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dk001

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Sage, Lightning, and Mountains

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Great little clip. I did catch his one comment and have to say I so agree - starting an app iOS 9 seems to pause then launch. Want to get a real feel for it? Get a Note 5 or G4 and swipe screens and play with these and a 6S Plus. It is quickly apparent that the iPhone, though smooth, is syrupy smooth. I know personally after a week +, I am so tired of the animations.
Wish I could just turn them off.
 

Max(IT)

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The definition of POWER USER these days is someone who sits all day staring at their phone to capture the minutest micro second lag/stutter/ on their phone. People say hello to these POWER USERS, but they completely ignore them, so that they do not miss any stutter/lag/dropped frames. They ignore people and nature around them, so intent they are on finding that lag/stutter/dropped frames.......

These people are real POWER USERS.... Anyone else [who do not ignore people and nature and have a life], have no clue about what lags/stutters/dropped frames are.... They are simply trolls/fanboys/liars/amateurs....
Thank you.
Very good explanation.
Actually iOS 7 was the worst release but the phone was still useable. Imo, iOS 9 has been the best release in years. iOS 6 wasn't great either. Neither was iOS 8.
agree.
iOS 9 is the best iOS so far.
 

Blaster13

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.. for deliberately and maliciously crippling the iPhone 6 all to increase sales of the 6S

Thank you for..
1) a buggy running version of ios9
2) stuttering animations
3) the removal of smooth scrolling in app and in browser
4) for my keyboard to periodically lock up and completely freeze my system when I do something as 'complicated' as type
5) for deliberately slowing down Touch ID just to emphasise the faster Touch ID if 6S
6) For making apps take a full second to even respond and launch after tapping on an icon, and for making the camera app take 4 seconds to be ready to take a photo, allowing the Kodak moment to long pass.
7) for making my once smooth phone feel like an unstable android device.


Now I can understand why my iPad Air has been crippled (it has a good run of a few years), but my 6 is barely a year old. Now it feels like a piece of junk.
Iv not had any of these issues on my iPhone 6 only issue I have is battery which I think is a hardware issue and not iOS related
 

Sumter

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Come on people. Stop the fanboy accusations, looking down on members for their forum activity and/or their grammar skills, or bringing age into discussion. We're supposed to be civil and levelheaded here, don't go so low just to get back at people with opposing opinions from yours.

As for me, I'm a 6 Plus user. I do notice stutters and framedrops, mostly small; I also see that Touch ID is a tad bit slower. I now have to try to unlock my phone with more struggle, as it often refuses to smoothly unlock from one tap of a finger.

Does this mean I think Apple is plotting against the consumers by deliberately slowing down our phones to make us buy the newer ones? No. Especially with iOS at such early stage, it can't be perfect. You're comparing the final version of iOS 8 to early stages of iOS 9 here. I seem to remember when iOS 8 came out, general consensus was that iOS 8 was terrible. Now it's suddenly one of the best iOS versions?

I'm generally content with iOS 9 - I like the new features and the phone isn't that slow, to be honest. Little stutter here and there, sure, that's disappointing considering the phone is only a year old and is supposed to be a flagship. But it's still a pretty good phone, at least for my uses.

No one is right or wrong here unless they are stating something as a fact that's actually not true. We're all here because we're interested in Apple products, it's sad that people try to accuse each other of being a fanboy or anti-Apple and resort to name-calling to win an argument. Not everyone has the same opinion as you, learn to accept it.
 

Act3

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8.4.1 was released in middle of August, kind of a short life span and that is part of the problem. It took them that long to get 8 to where it is now and a month later iOS 9 comes out and cycle repeats itself. Should the consumer have to wait until middle of next year to get an optimized final product that is then going to be replaced with iOS 10 a month or so later?

To spend all that time to make a product as "perfect as you can" just to abandon it and start again a month or so later. I wonder how good iOS 8 would be if there was time for 8.5.1 to come out?

Bottom line is Apple wants every device that can support it on iOS 9, so they can brag about fragmentation numbers. In a room somewhere, someone gets hard over those numbers.
 
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Mobster1983

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AB-SOL-UTELY not, or maybe i just have god's iphone 6 in front of me for the last year, not a SINGLE thing u listed is even close to happening on this phone. 4 seconds for the camera, keyboard freezing the os, really..?

take the thing to an apple store...

To be fair to the OP, I used an iPhone 6+ for two weeks before I got my 6S and I saw many of the same issues on iOS 9 Beta (that were not fixed with the GM). The most annoying was the huge lag when opening the camera. 4 seconds sounds about right.
 

