And now they are being used to "cheat" the fuel economy tests as they keep the engines out of boost.
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And now they are being used to "cheat" the fuel economy tests as they keep the engines out of boost.
Are you talking about the VW scandal or? Our CLS is rather fuel efficient, even with my lead foot driving habits. Prior to the kids being born, we took it on a few road trips and managed about 36 miles a gallon highway driving on flat roads in Northern California. It was also colder at the time which may have influenced the efficiency of the engine. With my GL, I have to be very light with the gas pedal to get decent mileage on long trips. I believe the year after mine they switched to bi-turbo engines. My work is by the coastline and it's mostly highway or near highway speed driving for me, so the GL is fairly "efficient." City driving is not at all efficient compared to newer GLs. In very bad stop and go traffic after getting into the city from the suburbs, I can expect to burn a quarter tank to get to the other side of the city. There are worse offenders that burn more gas, of course.
MPG wise, based on my observations and reading, Audi and BMW are far more efficient in real world MPG.
No, I put cheats the test in quotes because they aren't exactly cheating like VW did with the emissions scandal. But these smaller turbocharged engines can get good fuel economy compared to NA V6/V8 making similar power because the test loops tend to keep the engines out of boost. Moment you get on the gas and into the boost, fuel economy will drop.
Oh. I haven't driven those smaller engines. I think the slowness would cause me to be irate.
You might as well called me out as it is obvious.....
I still do plan to test drive the manual transmission version of the car( last attempt, the dealer didn't have any manual SS's in stock). I am leaning auto because of it will be a daily driver and bumper to bumper traffic will not be fun with a manual transmission. I have heard nothing, but praises though of the Tremec in the Camaro so we will see. If the Camaro was my secondary car, manual would be the favorite. I have to balance all that "road feel" and "engagement" with the practicality of daily driving as it is currently planned to be the primary vehicle.
I thought you were keeping your Saturn (or am I remembering wrong)? Gotta go with a stick on a sports car. I'd love a stick, but even if I was buying a car available with a stick, I'm not sure I'd do it either. From my home to work is about 6 miles. The drive takes about 45min+ during rush hour- so I'm not sure a stick would be much fun (granted I'd probably never get out of 1) hahaha.
What MG'S don't come standard with BT
It's something to look into. I believe it was bunns that stated that I should look into how much insurance would be with the Saturn as the primary vehicle and Camaro secondary vs just the Camaro as the primary and see if the savings in insurance could equal the trade in value of the Saturn in a short time period.
That's not bad. Just put on some old jazz and have a relaxing drive.
What MG'S don't come standard with BT
If by "BT" you mean "broken teeth" as in the synchro rings in the transmission, mine did
BTW, as a nit-picky thing the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger are pony cars, not sports car
. The MX-5 is one of a small list of sports cars on the market. Offhand, I'd say the MX5, 911, Boxster, Morgans, and whatever the heck Lotus is making now are about the only ones.
If by "BT" you mean "broken teeth" as in the synchro rings in the transmission, mine did
BTW, as a nit-picky thing the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger are pony cars, not sports car
I would classify the Challenger as a muscle car. It's all straight line performance. Camaro and Mustang has graduated from the muscle car class because they can take corners now.
What would you classify the Corvette as? I would say the 'Vette is a sports car.
Muscle cars are perfect descriptor.
Take a relatively normal car body and throw a giant engine with crazy HP in it. Muscle car. No handling because the body is just a mess.
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Vette is absolutely a sports car. Body and engine designed for performance.
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Alfa Romeo 4C is probably one of the best on the market in the small sports car categories.If by "BT" you mean "broken teeth" as in the synchro rings in the transmission, mine did
BTW, as a nit-picky thing the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger are pony cars, not sports car
I would definitely do that. I imagine the Aura isn't exactly highly valuable these days, it might save you some on insurance, and at this point even if you do make a few bucks off the sale it might not be really worth getting rid of. Aka the point where the item has devalued so much it's not worth selling and better saved for use.
It really shouldn't be 45 minutes though. It's not downtown Boston traffic. First off, its outbound from the city in the morning. I'm just on the border from city to suburbia, kind of a strange hybrid, and I'm heading further out into suburbia. Much of the driving is through very suburban areas. It takes about 20min in non-rush hour traffic. Or if I decide to be healthy I can make it on my bike in about <30min in rush hour.
