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The 27-inch iMac is dead
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The Studio Displays now get software updates though, and have an Apple A13 Bionic chip.
I wouldn't be surprised if these displays stop working in the future with, idk, MacOS 23, due to "hardware limitations" or something. We'll have to wait and see.
it will be the same as upgrading previously, you just won't be getting new display
how is that "awesomely affordable"?
Do you think Apple includes the displays in iMacs for free and eats all the cost?
Without having to pay for the same display again as your current iMac, you can spend more on a higher performance computer or save some money. This after you've paid for the initial investment of the separate Apple Studio Display.
indeed. I'd go with an lg over the studio display regardless. the apple one isn't even hdr
I really like my 32" lg 4k. hoping for a 32" 5k at some point
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They'll probably stop getting software updates at some point, but will remain functional. If they do stop working, then that wipes out the benefits of having the display separate from an AIO unit. I expect the ASD software updates will cease a lot sooner than the arrival of macOS 23, too.
again,
for what was the price of a computer and display you are now only getting the computer
now the display is gone and the computer costs the same
how is that "awesomely affordable"
The computer isn't the same. The Mac Studio has far higher-end specs and performance than any of the non-pro iMacs did as a starting base.
The equivalent non-pro iMacs are Mac Minis paired with an Apple Studio Display.
@nathansz
Let me break this down for you:
The 27" iMac configuration I had cost $2499.99 back in 2017.
Building the above out as a modern Mac Mini with the same RAM and storage costs about $1199. Now I add in the Apple Studio Display the total cost is about $2799.
$300 more expensive with no keyboard or trackpad included as well, but obviously I already have those as an iMac upgrader.
Factor in what inflation has been running at from 2017 until today and in real terms the Mac Mini + ASD is cheaper than my 27" iMac.
Next time I upgrade I only need to buy the Mac Mini for $1199. In the 27" iMac realm, I'd be paying at least $2499.99 again.
The Mac Studio is really the computer part of the old iMac Pro. People keep making this mistake when comparing prices.
Let me break this down for you:
The 27" iMac configuration I had cost $2499.99 back in 2017.
Building the above out as a modern Mac Mini with the same RAM and storage costs about $1199. Now I add in the Apple Studio Display the total cost is about $2799.
$300 more expensive with no keyboard or trackpad included as well, but obviously I already have those as an iMac upgrader.
Factor in what inflation has been running at from 2017 until today and in real terms the Mac Mini + ASD is cheaper than my 27" iMac.
Next time I upgrade I only need to buy the Mac Mini for $1199. In the 27" iMac realm, I'd be paying at least $2499.99 again.
The Mac Studio is really the computer part of the old iMac Pro. People keep making this mistake when comparing prices.
they were taking about an iMac with equivalent specs to a a studio, ends up being the same price, no display
can you show me the Mac mini config with 16 GB ram, 1 TB storage, a gpu equivalent to an and 580 and an apple keyboard and mouse for $1199?
Yes that's the mistake.
The Mac Studio is an iMac Pro type computer.
The Mac Mini is a regular iMac type computer.
The annoyance with the Mac Mini is you have to fork out for the M2 Pro SoC if you want 32GB RAM. Which is the same gripe people have with the Studio, you're probably having to pay for performance you don't need to get the other parts of the system you want such as more RAM.
It seems like Apple has positioned the M2 Pro Mac Mini as a pro-lite device.
You snipped out the part where I said admittedly no keyboard and trackpad is included. But if you're upgrading, you don't need them.
The mid-tier Mac Mini with 16GB and 1TB storage costs $1199. The dGPUs were not strong in those iMacs. I wouldn't be worrying that the GPU in that M2 Mac Mini can't keep up with the old AMDs.
That’s all just branding.
They aren’t types of computers. There was only ever one iMac Pro and it was just a black iMac with Xeon instead of core
if it's m2 pro it should admittedly perform better than a 580, but it'll need to be a max or ultra to beat the 5700 in the 2019 imacs
The Mac Studio has iMac Pro type configuration possibilities with insane core counts, gpu cores, masses of RAM and storage. You couldn't configure any regular iMac like that.
iMac Pro was a stopgap product for sure and Apple wasn't keen on it due to thermals and cooling. They did it pretty good job at the time, but the current Mac Studio with Apple Silicon is the sweet solution they arrived at.
Maybe bursts of peak performance are better with the 5700, but thermal throttling will soon put Apple Silicon far ahead with sustained high-loads.
Your 5700 might look nicer on that pretty bar chart from your benchmarking app. That's about it.
Also running those old Intel iMacs hot a lot of the time was a good way to shorten life expectancy.
There is no apple silicon gpu that beats top end amd gpu’s in metal performance as of yet
And no worry of thermal throttling in in my hackintosh
I've been reading how the all-in-one form factor is dead on Macrumors for 20 years. If Mark Gurman says it's coming, it's coming unless something dramatically happened (which we would have heard about).
They moved the small iMac from 20" to 24", so it just makes sense that they'll move the 27" to 30" or "32".
Tim Cook's Apple is all about economies of scale. Until a panel that meets their performance targets and cost points is available in sufficient quantities and can be used for both the larger iMac and a new Apple Studio Display, the product sits on the future product shelf.
As long as movie studios, recording studios, print houses, medical research companies, hospitals and enthusiasts continue to purchase the product in enough quantity to justify its existence, they'll make it.
It's a high margin product, the inventory is all JIT and profit is profit. And it fits Apple's creative persona DNA. There's no Mac more Apple than the iMac line.
They moved the small iMac from 20" to 24", so it just makes sense that they'll move the 27" to 30" or "32".
Tim Cook's Apple is all about economies of scale. Until a panel that meets their performance targets and cost points is available in sufficient quantities and can be used for both the larger iMac and a new Apple Studio Display, the product sits on the future product shelf.
As long as movie studios, recording studios, print houses, medical research companies, hospitals and enthusiasts continue to purchase the product in enough quantity to justify its existence, they'll make it.
It's a high margin product, the inventory is all JIT and profit is profit. And it fits Apple's creative persona DNA. There's no Mac more Apple than the iMac line.
Yeah technically you don’t need them but new Computer day should mean all new 😂 and not my 10 year old grubby keyboard and mouse.
ive just bought the studio display while the 27 inch iMac is dead or in limbo and its nice but I must admit, I really miss my iMac.. something nice about having it all internal.
im since wishing I went for the 24 inch iMac
I see from your signature you also have a m1 air like me and the 2014 iMac.. I can’t really tell a difference performance wise on basic task… can you?
I’m not sure if the Apple PR was giving out more information than they ought to have done: this is uncharacteristically candid for Apple. So I’m classifying the news as dramatic.
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