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F10 => G10 -- I see no difference apart from some minor body styling updates. Did the G10 get new engines because the F10 was plagued with issues.

What issues? Maybe the N63 V8 but certainly not the N20 and N55.

G30 is an all-new chassis with the carbon core from the new 7 and i3/i8. Early prototype drives have said it drives almost as well as the E60 and E39.

No Carbon Core, surprisingly. I thought that was the original plan with this new platform where the 7er was going to get Carbon Core and it would trickle down to the 5er and ultimately the 3er but the G30 5er uses more aluminum to lower its weight.
 
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N63. I've been reading owner accounts of oil leakage on cars just a year old. The N63, S63 and its TU variant are apparently riddled with issues. I knew a chap with a.. I believe an F85 who has dropped it off at BMW more than he's driven the car. Granted he's the dictionary definition of a soccer dad.
 

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Just reading about a guy down south with a '16 GT, full exhaust (like me) a simple aftermarket intake tube + drop in filter, and a tune (flex tune), running 93, put down 410HP on a notoriously low reading dyno. That's a pretty solid 480HP, outstanding! Mishimoto intake hose ordered, on deck for a tune (probably the same flex tune from Lund with an X4 programmer).

Then the 500+ HP mark is just headers or a GT350 IM away (the latter is more like 510, 530-ish for both) :)

You may now return to your regularly scheduled BMW yammering :D
 

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I don't like domestic cars, but I wouldn't say no to a GT350 or a GT500 if it ever comes out. The visceral sound of the current GT350 makes me swoon a little.

G30 is an all-new chassis with the carbon core from the new 7 and i3/i8. Early prototype drives have said it drives almost as well as the E60 and E39.

New engines... Not because of issues, just time for replacement. The new 2.0T is already in the 2017 F30 330i. The new turbo-6 came last year in the 340i. Now the 5 will be 530i/540i/550i.
I meant externally. I've never driven an E60, but I have an E39. It's been a long time, but if it's true I'd like to take a test drive. Speaking of BMW, I saw an M3 today at the gas station. It was this light silver blue color. I've never seen an M3 with that color before. Silverstone is the color's name, I believe. I believe it's a multi stage paint similar to Lexus's and thus it looks different at different times of the day.
 

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I don't like domestic cars, but I wouldn't say no to a GT350 or a GT500 if it ever comes out. The visceral sound of the current GT350 makes me swoon a little.

I wanted a convertible or I would've seriously considered purchasing a GT350, I had two stellar deals, a Tech and a Track, the former has no ADM (there was a little sleight of hand involving another trade, but it was decent), the latter $5K (which at the time was outstanding), but I don't pay _any_ ADM and for the street the '16 Tech pack would've been preferable (the '17s have added most of that package to the base model).

I've had a number of domestics that were incredibly fun, engaging, visceral rides, as much as anything I've driven/owned from other manufacturers (and I've driven quite a few being friends with lots of enthusiasts, and attending dozens of track events across the east coast).

YMMV.
[doublepost=1473732608][/doublepost]I'll be on deck for a GT500 convertible when the time comes ... :cool:
 

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Just going to toss out that my 2004 Lincoln has its fair share of plastic buttons that feel the same today as they did when I got the car 8 years ago. Some are rarely pressed, while others are used multiple times a day. They're all holding up great, aside from the frequently used buttons being worn smooth. All the buttons are two-shot injection molded, meaning that they have to go through some serious wear before the markings wear out. All of mine are completely legible, and again some are used multiple times a day.

As a side note, after putting several thousand mile on a car with nothing between you and the front wheels but a steering column along with a rack and pinion(no power assist) I have a hard time talking about road feel with any vehicle that has any kind of power steering.


