Sigh. For the umpteenth time...
...they get firmware updates. So do your other monitors. Just as those never stopped working, these will keep on working.
People are very fixated on this for no good reason, and it is dumb as hell.
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The 27-inch iMac is dead
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Sigh. For the umpteenth time...
...they get firmware updates. So do your other monitors. Just as those never stopped working, these will keep on working.
People are very fixated on this for no good reason, and it is dumb as hell.
I'm also curious, cos the Verge doesn't even offer a direct quote, it just says that's what Meza said to them, with no context. Wondering if it wasn't meant to be a public announcement.
I can see why you'd say that, and if I do some soul searching, I would have to admit that might be a variable here.
But really— when I buy a new machine, I buy the absolute best I can afford to stave off obsolescence. This— because I tend to make a machine last a lot longer than many do. For my desktop machines, I went from a G4 Cube to a 2002 Sunflower G4 iMac to a 2011 Sandy Bridge iMac before needing to replace that with my current 2020 Comet Lake iMac. Apple would probably prefer my upgrade cycles to be shorter— but that's how I've done it. Buy BIG for the long haul.
After reflecting on the matter, I see that a Studio might be overkill for my needs and that a maxed out Mini would probably suffice-- but even then I'm running WAY over my preferred budget when buying an Apple display.
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If you don’t mind 4k instead of 5k and can do without the camera this is what I have and it’s fantastic. I don’t think I could go back to 27”:
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The delay in a new iMac 27-32” has caused me to rethink my future upgrade path. I’m now willing to bite the bullet on an ASD+Studio, so that I can then be afforded the extra flexibility in subsequent upgrades. I’ll likely get the M3 Max Studio or M3 Ultra Studio.
It’s going to be a painful $4k-$6k upgrade cycle, but I appreciate not having to upgrade a monitor as often as the computer. Also makes it way easier to service and trade in.
It’s going to be a painful $4k-$6k upgrade cycle, but I appreciate not having to upgrade a monitor as often as the computer. Also makes it way easier to service and trade in.
None of those have anything to do with sales. Watch the Air get updated without a spec bump or new colors.
And all in ones are far from dead. I walk into a Best Buy and I see aisles of all in ones set up and far fewer standalone desktops. They wouldn’t have those out for display if people didn’t buy them.
While that seems like a good strategy, as I get older I realize one thing:
I'm the one becoming obsolete. The machines are fine.
Yeah, but who buys their computers in person, from Best Buy, in 2023? Only people who don't know what an all in one or a desktop is. The uninformed consumer would probably prefer an AIO to a desktop.
Still, you raise an interesting point. I would like to see sales data on AIOs to be convinced.
And that is why I keep coming back to thinking of buying an M3 iMac instead of a Mini.
The ASD is premium priced, for a premium machine. The vast number of displays one finds on the shelves of Best Buy or the pages of Amazon tend to be rather disappointing in looks, build, and I suspect many will fail within a few years.
One can find a 27" 4K display on Amazon for as little as $189. It may sound like a good deal, but I do wonder how well it will work and for how long.
The M3 imac is 24inches, and that enables it to replace BOTH the 21 and 27 inch imacs. So no more imacs... sorry... just enjoy the ones you have and if you want a bigger screen buy a mac mini and 27" display...
The issue is for some of us are aging is the 27” display on the iMac was perfect when as you you use larger images and text and still not lose as much as a smaller display. No 24” is ever going to replace the unbelievably good display that the 5k 27” that the iMac had.
In which case, you're not going to notice the minor quality difference between 4k UHD and 5k on a 27" screen - in fact, on a 5k display you're probably going to end up using a fractional-scaled resolution to get a larger UI, whereas "larger text" mode (which is optimum quality for 4k UHD) on a 27" 4k could well be perfect for you. Or "smaller text" scaled mode but on a 32" 4k display.
So you'd probably be better off with a Mac Mini or Studio and being able to choose a 27", 28", 30" or 32" 4k display to suit your preferences.
My days of youthful good eyesight are long gone, and I'm using 28.5" 3:2 "4k+" displays which I find perfect in "larger text" mode, with no fractional scaling. (Pity there aren't more 3:2 displays available - but regular 4k would be Plan B).
"Buy cheap - buy twice" is still a net win as long as the alternative is more than twice the price!
Anyway, you don't have to go that cheap - a "premium" 4k display is still a fraction of the price of the Studio display.
Dell Ultrasharp displays - for example - have a pretty good rep (better than their PCs!).
So the entire point is trying to save money? Why exactly should Apple make that product then?
This x 1000. Apparently these people don't have the iMac graveyards in their attic/garage like many of us former iMac owners do. A product where the display will outlast the PC inside it by several years, but can't be repurposed for anything. And can't be sold or traded easily due to being impossible to ship. Oh and good luck ever getting support on one from Apple, because they won't let you ship one to them, unlike a Mac Studio or a MacBook.
I've had over a dozen Macs in last 20 years and most of them have been bought and sold without issue...yet every iMac I ever had is still here, taking up space somewhere. They are wildly impractical. Today my desktop computer is an LG 40" 5k2k display with an M1 MacBook Pro running it. Nothing about this is worse than an iMac in any way, and everything about it is better. More real estate at the desk, the computer can travel with me, and computer can get updated as many times as a I want without moving the display. The display will continue to work indefinitely, and only needs to be upgraded when something much better comes along. I would never, ever buy an iMac (again) today no matter what Apple comes out with.
Indeed, I don’t. I bought the very first generation 27" iMac (2009) and I can’t retire it, because Apple refuses to build anything bigger and better.
It can still be used as a very nice monitor with an aging Intel Mac attached to it. There are plenty of use cases for that in the age of streaming and video content.
The iMac is not responsible for you choice to live in a remote area with no neighbors.
I fix it. 🦾🪛
A new Mac every 20 months? I have a hunch that it’s not the AiO form factor causing e-waste in your household.
None of this makes any sense. There is an expensive 13-inch Retina display permanently attached to your MBP, which can’t be updated separately from the computer, which does take considerably more desk space than a wireless Magic Keyboard. If you accidentally spill a cup of coffee over your keyboard, you’re looking at $1000+ water damage.
Which will never happen, because true display tech innovations require improvements along the entire sensor and pixel data chain. Like demonstrated by the Apple Vision Pro with its dozens of sensors and cameras and dedicated R1 processor. Once you standardize an external display connector, nothing will ever exceed its limitations.
Just out of curiosity - what's wrong with the Mac Studio / 27" ASD combo? It's surely more capable - you don't have to lock yourself into the 24" iMac option. Is it because
- You're dead set on getting an AIO?
- It's just a cost issue?
- Something else?
This is the worst attempt to justify an iMac that I've ever seen. It's not even a good rebuttal to my comment.
If you are Apple then I suppose you shouldn’t
What the person I was referring to was saying that the studio plus monitor is going to cost them much more then the iMac would have
Pretty simple and correct statement that an Apple cheerleader here tried to create a convoluted argument against
Could you elaborate? I actually have the same sentiment, but a quantitative comparison would be really interesting to better understand just how much more expensive the ASD + Mac Studio / Mini would be.
How do I rebuttal such convincing arguments? iMacs are impossible to sell and buy secondhand, except for the one I’m typing on.