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Radon87000

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So occasional trivial animation inconsistency is then worse than an OS itself not performing well? That's certainly a standard to live up to.
Windows only runs slow on very low or mediocre hardware.If you take high end spec machines only a year old they don't lag.Period.Unless you download all kinds of crap on them
 

Prabas

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Instead of whining here, report every single issue to Apple, because tearing up here won't do any good.
 

Sekelani

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Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues with my 1 year old iPhone 6 Plus?
Even after the release of iOS 9, I still have a steady phone. It's not perfect but the Op is making the phone sound like its crippled.
 
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wbrat

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How can people not see stutter when pulling up the control center in the lock screen on their iPhone 6S? I guess it comes down to the debate about 30 fps vs 60 fps. some people just cant see the difference.

So you guys are defining "shutter" as decrease of fps from 60 to 30? This is what you mean by shutter? Really? So maybe Apple should fix the framerate at 30 fps - then it will be smooth all the time... ;)
 
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newellj

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This thread needs some perspective. Here are some real world lag problems.

Toilets. I flush the toilet and it takes 10-15 seconds to clear the bowl. Then it takes several minutes to refill the tank. I shouldn't have to wait for this kind of toilet lag.

Cars. Depending on which of our cars I'm in, it takes anywhere from 8 to 20 seconds to get to 60mph and much longer to get to top speed. This is another example of unacceptable lag. If I put my foot on the accelerator, I expect to be at top speed, RIGHT NOW.

Microwave ovens. Why the **** should it take five minutes to cook a frozen dinner? Yet another example of laggy tech. Put it in, press the button, it should be hot instantly, no waiting.

We need better tech. Right now.

:rolleyes:
 

I7guy

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We don't "play" with things so we notice them. We notice a reduction in the smoothness in which the UI operates. When these dropped frames are instantly noticeable, it detracts from the user experience. iOS built its reputation on a fluid and smooth UI, that is undeniable. Don't write off people's experiences just because you don't care about the UI. Thankfully 9.1 beta 4 fixes most of the stutter.
And the same token, it seems to be a lot of focus on the occasional glitch rather than the entire o/s being better. So don't marginalize that some of us can look at the entire o/s and appreciate how much better iOS 9 is than iOS 8.
 
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CupertinoSlave

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So you guys are defining "shutter" as decrease of fps from 60 to 30? This is what you mean by shutter? Really? So maybe Apple should fix the framerate at 30 fps - then it will be smooth all the time... ;)
Wow if you don't see an issue in that then you have no input of this subject. I doubt you can even tell the difference in framerates.
 

Act3

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My phones don't "lag" either. And yes Windows can stutter even on high end hardware.

true that windows can stutter, however it takes alot more than running a message app to cause windows to stutter
 

C DM

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Windows only runs slow on very low or mediocre hardware.If you take high end spec machines only a year old they don't lag.Period.Unless you download all kinds of crap on them
So basically different people can have issues with Windows too...seems like iOS is living up to the standard that Windows has apparently set that some are so wishful to apply to iOS as well.
 

C DM

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Wow if you don't see an issue in that then you have no input of this subject. I doubt you can even tell the difference in framerates.
Yet it also kind of says something about the general severity/impact of that issue.
 

Radon87000

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The counter to that is that some are so picky and obsessive, they are seeing things that aren't there.
Dude that's some serious case of denial.Turn on Reduce Transparency and reduce motion and then check out the control centre.Its a silky smooth 60 fps and was exactly the same on iOS 8.After seeing that level of smoothness this feels like it's running at 30 frames or so.In the app switcher it's literally stuttering.With reduce motion On there is no black screen while launching Chrome.It starts instantly like it did on iOS 8.Now Chrome takes 3 seconds to get ready.

It's not being obsessive when the performance disparity between 8 and 9 is clearly visible.Hell my Air 2 with a A8X which has MacBook class performance frequently stutters in the app switcher
 

Leonard1818

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My main gripe a few pages ago was my battery life decrease on my iPhone 6 after iOS 9 (and 9.0.1 and 9.0.2). Yeah, I don't like the app switcher either but nothing else is really *that* drastically different.