The type of coating used on these Maserati buttons is similar to coating I've seen on some household items, and it gets sticky from heat and general exposure to the elements, I suppose. In fact, my mom has several makeup containers (they all seem to use that rubber coating) that are totally disgusting - a sticky mess. As for myself, I have a subwoofer underneath my desk, and it has a large rubber-coated foot on each corner. And, of course, it suffered from the same melting issue and had carpet fuzz matted into it. I simply used 'Resolve' carpet stain-remover on the feet and they're as good as new. Of course, they seem to be fully rubber, so I'm sure I got them down to a layer of the rubber that isn't screwed up. (BTW, a couple pages back is my YouTube video of that cleaning process.)
 
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I think we all can agree... Aside from the wrangler... Jeeps reliability in the past was highly hit or miss... Emphasis on the miss lol
Well I suppose the same could be said for any car on earth. You will have cars that never have a single issue down to complete lemons.

Given my immediate family has owned a Grand Wagoneer, a ZJ, 2 WJ's, and a WK they haven't been the worst cars, but they haven't been the best either. My sisters '08 WK Overland 5.7 Hemi was absolutely atrocious. My first car was a Grand Cherokee limited w/Quadradrive and the rare 4.7L HO engine (fantastic btw). I put like 180k on that thing and it had oodles of issues, it's really just a matter of how much $$$ you put into it. Our ZJ had the rock solid AMC 4.0 I6, perhaps one of the most solid engines ever made. That said it had all sorts of fuel pump issues, AC compressor/condensor, transmission, transfercase, etc- all those Chrysler issues of the 90's.

I've thought about buying a Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel or V8 to replace my 5 but everyone I know who has purchased a newer Jeep has purchased a horror show. It's kind of a turn off. FCA is bottom of the barrel with reliability at the moment.

Is that for example... You would go and Call the New Chevy Malibu a crappy car from the rip without even test driving the car, or not even read not one review but degrade the car because it's a Chevy but turn around and call a Passat a superior car because it German... That's non sense
The New Malibu has one of the most discombobulated interiors I've ever seen. Or maybe it was an Impala? Menu items for features that didn't exist in the car is depressing. It was a rental. The New Chevy's are light years ahead of where they were 5 years ago- which was light years behind most everyone else. I wouldn't say they're the best by any means though.

I'm just thinking out loud on what would be the ideal affordable track/autocross car... Anyone else want to chime in
BMW 4-Series or Audi A5 :p

Cars do get sold... Fast as hell but too damed small... Gave me back issues
Evidently fast. Very, very, very fast.
 
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The type of coating used on these Maserati buttons is similar to coating I've seen on some household items, and it gets sticky from heat and general exposure to the elements, I suppose. In fact, my mom has several makeup containers (they all seem to use that rubber coating) that are totally disgusting - a sticky mess. As for myself, I have a subwoofer underneath my desk, and it has a large rubber-coated foot on each corner. And, of course, it suffered from the same melting issue and had carpet fuzz matted into it. I simply used 'Resolve' carpet stain-remover on the feet and they're as good as new. Of course, they seem to be fully rubber, so I'm sure I got them down to a layer of the rubber that isn't screwed up. (BTW, a couple pages back is my YouTube video of that cleaning process.)

I apologize if this comes off as blunt...

but no one cares about your Maserati or its questionable interior plastics. Tbh, that car should be taken to the nearest landfill and junked for parts. I can't believe you've written paragraphs about this rubbish.

I have a feeling many people in this thread agree with me.

Thank you for your understanding. Have a great night.
 
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I apologize if this comes off as blunt...

but no one cares about your Maserati or its questionable interior plastics. Tbh, that car should be taken to the nearest landfill and junked for parts. I can't believe you've written paragraphs about this rubbish.

I mean, listen, we're talking about plastic, not a car, not a car, not a car, we talking about plastic. Not a car. Not the car, but we're talking about plastic, man. I mean, how silly is that? And we talking about plastic. I know it's supposed to be there. I know that and I'm not, I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do. But we're talking about plastic man. What are we talking about? Plastic? We're talking about plastic, man. We're talking about plastic. We're talking about plastic. We ain't talking about the car. We're talking about plastic, man. Man look, I hear you. It's funny to me too, I mean it's strange. It's strange to me too, but we're talking about plastic man, we're not even talking about the car, the actual car. We're talking about plastic.

