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The 2023-2024 Football Thread
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Just read that Mbappe has officially agreed to sign for Real Madrid. Was looking at his stats. He has won the French League 1 every year since the age of 18 when he was at Monaco and then on to PSG. If PSG win the league this season it will be 7 league titles in a row for Mbappe starting backing in 2016-17 when Monaco won it to the present day with PSG. That is impressive by anybody's standard and he is only 25!!!.
The only trophies of significant merit that he is missing is the Champions League Trophy, UEFA European Championship with the French main national team (he won the Under 19 version) and the World Club Cup. At 25 he still has a very good chance of getting all 3 of them.
The only trophies of significant merit that he is missing is the Champions League Trophy, UEFA European Championship with the French main national team (he won the Under 19 version) and the World Club Cup. At 25 he still has a very good chance of getting all 3 of them.
I’m not a supporter of the Moyes out campaign. But I think it’s the nature of those loses the fans have an issue with.
We need a response on the pitch.
I do believe ownership feels like they have to do something even if it is the wrong thing...
I think its more that they're prepping for his departure in summer. He's unlikely to renew his contract given the grief he has been getting.
Yeah but its Ligue 1...hardly an exciting league. Bundesliga might be even more interesting.
Phil Foden has a better CV and is younger.
Dunno what it is but Mbappe annoys me...maybe even more than CR7 which quite a feat. But gd luck to him.
Foden's CV is very impressive yes BUT it basically depends on if classing the Champions league trophy has more merit weight than the World Cup which classes his CV as being better than that of Mbappe because whilst Foden does have a Champions league trophy win, he does not have a World Cup win.
A pity that Manchester City (Haaland, who else?) finally succeeded in putting a goal past Brentford.
Funnily enough the Arsenal supporter I was talking to earlier had a very similar view.
Candidly, even if we weren't lying second (or, third, after tonight), I would still hold that view.
City winning everything in sight, year after year, and the sort of sustained dominance that comes from that, (arising from the bottomless resources that comes with being a state owned club), is as unhealthy for the game as - for example - the dominance of PSG has left French football.
I believe they did!Aaaaaheeeemmm... Did you mean SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY legend Paul Heckinbottom...?
The thing is, is City's bottomless pit of money the reason why they are being so dominant? because look at the news articles that have been coming out about United over the past months/couple of years, they paid more than City in transfer fees for the past number of years, they have a higher wage bill than City but yet it is City who is being the dominant one. If United are out scoring them financially on transfer fee's and wages, money cannot be the cause of why City are being dominant because if it was based on money, United should be the dominant one but they are not.
In my view, United have thrown money at the problem of why they are so bad and it has not worked. City have spent their money more wisely then United and it has paid off.
I therefore think the bottomless pit of money argument/discussion of why City is so dominant is not a valid one because as I said, there is factual evidence that United has been out scoring City financially in both transfers and wages and yet look where United are and where they have been over the past number of years.
I beg to differ.
Yes, how one spends money matters, - and I won't deny that City have spent and recruited exceptionally intelligently - but the fact that City have bottomless resources also matters.
Many other managers may seek to emulate - and imitate - the coaching methods of Pep Guardiola, but, in the absence of the resources that he has at his disposal, they can neither hope, nor expect, to succeed when they do so.
You have got me curious then. If United have persistently out scored City in both transfer fees and wages, where is City's bottomless pit of money helping them? It certainly is not in gate receipts (fans at the game) because during City's years of dominance United have consistently had the highest fan attendance of any other club which means they are drawing in more money from game attendance than City is and that is even with the fact that United's ground Old Trafford is in serious need of refurbishment whereas City's stadium does not.. United also out score City in club merchandising. United have recently signed the largest shirt supplier sponsorship with Adidas, again beating City's deal with their shirt supplier. The one thing that is made publicly available that City beat United on is shirt sponsorship.
Therefore, whilst state owned City do have a bottomless pit of money it does not appear to me that they are using it to achieve dominance because United out scores them in nearly every financial aspect of the game and yet look where United are. Hence why I say City having a bottomless pit of money is not a valid reason for them being so dominant in the league.
It would appear to me that club board pressure of winning a 12th title in a row for Bayern Munich (currently 8 points behind the league leaders) has put pay to Tuchel's job as manager as he has been reported as leaving the club in the summer.
I tend to agree with you.
It’s not so much the money they have spent, but they have spent it wisely. They’ve also avoided the sort of hugely talented but fatally flawed egotistical players that have often caused issues elsewhere.
Also clubs that swap and change their managers like I change my socks probably spend a lot more. Not just the compensation of course, but in the players that no longer fit with the current managers thinking.
Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal all have more than enough money to topple City. But they will need to spend wisely, have a good bit of luck and hope City have some problems.
Kane moves to win silverware. Fails to win silverware. Kind of makes me chuckle a bit.
Very much so.
And now, alas, it would appear that they have scored, in what used to be known as Fergie time, namely, the 94th minute.
Very foolish on the part of Arsenal, to cede possession so carelessly.
Even Galeno (the goal scorer) has had some very average games in the League but has been showing up in the CL (4 CL Vs 3 League goals in much fewer games).
The thing is, for all of their attacks, and possession, and corners, Arsenal never really looked like scoring.
Even in the first half, the best chance of the night - at a time of almost over-whelming possession for Arsenal - fell to Porto, who failed to convert it.
It is actually very sad in my opinion. Yes I am a Tottenham supporter but that is bye the bye. We all suport Harry when he plays for England whether you are an Arsenal fan or whatever else just as I do with Foden, Saka or anyone else. The thing is, however it works out, Harry deserves to win medals. He is a nice guy and one of the modern days best strikers. Whatever team you support surly you would wish him well?
I’m not really fussed either way tbh. Yes he’s a good striker and I’m sure he will win trophies there (even if it’s not this year).
Just the main reason he left Spurs was the lack of silverware.
I’m sure the monthly wages are compensating somewhat.