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laptech

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She is the real deal. For the present top female managers will probably lean towards staying in the women's game due to the toxic culture prevalent in the men's game, but in terms of pure ability there's nothing preventing them from succeeding at even the elite levels of men's football.
Sarina Wiegman would not be allowed to manage a men's team because men would not allow it. There is way to much misoginia within men's football. Look at how many men in the game, many of them high profile have been caught out disparaging womens football. It is my opinion that if Ms Wiegman was given a shot at managing a men's football team there would be elements within the game that would see to it that she failed.
 

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HandsomeDanNZ

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This needs to and should happen asap.
But knowing FA they wont.

Some one at work mentioned that FA doesn’t even have private health care in place for National Women’s team. They rely on NHS.


She's potentially going to be the most successful England Football Manager in history (except for Big Sam, with his 100% unbeaten record).
She should be paid an absolute fortune. It shouldn't matter what anyone else is paid - she should be the highest earner in one of these positions (coaching, managing etc).
 

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She's potentially going to be the most successful England Football Manager in history (except for Big Sam, with his 100% unbeaten record).
She should be paid an absolute fortune. It shouldn't matter what anyone else is paid - she should be the highest earner in one of these positions (coaching, managing etc).
Sir Alf Ramsey? You know. When West Ham win the World Cup!
 
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laptech

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Just look towards the US for how much disparity there is between the men's and women's game. Yes I know there has been ongoing issues with the women wanting to be paid the same as the men regarding the international team but look at how successful the US women's team have been, they are multiple world cup winners, won multiple other trophies and yet their manager is paid no where near what the men's manager is paid. Look at the number of world cup winners there are in the women's league football but yet having the name 'world cup winner' beside their name will only get them a few thousand $$$ added to their value but when you compare that to a male world cup winner, well!!! they get a few million added to their value.

the football press are to blame for a lot of it in my opinion. Take the England women's team, they are the current European champions and as such people should be hearing about what is going on with regards to transfers and injuries of the players from that team but do we, nope. The England men's team have done feck all but you can guarantee the football press will be all over transfers and injuries when it involves and England male team player.

If England women do win the WWC, you watch, there will be celebrations for a few days, maybe a week then it will be business as usual, talk about Kane or Maguire or Sancho or Bellingham or Shaw about what is going on with them regarding the England team. The women's team will be an afterthought, forgotten about.
 

laptech

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Sarina Wiegman is like the international equivalent of Mourhino, she wins the Euro Championship with the Netherlands and get's them to the final of a WWC where they lose to the USA. She moves to England where she again wins the Euro Championship and gets the team to a WWC.

With the proliferation of Saudi money men putting millions of $$$ into the game and getting as many high profile players it can to play in their league, I wonder if the Saudi FA will try and tempt Sarina Wiegman with a few million $$$ to become their national team manager.
 

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No issue with the women’s team earning the same as the men’s.

Just as long as that’s the men’s salaries being cut to match the women’s.

Don’t they earn enough from their day jobs? I’d play for England for free. However I don’t think I’d have quite cut it in the Women’s or Men’s game!
 

laptech

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No issue with the women’s team earning the same as the men’s.

Just as long as that’s the men’s salaries being cut to match the women’s.

Don’t they earn enough from their day jobs? I’d play for England for free. However I don’t think I’d have quite cut it in the Women’s or Men’s game!
I agree with the notion of playing for you country for free because it would separate the greedy from those with honor. There is always 2 camps when it comes to wanting to achieve something, camp 1 wants achievements because they know having accolades against their name drives up their earning potential camp 2 want's achievements because pride, honor and a sense of accomplishment is more important to them than money.

What playing for your country should be statutory is compensation to the players club if the player get's injured but getting paid to play for your country, nope, do not agree with it.
 

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Prince William is however on vacation and can’t honor the Lionesses with his presence at the final.
Wonder if he had been on vacation if it was the Men’s WC? 🤔

I read even more different reasons for Prince William's avoidance of going, too far to travel for one match etc. All sounds like bad and crappy excuses.
But Queen of Spain however, will attend to support Spain in the game against England. There you go Spain, with royal support and all 👍🏼
 
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laptech

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Prince William is however on vacation and can’t honor the Lionesses with his presence at the final.
Wonder if he had been on vacation if it was the Men’s WC? 🤔

I read even more different reasons for Prince William's avoidance of going, too far to travel for one match etc. All sounds like bad and crappy excuses.
But Queen of Spain however, will attend to support Spain in the game against England. There you go Spain, with royal support and all 👍🏼
It is another case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. I have no doubt Prince William would love to attend but he knows he would face the wrath of the UK public over environmental concerns and tax payers money if he was to take a flight over to Australia just for the game and flew back to his family after the game. The UK has a strong anti-royal presence and a strong pro-environmental presence and I have no doubt Prince William has been advised not to play into their hands because if he did so not only would he be accused of creating more environmental pollution by flying by plane but also be accused of abusing the public purse by paying for the flight with tax payer money because he would be attending as an official representative of not only the FA but the country which means it comes under the purview of the public purse (the tax payer). I doubt the Spanish royals suffer the same problem with the public as their English cousins do.