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I apologize if this comes off as blunt...

but no one cares about your Maserati or its questionable interior plastics. Tbh, that car should be taken to the nearest landfill and junked for parts. I can't believe you've written paragraphs about this rubbish.

I have a feeling many people in this thread agree with me.

Thank you for your understanding. Have a great night.

Actually, I've had others talk about the plastics, and one guy here was even writing entire rebuttals to my claims of the plastics having a simple rubberized coating that melts from UV exposure. First of all, I brought the topic up multiple pages ago by posting a very helpful video demonstration of myself fixing the common issue on a household item. I went out of my way to hopefully help people who haven't found a great solution to dealing with sticky plastics. Next, I shared my week-long curing process of the Maserati because... this is a car thread. If you detailed your cool car, you might be proud of the outcome. And, lastly, I had someone here reply to me, so I replied to him. I'm not shooting out lone posts into thin air. (I don't always leave the full quotations inside my replies, as it's redundant sometimes.)

Also, I'm going to go ahead and make an assumption. I don't usually like to make assumptions, but I'm going to assume that you've never driven a car like this. If you think a machine like this should be taken to a scrap yard (especially when nothing is wrong with it), you're crazy. You don't understand what makes the car special, and you probably have no idea how incredibly well it drives. 11 years later, and it still drives better than 90% of sedans. I find your remark rude and ignorant.
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Why are you such a poser?!

Trade that POS in for a Ford Fusion. Only sheep drive foreign cars.

^^^ Ah, so you have something against our Maserati because you feel that people who don't buy from American car companies are sheep? I knew I would find an off post of yours somewhere that would clear up why you think our car should be taken to a junk yard. (Also, it's ironic that you say to trade in a POS for a Ford Fusion...)

Seriously, though - my God... do you go around your neighborhood and slash imported cars' tires or something?
 
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Shavova tov, what a week. And it's barely Tuesday here on the west coast. "That guy" aka me is old enough to be your father you little miscreant accident. If you can't comprehend basic chemistry and instead push you own ********, then maybe you should exit the thread instead of being offended at every turn. This isn't PRSI.
 

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Shavova tov, what a week. And it's barely Tuesday here on the west coast. "That guy" aka me is old enough to be your father you little miscreant accident. If you can't comprehend basic chemistry and instead push you own ********, then maybe you should exit the thread instead of being offended at every turn. This isn't PRSI.

Wow... that came out of nowhere. You know I wasn't trying to offend you or anything, right? I literally type everything on this forum with a calm mind and with enthusiasm. I'm not here to trash-talk people or look down at others with scorn. You seemed to be a bit more excited over what was said than I was. I referenced you because I was telling AutoUnion how others have been contributing to the conversation - that I'm not just speaking for myself.

Also, you don't own our car. How would I know if you've even been in it? Have you dealt with Maserati plastics on a personal level? I already told you that even the plastic parts that aren't touched (panels that are out of reach) are sticky, and that even my subwoofer's rubber feet (which aren't touched) had the same effect. I highly doubt that the stickiness is solely created by contact with fingers. Touching the melted plastic certainly makes it worse and can exacerbate the rough condition of the buttons/panels, but I'm fairly certain that it isn't the cause of the stickiness. If you were more familiar with the car, you might understand. Not every component of the car is touched. It's not just the buttons that are sticky. Now, please do not cuss at me. This forum has generally been civil and I have been civil to everyone on it. I didn't come here to be scolded by someone who's fine and dandy at one moment and then randomly flips moods on me and becomes aggressive towards my statements.

Lastly, age has nothing to do with this. It seems as though you are playing the age card in order to talk to me in a scornful manner. It doesn't matter that I'm a young adult and that you're an older adult. Age is not of concern here.
 
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Well that escalated quickly. I tried to lighten the mood with my post above but I guess that didn't work. :D

Yeah, I am surprised at how quickly it escalated. Can you agree what I wasn't in a hostile mood? I'm not here to insult anyone; I'm just surprised that I got pelted by two users so far... and for what? I didn't think I was instigating anything. ;)

Sorry to anyone if they are annoyed about the plastics thing. Know that I am only continuing talking about them because I am getting replies about the matter. I don't ignore replies, unless there's nothing more to be said.
 

