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I have to question this one.
Changing the oil on a car is pretty much one of the most basic maintenance tasks you can do(along with changing disk brake pads). Oil changing 101 will tell you that it's usually best to put in less than the "book spec" then check the stick and add more as appropriate.
How are folks determining that the dealership is only adding 6-8 quarts?
When I have had my oil changed at the dealership, I look at the paperwork for the reported oil added and then pulled the stick and checked it.
If they added less than the "book" capacity, a likely cause is that it just didn't get drained as completely. Since I take the lazy way out, I usually let the car drip for a half or or so after I pull the plug, then do the same after I pull the filter. I usually get more oil out than a quick change place or dealer that only gives each a couple of minutes, but honestly you will never get ALL of the old oil out short of stripping the engine and I don't lose any sleep over what gets left behind.
I'll also interject a comment on the fact that I have an engine sitting in the corner of my garage that hasn't run since I think mid 2016 or so. It was pulled and replaced due to a crack in one of the cylinder walls, and I bought it from the mechanic since it was in his way and it's been a great parts donor for me. When I loaded it up at the mechanics, we had to pull the head to get it in my trunk and have the trunk close. Despite not having run in ~6 months at the time, it still leaked probably a half quart in my trunk(thank goodness for the cardboard I put down). I pulled the distributor drive gear out of it not too long ago, and it had a nice coating of oil still.
I guess my point is that if the stick reads between the marks with 8 quarts, that was the right amount to put in the car. If you pick your car up after an oil change and the oil is off the stick(2 quarts down usually is, 3 or 4 definitely would be) don't drive it off the lot until they've fixed it.
Some service advisors are not that knowledgeable, but it’s Not their job to know/understand _every_ issue that you’re referring Wrong with a vehicle or perhaps how you explained it to them maybe was interpreted differently. Their job is to document the issue, estimate a time to complete the repair, quote a repair/diagnostic fee and relay the information to the technician who will actually diagnose and confirm the problem or inspection, (Among other miscellaneous responsibilities). Then of course once they have the issue confirmed, they explain it to you based off the technician notes. A lot of times if I don’t understand or believe the service writer is explaining the issue correctly, I will request to speak directly to the technician and have them explain the issue to me. It shows you the differences between a technician and a service writer experience/knowledge.
There are some very knowledgeable service writers who have prior automotive history, but I have come across other writers who don’t know every single issue that can go wrong a vehicle, and I don’t think they should be expected to have an answer to every problem or give an exact answer at the time you explain it to them.
I have come across many dealerships where the service writers are not completely knowledgeable on more intricate issues versus just standard maintenance problems. It really varies on how experienced the service writer is, how long they been in the automotive industry, were they a technician at one point prior, training, etc. Its all relative, but variable.
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I picked this up on Friday from Honda in Cardiff and it’s the first Honda I’ve owned. Very impressed overall and just as nice to drive as the VW Passat I part exchanged it for. My old car had an electrical fault that was becoming a nightmare to diagnose so I thought best just to get rid of it sharpish. My CRV has an extended service plan on it that the elderly one previous owner took out at great expense before selling it 12 months later lol.
It’s not flash like some of your cars on here but it suits my family. A good little buy
It’s not flash like some of your cars on here but it suits my family. A good little buy
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Because the invoice said they only used 6-8 quarts of new oil and they checked the stick and was dry before leaving the dealer.
And I know about initially adding less than book spec initially then checking the stick because I know you're not going to get all the old oil out. I initially put in 9 quarts when I did my oil change then kept adding until the stick read full. It ended up taking all 10 quarts.
I am not expecting them to know everything and I know their job is just to document the issue ( and of course sell the customer on services). But there is nothing hard to understand me asking to have them check the intake valves. I didn't go into a lengthy request saying something like, " Hey since the engine is DI and I know there are issues of carbon building up on the valves since the fuel doesn't wash them anymore, can you have them check the valves for build up?" I simply went, " While it is in, can you have them check the intake valves for build up?" Simple question and all she had to do was put that into the computer. But I got the deer into the headlights look and then stated yeah they check the intake system already with the 50,000 mile service that they were doing. Gave up at that point and said ok.
I very much doubt you'll ever have an electrical fault on a Honda.I picked this up on Friday from Honda in Cardiff and it’s the first Honda I’ve owned. Very impressed overall and just as nice to drive as the VW Passat I part exchanged it for. My old car had an electrical fault that was becoming a nightmare to diagnose so I thought best just to get rid of it sharpish. My CRV has an extended service plan on it that the elderly one previous owner took out at great expense before selling it 12 months later lol.