Edit: Harry is no longer an active Royal and Prince Andrew was removed from Royal duties and there is no one in the lower pecking order who is really interested in the sport. Should the King of England attend? I am not sure about that because the King of Spain is not attending.
 
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Lioness~

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It is another case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. I have no doubt Prince William would love to attend but he knows he would face the wrath of the UK public over environmental concerns and tax payers money if he was to take a flight over to Australia just for the game and flew back to his family after the game. The UK has a strong anti-royal presence and a strong pro-environmental presence and I have no doubt Prince William has been advised not to play into their hands because if he did so not only would he be accused of creating more environmental pollution by flying by plane but also be accused of abusing the public purse by paying for the flight with tax payer money because he would be attending as an official representative of not only the FA but the country which means it comes under the purview of the public purse (the tax payer). I doubt the Spanish royals suffer the same problem with the public as their English cousins do.

Edit: Harry is no longer an active Royal and Prince Andrew was removed from Royal duties and there is no one in the lower pecking order who is really interested in the sport. Should the King of England attend? I am not sure about that because the King of Spain is not attending.
I am 100% certain that Prince William would’ve been there in an instant if it was men’s WC, without excuses. Ah well, I take it as the royalties in Britain have continued problems 😉
Queen of Spain is attending, even better then the King, as it is Women’s WC 🇪🇸
 

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I am 100% certain that Prince William would’ve been there in an instant if it was men’s WC, without excuses. Ah well, I take it as the royalties in Britain have continued problems 😉
Queen of Spain is attending, even better then the King, as it is Women’s WC 🇪🇸
The British press are pushing that argument just so they can stir up trouble for the Royals and as a result others are falling for it. People need to remember that Prince William attended the final of the Women's Euro Championships that featured England against Germany and therefore based on that evidence I believe he would have attended the WWC final if he knew he would not face any backlash from the British public.
 

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I don’t really care about any Royals so quite happy if they don’t attend any matches, events or whatever.
The French had the right idea with royalty!
I don't care about them either, but they should at least do their representative duties for the salaries they collect. Support their countries attendance in sport events are one of them.
 
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Does that include ANY royal from ANY country or just the Royals in the UK?
Absolutely. The only Royals I care about are
Bobby Moore
Geoff Hurst
Martin Peters.
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Football royalty!
 

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Kylian Mbappe signs one year extension and is back in the first team squad.

Big respect to him for snubbing big money move to Middle East.

I guess fear of being benched for the whole season doesn’t sit well with real footballers especially with Euros next year.
 

Apple fanboy

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Kylian Mbappe signs one year extension and is back in the first team squad.

Big respect to him for snubbing big money move to Middle East.
Agreed. Although he hardly needs any more millions!

Looks like City are not pursuing their interest in Paqueta. Happy if he stays. We need a full strength midfield with the PL and Europa League trophies to win this year….😜
 
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Sal09

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Arsenal want £50m for Balogun and rightly so.

He is a talented footballer.

I personally would like him to stay but he wants more game time which is understandable.
 

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Lewis Hall to Newcastle for £35m is another good bit of business. And one Chelsea will probably regret down the line.

Kane assist on his first start for Bayern.
 
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daneoni

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Lewis Hall to Newcastle for £35m is another good bit of business. And one Chelsea will probably regret down the line.

Kane assist on his first start for Bayern.
...and Kane scores to put Bayern in control.
 

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Prince William is however on vacation and can’t honor the Lionesses with his presence at the final.
Wonder if he had been on vacation if it was the Men’s WC? 🤔

I read even more different reasons for Prince William's avoidance of going, too far to travel for one match etc. All sounds like bad and crappy excuses.
But Queen of Spain however, will attend to support Spain in the game against England. There you go Spain, with royal support and all 👍🏼

I am 100% certain that Prince William would’ve been there in an instant if it was men’s WC, without excuses. Ah well, I take it as the royalties in Britain have continued problems 😉
Queen of Spain is attending, even better then the King, as it is Women’s WC 🇪🇸

I don't care about them either, but they should at least do their representative duties for the salaries they collect. Support their countries attendance in sport events are one of them.
Completely agree.

I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that if the team that has represented England in the first football World Cup Final that they have managed to qualify for, since 1966, was male, there would have been a path beaten (via air miles) by the Government (led by the PM), the Royal Family, and sundry others, in order to attend it in person.
 
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