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bunnspecial

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20W-50 is the charm for leaks. Finally working from the Matthew-Daewoo playbook I see. :D :p

Hey, I resent that :)

I pay more for a quart than Matthew did for his last oil change. I also actually change it :)

BTW, you know you have a problem when you're running 20W-50 and it STILL leaks...albeit that's what most of these old British cars spec and they still leak. If I ran the same synthetic 5W-20 that I run in the Lincoln, it would probably pour out the bottom as if I'd left the drain plug out :)

I have a bottle of VR-1 SAE 50 on the shelf, and last week I was in Autozone and found VR-1 SAE 60. I've been hunting down heavy straight weight oils for the carb dampers. I had used 20W-50, although John Twist suggest EP-90 gear oil(they're rated on different scales, so actually are about the same viscosity). Following his "heavier is better" philosophy I've kept my eyes open for straight weight oils. I actually can use cheap non-detergent oil in this application, but VR-1 is all that seems to turn up.

You should hear the car cranking at 20W-50 when it's on the chilly side outside. That aside, I did manage last winter to to get it started at around 5º...
 
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These two quotes below. What on earth is going on here???!!!!


Mr. The GL is had the best most sophisticated interior and is the best car ever and it feels like it "rides on rails" level of uncomfortable :D

I don't understand. Do you mean to say that I am contradicting all my previous statements? I love the Neiman Marcus QP, but I personally wouldn't go out of my way to purchase a car whose NM package adds $10k to the sticker. Heck, I use Macs, yet I would NEVER go out and buy a new Mac (not just because Tim Cook is ruining Apple but because I'd never spend upwards of $1000 on ANY computer, out of principle). My main machine is a 2009 Mac Pro that I got for free and fixed up.

Of course, I slightly digress.
 

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Tesla may be overtaking Mustang drivers in the stupid department.Thankfully the only real victim here is a crummy E220d.

 

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I know every car regardless of marque gets into accidents but every time I see a Tesla involved in one, I hate and hate the brand even more.
I can see their appeal for non car people. Maybe car people who love the instant torque or the tech factor. I can't take the brand seriously. They sell themselves as a luxury brand or at luxury prices, but their interiors are awful and the car is so poorly built in general. I can't fathom dropping 90K+ for the best models and feel like I've sat in a 1999 C Class.
 

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I know every car regardless of marque gets into accidents but every time I see a Tesla involved in one, I hate and hate the brand even more.

What I don't understand is that every Tesla accident gets huge media coverage... wtf is the point
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MY17 991.2 GT3 will be getting an updated engine with manual transmission again!

Who in their right mind would buy an automatic performance car if a manual is available...?

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Will look similar to the newly shown GT3 cup car

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/09/30/porsche-911-gt3-cup-racecar-paris/

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D.T.

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What I don't understand is that every Tesla accident gets huge media coverage... wtf is the point

I know, in the context of vehicles, a crash is a crash, it's not like it has some feature that let's it pass through solid matter (i.e., "How could this happen?")

MY17 991.2 GT3 will be getting an updated engine plus *manual* transmission again!

YES!
 

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Is it more low slung than the previous generation or is it the lighting? It looks rather good. The paint process makes it stand out. Three or four stage?
 

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What I don't understand is that every Tesla accident gets huge media coverage... wtf is the point
Because Tesla drivers are rather uppity about the fact they drive Teslas and it's the greatest thing since Netflix. Though I'd say the people who've never owned or sat in one are the worst at praising it.

The GT3 you posted is very nice. The Cup Car theme is also nice. The paintwork under the decals accentuate the hips.
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Not liking the wide openings in the air duct and grilles but otherwise standard AMG fare. The rear fenders should also be flared like the front.
Actually, the rear fenders give it some depth. The rear bumper is also shorter giving the car's backside a more stout appearance. I like it so far, but I'll have to see it in person to judge it fully.
 

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Not liking the wide openings in the air duct and grilles [...]

They're very conspicuous. I was wondering how people would respond - and in those photos, the angle/lighting makes the coolers behind them very visible - which I actually dig on (it's function design!)
 

iLog.Genius

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They're very conspicuous. I was wondering how people would respond - and in those photos, the angle/lighting makes the coolers behind them very visible - which I actually dig on (it's function design!)

I'm sure it's functional but those are some major gaps! It's like why bother even adding any horizontal slats! I think it's going to even more conspicuous if the car is in white or a lighter color. Perhaps we're all just too used to the mesh/honeycomb grille that's usually used.
 

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They're very conspicuous. I was wondering how people would respond - and in those photos, the angle/lighting makes the coolers behind them very visible - which I actually dig on (it's function design!)

I agree. I love how you can see the coolers and structural bits from the front.

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D.T.

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It's like why bother even adding any horizontal slats!

They likely direct, stabilize, and smooth out the airflow (sometimes a big hole, with tons of turbulence gives you less effective airflow).

... or they designers just thought they looked cool. :D

Who in their right mind would buy an automatic performance car if a manual is available...?