It’s not flash like some of your cars on here but it suits my family. A good little buy
Enjoy your new car.
Okay-that's a bad screw-up but if it happened to me I'd walk back in with the dry stick and tell them to add more.
I'd find it hard to believe that the problem is rampant, though. Even if you go to Jiffy Lube, the capacity pops up on their computer screen when they key in the VIN.
I'm not making excuses, as that's a negligent tech, but as long as they correct it without any hassle and don't let it happen again I'd not use that as a reason to dismiss always using them for service.
I don't think any economy brand matches style, quality, and reliability quite like Honda. We also have a CR-V! Enjoy it in good health.I picked this up on Friday from Honda in Cardiff and it’s the first Honda I’ve owned. Very impressed overall and just as nice to drive as the VW Passat I part exchanged it for. My old car had an electrical fault that was becoming a nightmare to diagnose so I thought best just to get rid of it sharpish. My CRV has an extended service plan on it that the elderly one previous owner took out at great expense before selling it 12 months later lol.
It’s not flash like some of your cars on here but it suits my family. A good little buy
I picked this up on Friday from Honda in Cardiff and it’s the first Honda I’ve owned. Very impressed overall and just as nice to drive as the VW Passat I part exchanged it for. My old car had an electrical fault that was becoming a nightmare to diagnose so I thought best just to get rid of it sharpish. My CRV has an extended service plan on it that the elderly one previous owner took out at great expense before selling it 12 months later lol.
It’s not flash like some of your cars on here but it suits my family. A good little buy
I hate to be the one to point it out, but there's some kind of pixelization on your front bumper, maybe the dealer can buff it out ....
Thanks guys. Yeah after a weekend driving it I’m loving it. I owned a Kia Sportage a few years ago and that was dreadful so this is my first SUV since then and I’m converted again. I’ve always found Toyotas to be reliable and nice to drive and this Honda is no different. The VW Passat was a lovely car but not as reliable as I’d hoped, but better than the BMW 5 Series I had before it. I think I’m done with German cars for a while to be honest. My dads Audi A6 has had some trouble but thankfully is still under warranty. He’s now fancying a Honda and some significant spare change!! lol.
Nice CR-V. It looks like it was optioned our fairly nicely. What engine does it have? The CR-Vs, especially on UK roads, should be silky smooth compared to the majority of American roads. Fantastic road trip car. Enjoy!
For a long time from the 80s, it was Toyota you went to for quality and interior. That changed not long after and you had a choice between Honda and Toyota. Both have and still make quality cars. Though in today's market, I lean on Honda simply because they offer more at around the same price points. However, Honda is facing an issue with selling their Accords as noted several pages back, and will soon give $1,200 or so cash backs on leases to get the ball rolling. Sales picked up slow but they're facing a lot of problems. The Camry, on the other hand, is a wonderful car. The new Civic is a superb car compared to the Corolla. Both are good, but the Civic nudges ahead more.
The one time I took it to the dealer for an oil change, it was filled correctly with 10 quarts.
But as stated, other people at their dealers have had only 6-8 quarts put in. I could somewhat understand if this was back in 2015 into 2016 when the 6th gen just came out and the techs were just used to the LS3 which took 8 quarts. But the fact this is still happening recently is inexcusable. Some the dealers use high school kids( or low experience equivalent worker that is paid lower) to do the oil changes. Why pay a full on certified tech for an oil change as you said, an oil change is one of the most basic forms of car maintenance. So these kids are probably just going on autopilot as most cars that they see take 6 quarts. Drain, fill with 6 quarts, next car, rinse and repeat. Pure laziness.
And you're right always double check a dealers work. I did when the oil change was done. And I recognize there is work I won't be able or comfortable to do myself and will have to go to the dealer. And I do generally trust my dealer to get the work done correctly. I just want to reduce the exposure that maybe I get the bad apple tech/lot attendant. I knew most of the techs and other lot attendants. It was only 2-3 that would hoon a high HP car around the lot chirping the tires, etc. One got fired for putting transmission fluid in the sump instead of oil, so RIP....
Anyway.... Put the summer(OEM) wheels back on the car today. After moving the car back to its garage, forgot to check the air and reprogram the TPMS sensors. As I was plugging the air pump into the car, it started to get windy and it caught the door and flung it open and the door handle hit the side chipping the paint.
Ordered a dr.colorchip kit to repair it....
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Could be worse. An earthquake could cause your old baseball bats to slam into the car.