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Did you drop it? Jeeps are _super_ popular around here, and the few folks I know in my neighborhood with hardtops, keep them on a winch/pulley setup, pretty cool, can be installed by one person. They just hang in the garage above the cars when they're not in use (most folks drive them totally open)

I live in Europe and have a Europe sized garage :oops:

I have a Teraflex 3.5" lift and 33's and there's only about 4" between my roof and the garage door opener. I have to take the top off and put it on a dolly and roll it into our random stuff garage. The last time I broke it we let the glass fall while putting it on the dolly so in order to prevent that we take the glass off pack it and store it then pull the roof. This time I had the glass and was snaking it around the utility trailer tripped and fell into the side of the trailer. So now I have my top on but I have the plexiglass rear glass I cut out the last time I did this until I can get one here. Fortunately I have a wife that is more than used to my little accidents and my little projects that take and cost twice as long as I plan. :eek:
 

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Also, I'm going to go ahead and make an assumption. I don't usually like to make assumptions, but I'm going to assume that you've never driven a car like this. If you think a machine like this should be taken to a scrap yard (especially when nothing is wrong with it), you're crazy. You don't understand what makes the car special, and you probably have no idea how incredibly well it drives. 11 years later, and it still drives better than 90% of sedans. I find your remark rude and ignorant.

Being under 20 years old, I highly doubt you've actually driven anything but that Maserati.

Since we're making assumptions now, I am going to assume that besides an old QP and Land Cruiser, you haven't driven a modern luxury car...

^^^ Ah, so you have something against our Maserati because you feel that people who don't buy from American car companies are sheep? I knew I would find an off post of yours somewhere that would clear up why you think our car should be taken to a junk yard. (Also, it's ironic that you say to trade in a POS for a Ford Fusion...)

Seriously, though - my God... do you go around your neighborhood and slash imported cars' tires or something?

Oh man...

1. Have you not being following this thread for the past few days? That was a joke I made in reference to @Muscle Master personal vendetta against people who own foreign cars.
2. @A.Goldberg is a friend and we clown around like this all the time
3. Calm down.
4. You have no idea what we're talking about
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Also, you don't own our car.

Look... it's adorable that your dad lets you drive his "rare" Maserati, but no one here really cares about it. All you constantly do is brag about it. To be blunt, there's nothing to brag about. Move along.

Lastly, age has nothing to do with this. It seems as though you are playing the age card in order to talk to me in a scornful manner. It doesn't matter that I'm a young adult and that you're an older adult. Age is not of concern here.

LOL :D
 
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Seriously, though - my God... do you go around your neighborhood and slash imported cars' tires or something?
One time @AutoUnion39 slashed the tires of my BMW. He clearly hates foreign cars.

11 years later, and it still drives better than 90% of sedans. I find your remark rude and ignorant
I agree it's a social injustice of a high degree. I suggest listing the 90% of cars that drive worse than a QP.

Shavova tov, what a week. And it's barely Tuesday here on the west coast.
It's a little late to say Shavua Tov.

Have you dealt with Maserati plastics on a personal level?

I once had a summer fling with Maserati plastics. It was beyond personal, it was intimate and romantic. You could say we melted in each others arms... Those were the days...

didn't come here to be scolded by someone who's fine and dandy at one moment and then randomly flips moods on me and becomes aggressive towards my statements.
Now that I've tried my best to diffuse the situation and correcting Hebrew grammar, you have spent countless paragraphs writing about plastics. Frankly I think the conversation has come and passed. It's up to you to continue on with it. But let's be honest you are taking these comments way too personally.

2. @A.Goldberg is a friend and we clown around like this all the time
Awwww. Yes I remember the first time we dressed up as Clowns.

But seriously please add "clown around" to "the list" (of deplorable words/terms).