BlueTooth silly. But yes, broken teeth as well.If by "BT" you mean "broken teeth" as in the synchro rings in the transmission, mine did
I refuse to get back into one of these semantic debates over "sports car" here. If you want I'll be more than happy to create the Vehicular Nomenclature Summit in the PRSI section. (But I assume we'll have to fight over the name of the thread I just suggested first)BTW, as a nit-picky thing the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger are pony cars, not sports car
Oh, I know that. It's a 15 minute drive to get out of suburbia and then skirt the city center and then onto the freeway. I tend to head out around 9 AM and get away from traffic congestion. There's massive traffic on the way to the coast or if you're a professional working in Los Angeles, the city. You'll find yourself in near gridlock traffic from 6:20 AM to 8:45 or so. Often it's because people are driving too slow or slow down to see someone getting pulled over and it causes a chain of events.I like NorCal roads the most because they're vast and not as many cars as SoCal. There's also some very scenic roads. Best of all, there's little traffic.
For some reason when I make lists I always forget it, but to me the Corvette is, always has been, and remains one of the few true American sports cars and a darn good one at that.
Wait, you just described an M3
My point being, it's not just a 3-series, cars based on less performance oriented platforms can be very effective and come with a huge cost perk!
That's why I generally use "performance car" (... and there's such a wide range of performance oriented vehicles) with the understanding that's across the spectrum of performance attributes: acceleration, top end, braking, handling and all those available repeatedly (another attribute being "endurance"). There was a time when the industry was packing huge CI motors into heavy family sedans, but some of the current batch of performance oriented domestics have their roots in built-from-the-ground-up as a more balanced performance offering.
All the labeling kind of makes me nuts, but _if_ I were to label the current iteration of my vehicle, I'd say my GT is a ... GT
(with maybe a slight nudge towards the performance bias)
I have specifically heard the M3 described as a German muscle car, which isn't really unreasonable.Wait, you just described an M3
My point being, it's not just a 3-series, cars based on less performance oriented platforms can be very effective and come with a huge cost perk!
That's why I generally use "performance car" (... and there's such a wide range of performance oriented vehicles) with the understanding that's across the spectrum of performance attributes: acceleration, top end, braking, handling and all those available repeatedly (another attribute being "endurance"). There was a time when the industry was packing huge CI motors into heavy family sedans, but some of the current batch of performance oriented domestics have their roots in built-from-the-ground-up as a more balanced performance offering.
All the labeling kind of makes me nuts, but _if_ I were to label the current iteration of my vehicle, I'd say my GT is a ... GT
I drove a friend's new Camry base model and it was incredibly dull to drive. Floaty, CVT roared, but no power.
I'm not sure what everyone is expecting out of a Camry. It does exactly what it is supposed to. A boring appliance for the masses. All of its competitors drive the same, except for the Mazder 6.
Also, the non-hybrid Camry doesn't have a CVT. It's a 6AT.
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I think that description is more accurate for the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG.
I don't miss the days of working between 2 hospitals during my residency. One, the hospital I work now, the other smack dab in the middle of Boston. As I'm sure you know, Boston has one of the worst road systems in America. There's no grid, no logic, constant construction. It's a mess. I often took the train, but honestly back then the MBTA was so unreliable it was barely worth it. At the same time of day, on the same day of the week, the train could take 30-40 minutes... or an hour and a half.
I can't wait until Boston gets these new Chinese trains. They're designed by a Chinese firm without a ton of experience... BUT they got a really great price on them!!!!!!!
I know Boston "quite well," but not as well as a Native Bostonian. When on business, I usually arrange private transport just so I can unwind from the hectic travel and because East Coast Life is too fast paced for me. Though I do like being able to get anything you want in NYC or Boston, to an extent. I did look up your hometown once because I'd forgotten what the homes there looked like. I really like them. They're what I'd expect in a good novel set in New England. I simply can't imagine living there during the winter. I particularly like older homes renovated to the 21st century while maintaining their 19th century or early 20th century charm. Beautiful homes reminiscent of the English countryside.I don't miss the days of working between 2 hospitals during my residency. One, the hospital I work now, the other smack dab in the middle of Boston. As I'm sure you know, Boston has one of the worst road systems in America. There's no grid, no logic, constant construction. It's a mess. I often took the train, but honestly back then the MBTA was so unreliable it was barely worth it. At the same time of day, on the same day of the week, the train could take 30-40 minutes... or an hour and a half.
I can't wait until Boston gets these new Chinese trains. They're designed by a Chinese firm without a ton of experience... BUT they got a really great price on them!!!!!!!
There's two types of Chinese made; stuff assembled in China and literally made in China. Tech is assembled in China but quality varies. I wouldn't trust anything else from China like a rail system. The Japanese or the French are better at that stuff.
At the end of each work day, I'm sure you feel immense pride in helping people feel better.
