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The 2023-2024 Football Thread
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Lordy. As I said earlier; you never know in football! Liverpool were very wasteful, end of. A very poor performance. Ah well. What's more important is that the work to free Luis Diaz' father continues, and the man returns safely to his family. Apt then that Luis rescued a point for Liverpool today.
But surely nobody would be that cynical....
Mourinho talked a lot of crap, so rightly he got criticised/chastised for it. He's an arrogant egotistical bully; let's not forget he abused Chelsea's own team doctor, then tried to ruin her career. Nasty little man. His footballing achievments will always be tainted by his dreadful character.
100%. The FA were gutless in dealing with him, so he got away with stuff no other manager did or would. So glad he's no longer relevant in the game.
The actual refereeing isn't the problem; it's just that as I said earlier; with all that technology and teams of people reviewing stuff, and they still can't get it right. Pathetic. Something has to change, and fast.
Some US millionaires buy a club, pump loads of money into it and oh look! Suddenly they're doing really well. Almost like it was a situation made for a TV documentary that would then go and sell globally and make someone loads of money!
But surely nobody would be that cynical....
Kind of harsh. Could it be someone who genuinely loves football takes an interest in a historic football club and just wants to make something good happen?
Surely nobody would be that cynical.......
We chastiest Man City for buying the EPL, now we chastise Newcastle for trying to do the same thing. Now we chastise Wrexham?
Football is still a game money cannot always buy. 2016/17 (which I rue as a Spurs supporter) Leicester City win the league against all the odds and against all the money.
The EPL can still be a very exciting world.
Football is still a game money cannot always buy. 2016/17 (which I rue as a Spurs supporter) Leicester City win the league against all the odds and against all the money.
The EPL can still be a very exciting world.
The thing with VAR and the ball going out of play, it is the exact same reasoning as of that for a goal, the 'whole' ball has to be past the line. No inch or mm of the ball can be touching the line. In the case of Rashford, based on that camera angle the ball is still touching the line thus it should not be given as out of play. The image of the Newcastle player, with that camera angle you can see the ball is fully past the line thus it should be given as out of play.
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since his Chelsea days, he plays dirty and acts as if can get away with the harmful fouls.
I don't disagree but as I have said here I think they should park VAR for 2 years and figure out how it can really help football and give training to the people who use it. It was a great idea badly introduced without suitable training.
Why not go back to a simple referee and linesmen for a while until they figure it out? Of course they won't do that as there is too much invested in VAR to go back now.
Why not go back to a simple referee and linesmen for a while until they figure it out? Of course they won't do that as there is too much invested in VAR to go back now.
Both Havertz and Guimaraes should have received red cards and walked.
Agree completely on Mourinho - his treatment of the Chelsea team doctor (a woman) was disgusting and disgraceful.
And agree that Ferguson was a bully and was treated far too leniently at the time by the FA among others.
Luton always felt like a potential banana skin. Once or twice a season this sort of thing happens. They played well, Liverpool were a bit average but were still just a couple wayward finishes off a fairly comfortable win. The draw was a fair result.
great ideology
but sportsbetdotcom will not go for this
solution?
stop sports gambling online.
Really? Since the takeover, Wrexham's financial value has soared, and the club is now worth a lot more than it was previously. Now there is the possibility of a genuine interest in football, but all the signs are that this is just another business opportunity for millionaires, who will want to see a decent return on their investment. I predict they will sell Wrexham if the club wins promotion to the higher leagues. If this happens, they'll need a larger stadium which will add a lot more complexity and require much larger investment. Given the interest in football by big business, it'll be no surprise if Wrexham ends up being sold to Middle East 'investors' for an enormous profit. The whole thing looks just too engineered to be a nice, wholesome fairytale. The Disney+ docu deal was a part of the whole enterprise, planned from the start. Hollywood loves a good underdog story, but this just feels too manufactured to be genuine.
Wrexham is an interesting story, but I haven't bothered watching any of the series. The massive injection of cash and publicity feels artificial to me. I was much more interested in the old Sunderland 'til I Die series, even though I had no particular attachment to the Black Cats — at least what was going on in that series was more real.
Yes!! We chastise all those teams for doing that!
I don't believe it is about loving football. To my knowledge both Reynolds and McElhenney had no real prior knowledge or interest in the game. I'd bet it was purely financial. One of their managers, or both, or they share one, saw an opportunity to make money. I jokingly(some truth in it though) blame what I call the "EA Sports/FIFA mentality" on these occurrences. It's easy to do these miracle shifts in fortune on those games. And then "poof" some rich folks make it happen in real life.
IMHO, Leicester City's title was purely organic!
And as a Spurs fan you above all people should be chastising them!
Also, life lesson for would be soccer entrepreneurs: It doesn't always work, witness the mess now occurring at Sheffield Wednesday*.
* @pachyderm has me hooked... lol.
First off - yes, Sunderland Till I Die was a fantastic documentary and it didn't rely on a fairytale story - on the contrary, it was a pretty unvarnished look at the realities of most professional clubs. It comes across as fundamentally honest and not revolving around any specific agenda.
But Welcome to Wrexham is still a good watch - partly because it is well put together, but partly because it raises some difficult questions if you watch it with a critical eye. I think it is fair, at this point, to take the new owners at their word about wanting to build a sustainable club. But there is so much more to it than that.
For example, many fans who don't follow football, or who follow 'bigger' teams, may see this as a kind of underdog feelgood story - but to non-league (and now League Two) teams around them, they look like a Hollywood / financial doping project. And there is undoubtedly some truth to that. But let's not forget that in 2023 we have to admit that professional football not only tolerates, but effectively encourages financial doping. And fans are some of the worst offenders at denying that, especially when it involves their own club.
You can argue that Welcome to Wrexham highlights how 'authenticity' in the professional game is dying. Your experience as a fan might be authentic - authenticity comes from the community above all else - but the clubs themselves are less and less reflective of their place and history and more just hollowed out brands, commodities for use by oligarchs, celebrities, investment funds, and nation states - even when they seem to try to do things 'right' it becomes more about the owners than the community. If you support any fully professional club, you are part of some form of sportswashing / moneymaking / PR scheme on some level. Some clubs are a lot, lot worse than others. But as someone who follows a 'big' Premier League club and an MLS club, I think any fan that denies this is simply not paying attention. The sport has gotten too big and too expensive to avoid becoming a reflection of the inequality, acquisitiveness, and corruption so prevalent outside sport.
So I think you can be entertained by the story of Welcome to Wrexham on a certain level, but recognize that this whole documentary represents the beginning of a story, as told by the authors/owners [hence the slick yet slightly artificial tone], whereas Sunderland Till I Die shows you the ways the story often ends...and reboots into endless cycles of hope followed by despair....
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You see? In red text as well. That makes it even more true.
Excellent, well argued, and - above all - a thoughtful, and measured post.
Well said.
This match is so crazy, we might not even end up talking about VAR.
Spurs are the architects of their own downfall, yet Chelsea can't land a knockout blow. Surely Tottenham will tire before the end and let in a winner?
Postecoglu said it himself - the winning run couldn't last all season. This appears to be the day the wheels start coming off.
Spurs are the architects of their own downfall, yet Chelsea can't land a knockout blow. Surely Tottenham will tire before the end and let in a winner?
Postecoglu said it himself - the winning run couldn't last all season. This appears to be the day the wheels start coming off.