I don't "clown around" I ONLY "horse around" or engage in "horseplay". But not "reindeer games".

Also add "chicken scratch" to the list. This probably isn't the most appropriate place for this convo.
 
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Heh, my mother still lives in the house she and my father bought off-plan in 1960. Unless you drive a Ford Popular or Morris Minor the garage is out of bounds. Tremendous foresight by the developers.

It's funny because the builder came to the house on a Saturday to measure my car to make sure it'd fit before they started building.

Really though prior to the JK and JL Jeeps really weren't that big but they sure do look it. I will say though that it's a monster compared the the CJ 5 it replaced but it rides and drives better.
 

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Just going to poke my head in and say that when my grandfather still had his '97 Town Car, I'd venture to guess that it rode nicer than 95% of the cars on the road. Yes, it was squishy and wallowy with no steering feel(just like every other TC, except maybe my mom's 96 with R&P steering) but it was like floating on a cloud.

Maserati doesn't have the market cornered on making squishy, comfortable riding cars. If anything, I'd say we INVENTED the squishy, comfortable car in America.
 

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I kinda forgot about this thread, but I was talking with another forum member in a completely off-topic thread about my car. Anyway. Toyotas are great cars, heck mine lasted our family a quarter of the century, and let me preface this with the fact that this was the worse V6 Toyota ever produced, ever. Any Toyota buff has probably already guessed what engine this is: the 3VZ series. Introduced in the late 80s, Toyota's first V6 was plagued with problems relating to the head gasket. The 3VZ-FE (used in sedans) also had terrible oil sludging issues.

Anyway. There have been a total of three head gaskets on my car. One set was put on after it overheated and blew, 2nd set was when Toyota did the recall (fun fact, if your 3vze hasn't had the HGs done by Toyota, you still qualify for a free warranty replacement), 3rd was this summer when my radiator put a hole in itself (rust) and I let it overheat in a drive through without my knowledge.

However, I decided to do a full rebuild of the engine. 223k miles had done the job, and since it sat for four years, it burned a bit of oil. So my whole summer, I worked hard and got the heads bored, the surfaces planed, valves set, etc. We put the engine together and back in the car in three weekends. Now the new engine has 500 miles :)

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Just going to poke my head in and say that when my grandfather still had his '97 Town Car, I'd venture to guess that it rode nicer than 95% of the cars on the road. Yes, it was squishy and wallowy with no steering feel(just like every other TC, except maybe my mom's 96 with R&P steering) but it was like floating on a cloud.

Maserati doesn't have the market cornered on making squishy, comfortable riding cars. If anything, I'd say we INVENTED the squishy, comfortable car in America.

I take it that most of their cars aren't squishy and comfortable. However, the suspension on older Quattroportes (and possibly newer ones... but I haven't driven in the new generation of QP) is very cushy, while also rigid and sporty. After driving for a while in a P71 Crown Vic, getting back into the Mas felt like being on a waterbed.
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I kinda forgot about this thread, but I was talking with another forum member in a completely off-topic thread about my car. Anyway. Toyotas are great cars, heck mine lasted our family a quarter of the century, and let me preface this with the fact that this was the worse V6 Toyota ever produced, ever. Any Toyota buff has probably already guessed what engine this is: the 3VZ series. Introduced in the late 80s, Toyota's first V6 was plagued with problems relating to the head gasket. The 3VZ-FE (used in sedans) also had terrible oil sludging issues.

Anyway. There have been a total of three head gaskets on my car. One set was put on after it overheated and blew, 2nd set was when Toyota did the recall (fun fact, if your 3vze hasn't had the HGs done by Toyota, you still qualify for a free warranty replacement), 3rd was this summer when my radiator put a hole in itself (rust) and I let it overheat in a drive through without my knowledge.