Did not see this edit before ... exactly, I mean, you might be able to convince me if the other choice was a DCT, or you had some really painful daily commute, otherwise you're really diluting the experience!
 
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What I don't understand is that every Tesla accident gets huge media coverage... wtf is the point
[doublepost=1477842684][/doublepost]http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/26/2017-porsche-911-gt3-spy-shots-manual-transmission/

MY17 991.2 GT3 will be getting an updated engine with manual transmission again!

Who in their right mind would buy an automatic performance car if a manual is available...?

porsche-911-gt3-facelift-002-copy-1.jpg


porsche-911-gt3-facelift-001-copy-1.jpg


porsche-911-gt3-facelift-003-copy-1.jpg


porsche-911-gt3-facelift-009-copy-1.jpg


Will look similar to the newly shown GT3 cup car

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/09/30/porsche-911-gt3-cup-racecar-paris/

02-2017-porsche-911-gt3-cup-paris-1.jpg


04-2017-porsche-911-gt3-cup-paris-1.jpg

As a person who likes driving, it's great that the GT3 has a manual again but if you're going to use it as its intended - some serious track work, PDK just makes sense. I've come to accept DCTs and don't mind them given their application in cars that would utilize it best.
 

bunnspecial

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I know that DCTs and the like are quantifiably better in a lot of ways.

With that said, I've seen a lot of discussion on this thread about one particular modern pony car that someone is planning on buying having such wonderful "road feel" and "driver engagement." I can't imagine buying such a car WITHOUT a manual transmission, especially when there is a really good manual transmission available for the car.

BTW, as I'm sure some of you are tired of hearing, I do have a sports car as a secondary/fun car. When I'm driving that car, my arms and legs are doing everything to control the car. My arms(via the wheel, column, and rack and pinion) are the only things providing power to turn the wheels. My right leg-of course with the help of hydraulics-is the only thing operating the brakes.

I have a hard time finding driver engagement to that level in much of anything where you're so isolated from the steering and the brakes. Putting a torque converter on the back of the engine just takes that away even more.
 
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I know that DCTs and the like are quantifiably better in a lot of ways.

With that said, I've seen a lot of discussion on this thread about one particular modern pony car that someone is planning on buying having such wonderful "road feel" and "driver engagement." I can't imagine buying such a car WITHOUT a manual transmission, especially when there is a really good manual transmission available for the car.

You might as well called me out as it is obvious..... :p

I still do plan to test drive the manual transmission version of the car( last attempt, the dealer didn't have any manual SS's in stock). I am leaning auto because of it will be a daily driver and bumper to bumper traffic will not be fun with a manual transmission. I have heard nothing, but praises though of the Tremec in the Camaro so we will see. If the Camaro was my secondary car, manual would be the favorite. I have to balance all that "road feel" and "engagement" with the practicality of daily driving as it is currently planned to be the primary vehicle.
 

bunnspecial

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Although I don't do it regularly, I can and have driven the MG as a daily driver sometimes for a couple of weeks at a time.

If you don't have to gab on your phone your whole way home, a manual isn't that bad in stop and go once you get use to it. I can sometimes irritate people because I tend to not move until there's a car length or so in front of me rather than inching foward every few seconds, but I figure I'm saving my clutch and brake pads in addition to wear and tear on myself. Just don't fall into the habit some of my friends have of riding the clutch the entire time they're stopped.
 

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Toyota is trying too hard to make the Camry to appear to be sporty.... The 2018 Camry will be sporting quad exhaust tips....

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/31/2018-toyota-camry-spy-shots/#slide-4253489

Sonata 2.0T already does it. Why does it matter? It's about time Toyota starts putting turbos into their mainstream cars!

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Heck, I use Macs, yet I would NEVER go out and buy a new Mac (not just because Tim Cook is ruining Apple but because I'd never spend upwards of $1000 on ANY computer, out of principle). My main machine is a 2009 Mac Pro that I got for free and fixed up.

Um... what? I will never understand this "OMG Jobs would've never done XYZ" non-sense that people spew these days.
 

quagmire

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Sonata 2.0T already does it. Why does it matter? It's about time Toyota starts putting turbos into their mainstream cars!

Turbo's don't make cars sporty and I think we discussed it earlier, I am a fan of naturally aspirated, but do appreciate the feeling of the low end torque turbo's can give.

I think Toyota is trying too hard to change the Camry's perception of being beyond bland and overcompensating with the last two iterations as they aren't exactly lookers. That Sonata with quad tips doesn't appear to be trying hard. Those quad tips are nicely done and isn't meant to make a car appear like something it isn't. We'll have to see what the 2018 Camry will do and I certainly hope Toyota stops trying to over do things.
 

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They used to back in the day. Now every Tom, Dick and Harry has a turbo. In the lead up the 2000s and the first half, the word turbo was attached to just about anything. Even pet toys. I recall seeing the word "Turbo" stamped on a canister filter I imported from Europe about 15 or 16 years ago. Though that could have been a mistranslation during export.
 
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