Well, I wouldn't call myself a native Bostonian either, though I've spent much of my adult life here. Technically my area is not part of Boston, but fortunately we still have a lot of benefits of Boston like light rail and bus systems. I'm about 10min to Fenway and 15-20 to downtown via light rail train/subway while living in a fairly suburban area. It's a cool spot to be. I grew up in Connecticut, so at heart I'm not a city guy.
I will say New England has some great roads for fun driving. Even the occasional jaunt down Storrow Drive can be fun. The MassPike (I-90) in the past week finally is switching completely to fully electronic tolling. No more toll booths and associated issues. If you don't have an EZ-Pass transponder, they mail you the bill.
The trains are designed by a Chinese firm but will be assembled in Mass. The company CRRC has no other contracts in the US so hopefully they'll do a good job as they're inclined to earn more US contracts. Our Red and Orange line trains here are Bombardier (Canadian) and have been in service for over 40 years, more than a decade over their life cycle. Hopefully the new trains can attain that.
The MBTA has an awful track record with trains though, especially on the Green line which I use. They tend to have issues getting new trains to fit around all the corners and have the doors clear the platforms. In the 70's the federal DOT encouraged Boeing to build trains for the first time for Boston (and San Franscico) as a post-war support. Apparently they were junk. In the late 90's they switched to Breda (Italy) which took years to get on track due to design oversights and have been tremendously unreliable. The backbone has been these 80's era trains from Kinky Shiro (Japan), many of which have recently been returned by Alstom (France). They've evidently save the MBTA from the disaster of the Boeing train failure and the major install issues of newer Breda trains.
The MBTA is a **** show though $5B+ plus $7B in backlogged work. It wasn't until about a year ago they had electronic tracking on the Green line trains. Before that drivers had to radio in their location and you'd never know how far away a train was.
Drawing this back to cars, interestingly the Breda trains we have were designed by Pininfarina, but let's just say they're not on the top of the list of elegant designs at all. Pininfarina has undoubtably put out some of, if not many of, the sexiest and most iconic car designs in history.
Hey, I like Chinese trains
(BTW, I went hunting on the internet for pictures since I knew I couldn't put my fingers on my personal ones at the moment. Fortunately, I found mine where I'd posted them on another message board 8 years ago. For anyone interested, I think these were shot with a Canon 20mm lens on the now-departed Kodak UltraColor 400 print film. There's a small chance they were shot on Velvia, but I don't think I was using a lot of it at the time and the color profile looks wrong to me).
(BTW, I went hunting on the internet for pictures since I knew I couldn't put my fingers on my personal ones at the moment. Fortunately, I found mine where I'd posted them on another message board 8 years ago. For anyone interested, I think these were shot with a Canon 20mm lens on the now-departed Kodak UltraColor 400 print film. There's a small chance they were shot on Velvia, but I don't think I was using a lot of it at the time and the color profile looks wrong to me).
Very impressive post, A. You'd get along with our VP. I had no idea Pininfarina did trains. I'd been told a long time ago that they did things other than cars but I never really looked into them. Just one of those things you say you'll look into but get too lazy to do.
I've been on trains only a handful of times in my life. I've ridden in some old classics and a couple newer ones. I don't like the feeling of riding on rails. It reminds me too much of a roller coaster. It's as if any moment you expect the car to derail and explode. Coincidentally, VAG's Audi division is supposedly building a train to move vehicles from their factories.
I had no idea Pininfarina did trains. I'd been told a long time ago that they did things other than cars but I never really looked into them. Just one of those things you say you'll look into but get too lazy to do. I've been on trains only a handful of times in my life. I've ridden in some old classics and a couple newer ones. I don't like the feeling of riding on rails. It reminds me too much of a roller coaster. It's as if any moment you expect the car to derail and explode. Coincidentally, VAG's Audi division is supposedly building a train to move vehicles from their factories.
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Now they're owned by the Indian company Mahindra
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I almost forgot about the car community on here, haha. I just purchased my very first car (historically I've only owned trucks, and continue to do so). It's a 2002 Camaro SS, absolute mint condition with only 40,000 miles on the clock. 35th anniversary of the Camaro and the last of it's original run, and with the legendary LS1 engine. Loving it so far, it's such a nice break from my truck. Of course there's just some places it simply can't and won't go or do so that's where my truck comes in as it's still my daily. I love them both.
Plenty of power, decent milage (21 avg so far), T-Tops (last of it's kind), and crazy wide tires for a car (275).
Gotta love this guy though, goes everywhere you want it to.
Plenty of power, decent milage (21 avg so far), T-Tops (last of it's kind), and crazy wide tires for a car (275).
Gotta love this guy though, goes everywhere you want it to.
Needless to say, that's why my dad went for a 2015 MKS with 15,000 miles rather than buying new...