However, I decided to do a full rebuild of the engine. 223k miles had done the job, and since it sat for four years, it burned a bit of oil. So my whole summer, I worked hard and got the heads bored, the surfaces planed, valves set, etc. We put the engine together and back in the car in three weekends. Now the new engine has 500 miles :)

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Nice to see you here, Keaton. The car I have to drive is a '96 Landcruiser. I really admire 1990s Toyota SUVs. Our own machine has lasted us since the day we bought it, and a friend of ours still owns and loves his 90s 4-Runner. Although, as you mentioned, these had V6 engines. Besides the brakes, I'd say that the V6 is the worst feature here. And, by the time they re-introduced the V8 Landcruiser, it had a design that I personally didn't care for.
[doublepost=1473787690][/doublepost]Talking about one's car isn't bragging about it. If you read some of my posts, I was actually referring to all of the flaws it has with its interior construction... but, anyway.

The only car I've driven besides a Landcruiser? Sorry, but you're incorrect. The first car I drove was a Chevy Suburban; I've also driven a 1955 Chevy truck, a Peugeot, a couple Hondas, a couple Toyotas, about four Mercedes, a new BMW sedan, Jaguar, motorbikes, golf carts, etc. Of course, I feel as though you'd love for me to list what I've driven, since you'll probably turn around and accuse me [again] of bragging.
 

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I kinda forgot about this thread, but I was talking with another forum member in a completely off-topic thread about my car. Anyway. Toyotas are great cars, heck mine lasted our family a quarter of the century, and let me preface this with the fact that this was the worse V6 Toyota ever produced, ever. Any Toyota buff has probably already guessed what engine this is: the 3VZ series. Introduced in the late 80s, Toyota's first V6 was plagued with problems relating to the head gasket. The 3VZ-FE (used in sedans) also had terrible oil sludging issues.

Anyway. There have been a total of three head gaskets on my car. One set was put on after it overheated and blew, 2nd set was when Toyota did the recall (fun fact, if your 3vze hasn't had the HGs done by Toyota, you still qualify for a free warranty replacement), 3rd was this summer when my radiator put a hole in itself (rust) and I let it overheat in a drive through without my knowledge.

However, I decided to do a full rebuild of the engine. 223k miles had done the job, and since it sat for four years, it burned a bit of oil. So my whole summer, I worked hard and got the heads bored, the surfaces planed, valves set, etc. We put the engine together and back in the car in three weekends. Now the new engine has 500 miles :)

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Nice! one of the last pretty ones and it happens to ride better than all the newer versions
 

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I've continued writing about this stuff because I've had active replies to my original content. I'm not shooting out fake replies out of thin air. And, honestly, I would hate to have bad relations with anyone here; but it looks like there are already two people here who have flipped out on me for no reason.

Here's hoping that nobody else decides to suffer a sudden mood swing and unleash their keyboard-warrior skills at me.
 

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Nice! one of the last pretty ones and it happens to ride better than all the newer versions
Yeah, the driver's side is pretty clean. 25 years of dents. You can see a long dent where my younger sis learned how to ride her bike without training wheels. The passenger front fender has a small crumple where I backed out of my first girlfriend's house and brushed up against a tree. The tailgate has some dents at the top where me and my dad would load lumber into the back for a weekend project. I almost want to fix the dents, but I'd lose a lot of sentimental value. I will say, I wish the passenger side had better paint. It was an insurance respray. The PO (to my dad) wrecked and totaled it, so the frame is a bit off, but the paint is sadly coming off on the passenger side.

I really need new bumpers though :)

I take it that most of their cars aren't squishy and comfortable. However, the suspension on older Quattroportes (and possibly newer ones... but I haven't driven in the new generation of QP) is very cushy, while also rigid and sporty. After driving for a while in a P71 Crown Vic, getting back into the Mas felt like being on a waterbed.
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Wait, I don't think your Landcruiser had the 3VZE, but some other engine. mine runs like a top now, since I did a full rebuild. Only two of the head gaskets of the total three sets blew, and they were negligence (well, one was because of the radiator rust).. I'd consider that reliable. I even drove it home with the HG blown (through traffic!). I'd love a Landcruiser, as much as I love the 4Runner's size (rides high, but very small) the Landcruiser has such a good profile (so much glass!)
 
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