I've fully restored this crap like 10 times already, tried a million things like turning off spotlight etc, and nothing works. It's just lazy bad coding by Apple, and apologists who can't be objective and confess this was a bad update.

Restore > Setup as new. If that doesn't help, go to the Apple Store.

My iPhone doesn't lag, like for tens of millions other users that don't even know about this forum. You don't see them, all you see is topics with people having problems, which is fine given the nature of this forum. Stop blowing things out of proportion.

You are such an ignorant. Why would someone who had a perfectly smooth running phone with 8.4.2 go to the Apple Store? It's a software problem with iOS 9, not hardware.
 
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C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Here. Hopefully this will prove my point to everyone that 9.0.2 is clearly slower on pretty much every way (closing and opening apps, scrolling, boot times, etc.)


You can notice the lag at certain spots: Messages, App Switcher, Spotlight Search, and Control Center. AND, he's using a nearly fresh version of 9.0.2 and 8.4.1.

There's the proof. There's absolutely no way in the denying it.

Thank you and have a nice day. :)
The "proof" that an unscientific anecdotal individual obeservation applies to everyone the same exact way?
 

CupertinoSlave

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The "proof" that an unscientific anecdotal individual obeservation applies to everyone the same exact way?
Do you honestly believe the experience on the same exact hardware and software varies that much? Do you know anything about technology? (not trying to be rude)
 

chevalier433

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Mar 30, 2011
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is this a joke..? people still believe this.? people think hardware doesnt age.? not like the iphone 6 is "slow/freezing/stuttering/locking up/etc" anyway, unstable android? have u even used an android like gingerbread..?

so many questions..
Your comment is a joke.My iPad has all this issues.If the hardware is old maybe they need to be more careful in the model list that can install it,to have a good experience.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Do you honestly believe the experience on the same exact hardware and software varies that much? Do you know anything about technology? (not trying to be rude)
Yes I believe the variability. I used to design embedded operating systems so I know a thing or two about technology. With hundreds of millions of Idevices there is bound to be differences over the same device, same software level that can't explain the differences.
 
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C DM

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Do you honestly believe the experience on the same exact hardware and software varies that much? Do you know anything about technology? (not trying to be rude)
Theories are nice but the reality is clearly different given that some people obviously post various real issues (beyond trivial stuttering in a few places) when many obviously don't have them. You honestly can say that when someone has an issue everyone one has the same issue to the same degree? Reality simply doesn't support that.
 
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Black Magic

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Theories are nice but the reality is clearly different given that some people obviously post various real issues (beyond trivial stuttering in a few places) when many obviously don't have them. You honestly can say that when someone has an issue everyone one has the same issue to the same degree? Reality simply doesn't support that.

I agree. Some folks act like some hardware can't become defective over time or is right out the gates. Some times iOS updates expose a faulty component. Performance can be very different because the software I have installed on my phone is different from yours. That's not even factoring in how we use our devices differently.
 

flux73

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Not sure why this thread is so long. People, it's pretty simple. If you have a problem with iOS 9, rollback to iOS 8. Hope you backed up your phone.

More features means more code means more processor utilization. New OS's will generally be slower than the older one on the same hardware - that's true 90% of the time. Not sure what the big shock is. However, a millisecond or two isn't enough to make my phone unusable or even unpleasant to use. The stutter I had when I first installed it went away after a day. I suspect it was the Spotlight indexing - something that most people still forget to take into account when they upgrade their OS.
 
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