Next time grab a pool noodle, slit it, cover the door edge in wax and slip it on. That way you don't have issues. You'll have to turn off the dome light so your battery doesn't die, but it's better than chipped paint.
Next time grab a pool noodle, slit it, cover the door edge in wax and slip it on. That way you don't have issues. You'll have to turn off the dome light so your battery doesn't die, but it's better than chipped paint.
Indeed, no car is the same and behave differently. VW’s are good cars generally and I’m happy with my experience of them. I just don’t find them as reliable as their reputation suggests but I guess it’s the driving experience you buy into rather than reliability. Japanese cars on the other hand were always reliability first and style second.
As I was plugging the air pump into the car, it started to get windy and it caught the door and flung it open and the door handle hit the side chipping the paint.
You have some of the worst luck with that vehicle, from Persistent mice building Nests under the Hood, a random egg Falling from a Tree and damaging your paint, doorhandle chipping because of the wind, your headliner falling apart, etc.
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Nah. Clearly the person and not the car. Quag, stay out of my state. We don't want a massive earthquake or to slide away from the rest of the US.
Nah. Clearly the person and not the car. Quag, stay out of my state. We don't want a massive earthquake or to slide away from the rest of the US.
I am still planning that San Francisco trip..... So start that countdown.....
Anyway.... Put the summer(OEM) wheels back on the car today. After moving the car back to its garage, forgot to check the air and reprogram the TPMS sensors. As I was plugging the air pump into the car, it started to get windy and it caught the door and flung it open and the door handle hit the side chipping the paint.
I'd set it on fire and buy something new with the insurance money ...
Needs a drop to de-4x4 it and some additional outward offset
Reminded me of this cool part I had for my Z06, for shows you kind of want to show your interior, but keep people out _and_ prevent the door from blowing completely open in tight quarters.
A guy made these door bars - they connected to the latch on both sides, could be locked, super solid, prevented entry:
That's a pretty cool idea. I recently saw a video on a similar device but I believe it was OEM. I don't recall whose video it was but it was an SUV or car with the traditional latch and hinge, but it had a synthetic fiber strap that limited the door to only 45* verses nearly 90* in cars. I thought that was neat. Most people are good about not touching others cars and keeping some distance when leaning over to peer inside.I'd set it on fire and buy something new with the insurance money ...
Needs a drop to de-4x4 it and some additional outward offset
Reminded me of this cool part I had for my Z06, for shows you kind of want to show your interior, but keep people out _and_ prevent the door from blowing completely open in tight quarters.
A guy made these door bars - they connected to the latch on both sides, could be locked, super solid, prevented entry:
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Shows aside, the biggest issue I've had with car doors is they only had 2-3 rest points. The rest of the swing is free and more often than not, the rest points are useless depending on the parking conditions. Some cars come with free movement doors that can stop anywhere and don't have that free point between the rest points.
Stop by Bob's Donuts when you're there.I am still planning that San Francisco trip..... So start that countdown.....
Bob's is solid, we rode bikes, umm, in a way less than coherent state, at some dangerously late hour, pounded many ...
So three agencies in my area just dropped the Chevy Caprice PP models from service (Over 75 of them) and converted over to the eco-boost Explorers/Taurus. (Likely due to the discontinuation). Some of these prices are ridiculously low starting at $15,000 through (_Private sale_) for a 2014 with 50,000 miles. Likely a very hard 50,000 miles, but they won’t be retrofitted back to civilian vehicles, aside from deleting all the internal equipment. Really tempting, but I don’t know where I would put a fourth vehicle. I would opt for the county Caprice, as those don’t nearly have as much stop and go traffic as compared to city Caprice’s. These will sell fast at those prices. Ford Completely dominated the L.E. Auto Sales sector.
The state police is the only major agency I know of here that bought any significant number of Caprices.
I'm watching for them to start phasing them out and would like to pick up one when they do. As a general rule, KSP cars may be driven hard but they tend to get a lot more open road driving vs. the stop and go and idling of city police and sheriff's vehicles.
I'm watching for them to start phasing them out and would like to pick up one when they do. As a general rule, KSP cars may be driven hard but they tend to get a lot more open road driving vs. the stop and go and idling of city police and sheriff's vehicles.
Needs a drop to de-4x4 it and some additional outward offset
That picture was taken the moment it was lowered back down from the floor jack. Suspension didn't have time to resettle.
Nah, I don't want the wheels to stick out farther than they do cause don't want the tires to fling rocks into the side panel( hence the front rock guards to further prevent any damage). If it wasn't for that, I would totally pick up the MRR M017's for the car. But they only come in 20x10's and 20x11's.