Magically, 2 days ago, my battery started behaving much better than it did initially. I have no idea what changed. I know that sometimes they do work on our local cell tower and it can cause some signal disruption but I didn't see anything happening with it. I also sit at home on wifi all day (no, not in mom's basement, in my home office that I built) so that's not a huge variable.

I've heard of indexing that happens when you upgrade iOS or restore a backup on a new device, etc. but I wouldn't think it took a full week to index my phone. Honestly, I'm not sure what changed but I'm glad my battery is performing normally again. It's too soon to see whether it's actually BETTER like some of the claims state but for now, I'm OK with iOS 9 again.
 

I7guy

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Dude that's some serious case of denial.Turn on Reduce Transparency and reduce motion and then check out the control centre.Its a silky smooth 60 fps and was exactly the same on iOS 8.After seeing that level of smoothness this feels like it's running at 30 frames or so.In the app switcher it's literally stuttering.With reduce motion On there is no black screen while launching Chrome.It starts instantly like it did on iOS 8.Now Chrome takes 3 seconds to get ready.

It's not being obsessive when the performance disparity between 8 and 9 is clearly visible.Hell my Air 2 with a A8X which has MacBook class performance frequently stutters in the app switcher
You're telling me I have a case of denial? That's rich! :oops: I dislike animations and I have all of that stuff turned down as much as possible. However, as this thread was developing I turned the animations and wall paper on, on my 5s, and no difference. Maybe there are one or two places that exhibit some animation anomaly, but I look at the big picture. I haven't noticed issues in the control center, weather app, swiping screens etc. I'll grant you with all the different devices from a 4s to s 6s and and iPad 2 to an iPad air 2, different use cases could result in different outcomes and different perceptions.

However a blanket statement that iOS 9 is slower than iOS 8 across every device, in every nook and cranny, every app is just patently false.
 
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Radon87000

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You're telling me I have a case of denial? That's rich! :oops: I dislike animations and I have all of that stuff turned down as much as possible. However, as this thread was developing I turned the animations and wall paper on, on my 5s, and no difference. Maybe there are one or two places that exhibit some animation anomaly, but I look at the big picture. I haven't noticed issues in the control center, weather app, swiping screens etc. I'll grant you with all the different devices from a 4s to s 6s and and iPad 2 to an iPad air 2, different use cases could result in different outcomes and different perceptions.

However a blanket statement that iOS 9 is slower than iOS 8 across every device, in every nook and cranny, every app is just patently false.
Obviously if you turn all the visuals down the phone will be super fast.My phone is fluid as well if I do that.But thats not what I expect to do on a year old flagship.Turning the visuals down makes the iPhone look like something from 2007.If you turn it on, use the phone for a day or two you will begin to see the various annoyances
 

wbrat

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Wow if you don't see an issue in that then you have no input of this subject. I doubt you can even tell the difference in framerates.

I see an issue, but
Like many here, you are attempting to rationalize a degradation in performance where there should not be one.

No, I just do not think that this kind of issue justify saying that with iOS 9 iPhone is a piece of junk.
 

I7guy

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Obviously if you turn all the visuals down the phone will be super fast.My phone is fluid as well if I do that.But thats not what I expect to do on a year old flagship.Turning the visuals down makes the iPhone look like something from 2007.If you turn it on, use the phone for a day or two you will begin to see the various annoyances
What obviously? There is no obviously. I've used the phone (my phone) with the visuals on and off; basically no difference. I intensly dislike animations and turn them on only for these types of tests. So be it if my phone looks like it's circa 2007....it's my phone.
 

dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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I see an issue, but


No, I just do not think that this kind of issue justify saying that with iOS 9 iPhone is a piece of junk.

Junk? Not saying that. Saying that disappointed that Apple would release an upgrade that negatively impacts overall performance. Especially as powerful as these devices are under the hood.
 

decafjava

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Feb 7, 2011
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My touch ID is MUCH slower than it was. Glitchy, laggy operation, all the stuff the OP mentioned I am presently experiencing. I've reset permissions, restored from a backup, restored and set up as new. My 6 plus is definitely much worse than it was. Wish I had never updated the IOS. And I'm a fanboy. But IOS 9 is worse.
The only issue I am seeing is Touch ID is slow and reads less often...noticeably so.
 
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