I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
To be fair to the OP, I used an iPhone 6+ for two weeks before I got my 6S and I saw many of the same issues on iOS 9 Beta (that were not fixed with the GM). The most annoying was the huge lag when opening the camera. 4 seconds sounds about right.
The 6+ seems to be the phone with the most issues. Other phones 4s, 5, 5s, 6 seem to be split amongst the extremes (horrible to perfect) and a number of people in the middle (basically good but some issues).
 

Damolee

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iOS 8 run like garbage on the iPhone 6 when it launched, remember it well. Was like it for months.
 

darthbane2k

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Oh, and don't worry. Had Apple not released iOS 9 for his iPhone 6, you can be sure, the OP would be screaming his head off about how Apple is crippling his iPhone 6 by not allowing access to this version of iOS that will cripple his phone.

Once again, complacent people like you are the very reason why Apple probably won't bother to resolve this issue.
The simple fact is (and I'll try to go slow here for your benefit) that my iPhone 6 performed well for 12 months, soon as ios9 was released it performs like a 2-3 generation outdated device.
I expect optimum performance for at least during the first OS 'upgrade'. However as I stated before this is the first year where I chose not to upgrade, so perhaps apple borking hardware is par for the course
 
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Radon87000

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Oh, and don't worry. Had Apple not released iOS 9 for his iPhone 6, you can be sure, the OP would be screaming his head off about how Apple is crippling his iPhone 6 by not allowing access to this version of iOS that will cripple his phone.
I would rather have no updates than deal with frequent but annoying stuttering every now and then .iOS 9 on an iPhone 6 reminds me of my Nexus 5 .On Android no matter which phone it is there is always a damn stutter when you access the widgets screen.On iOS this spot is taken up by spotlight and recent calls
 

Prabas

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But the thing is that iOS 9 didn't slow down iPhone 6. It doesn't feel like outdated device. Performance is the same as on iOS 8.
 

31 Flavas

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Once again, complacent people like you are the very reason why Apple probably won't bother to resolve this issue.
The simple fact is (and I'll try to go slow here for your benefit) that my iPhone 6 performed well for 12 months, soon as ios9 was released it performs like a 2-3 generation outdated device.
I expect optimum performance for at least during the first OS 'upgrade'. However as I stated before this is the first year where I chose not to upgrade, so perhaps apple borking hardware is par for the course
So you're an iPhone customer multiple times over. Perhaps you haven't had to care about upgrades because previously you sold off the old phone and bought the new phone. However --

It seems like you've been here at MacRumors since late 2009. Surely, you've read a thread or two, here and there. You're a self proclaimed "power user". You've never read about how the new iOS is always the worst thing ever for anyone doing an upgrade?

If "optimum" performance is paramount, surely, you'd let everyone else go first. You'd look for evidence that iOS 9 would not take a gigantic dump in your bowl of Cheerios.

Would you not wait for the very YouTube video that you linked to? Hell, Apple even had (still has) an open public beta. You could test out the new iOS without being committed. If there was any hint or vapor trail of performance degradation, let alone (your words) deliberate and malicious crippling, you were just a DFU and system restore from backup away from 8.4.1.

Hell, even after official release, you had two weeks within which you could have downgraded.

Yet, here you are telling me that you have such need for flawless performance after upgrade, but you just threw caution to the wind, and are now upset that iOS 9 has problems for you and you can't downgrade. Seems to me like you're just a poser.

Cry me a river.
 
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Shirasaki

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iOS 9 is slow and this is just a not so rare phenomenon. I have seen overall slowdown on iPad mini 1, and iPhone 6 Plus.

There would be user saying why you mention iPad mini 1 because I can definitely feel iPad mini 1 runs iOS 8 better in many ways than iOS 9, despite iOS 9 was still in early beta.

I can say everything is just like that. Not good at all. And iOS 9 is supposed to be a performance improvement release.

I am not that kind of "power user" although I do use a few enterprise level apps for simple tasks.
 

Radon87000

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But the thing is that iOS 9 didn't slow down iPhone 6. It doesn't feel like outdated device. Performance is the same as on iOS 8.
Lol.Recent Calls Menu,App switcher,Control Centre and TouchID disagree with you

Forget the IPhone 6,I own a Air 2 and even such a powerful tablet is having stutters.iOS 9.0.2 fixed most of it but it's overall slower on iOS 9 than 8
 
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