The MKZ is a surprisingly roomy car inside- moreso than the outside dimensions would make you think.
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The MKZ is a surprisingly roomy car inside- moreso than the outside dimensions would make you think.
Interesting Incentive:
I have Three Dodge dealerships in my city, all independently owned by separate possessors. The Demon starts around $84,500, one of the dealerships is actually advertising a new Demon for $82,200, and it “Includes” a 3-Day “Track Time Rally” Package. Basically with the purchase of the car, you receive a three day pass to a local track just outside my city that includes tracking the car through various time sets, a ‘Night comp’ package, which permits entry to compete against other cars (Saturday only), and a ‘Tutorial’ day where the driver/owner is educated how to take advantage of everything the Demon offers _before_ they track/compete against other cars.
But: (Of course)
The 3-Day track package must be used within 90 days the vehicle Purchase. Non-refundable/cannot be sold separately or discounted off the total price of vehicle.
The Demon with the track package _only_ is offered with that specific model in “Yellow Jacket” and cannot be substituted for any other color/model with that specific package.
I priced out what the package would cost if someone were to purchase the track package that is offered and it values out to approximately $450.00. If it Was me, I would likely not take advantage of the discount, especially in yellow jacket, I would rather much have a gray/charcoal or black in color and different wheels than what are on this model. I think that _specific_ dealership in my area is struggling to sell that model car, as it’s been listed for approximately 2.5 months for the same offering and has not sold as of yet, but seemingly they have moved other inventory for different colors. Nonetheless, I can appreciate the marketing tactic and its a way to add something To the car for the buyer.
I have Three Dodge dealerships in my city, all independently owned by separate possessors. The Demon starts around $84,500, one of the dealerships is actually advertising a new Demon for $82,200, and it “Includes” a 3-Day “Track Time Rally” Package. Basically with the purchase of the car, you receive a three day pass to a local track just outside my city that includes tracking the car through various time sets, a ‘Night comp’ package, which permits entry to compete against other cars (Saturday only), and a ‘Tutorial’ day where the driver/owner is educated how to take advantage of everything the Demon offers _before_ they track/compete against other cars.
But: (Of course)
The 3-Day track package must be used within 90 days the vehicle Purchase. Non-refundable/cannot be sold separately or discounted off the total price of vehicle.
The Demon with the track package _only_ is offered with that specific model in “Yellow Jacket” and cannot be substituted for any other color/model with that specific package.
I priced out what the package would cost if someone were to purchase the track package that is offered and it values out to approximately $450.00. If it Was me, I would likely not take advantage of the discount, especially in yellow jacket, I would rather much have a gray/charcoal or black in color and different wheels than what are on this model. I think that _specific_ dealership in my area is struggling to sell that model car, as it’s been listed for approximately 2.5 months for the same offering and has not sold as of yet, but seemingly they have moved other inventory for different colors. Nonetheless, I can appreciate the marketing tactic and its a way to add something To the car for the buyer.
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Granted BMW has already had this for a year or more in various models, Mercedes is venturing onto Wiress CarPlay. I think the convenince is their not having to use/rely on a wire where you can leave your iPhone wherever in vehicle to use CarPlay. Major Plus if the vehicle already supports wireless charging as well.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...system-will-feature-wireless-carplay.2117626/
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...system-will-feature-wireless-carplay.2117626/
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There is a resemblance and definitely look very European. I would rather much have the A4, personally.
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Yeah most definitely. You’d never sell a Lincoln in Europe I doubt. Chevrolet, Cadillac, Chrysler and Dodge have all tried and failed here and I can only guess the styling just doesn’t have appeal. Some of the American brands don’t seem to be very fuel efficient either.
I think a lot of American car manufacturers have transitioned into the European body style with the contoured lines and changing the headlight/tail lamp design. Its Interesting really to see the changes over the years if you take a domestic car from 10 years ago and compare to where it is today, the design cues have drawn closer to styles like Audi for example. I think the _appeal_ is everything for the initial attraction for the buyer and vehicles like BMW, Audi and Mercedes seem to age really well compared to various domestic cars.
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I haven't had any problems with wired CP in terms of phone placement, outside of my pocket (or I guess maybe the trunk[?]), I can put my iPX anywhere in my car: under the center stack, in the cup holders, in the center console, heck, even toss it over on the passenger seat - I've even had a backseat passenger use it, in CP, to manage the music.
Actually that "re-limits" phone placement as you have to have physical contact with the charging surface (vs. anywhere the device could work with wireless CP), so in the end, wireless CP + wireless charging is effectively the same as wired (with the latter having, maybe , slightly extra effort, but more placement flexibility).
I guess I'm weird on my use of SYNC.
I connect my phone with Bluetooth for hands-free calling, but play music using a physically wired iPod Classic.
I just leave the iPod in my car except for when I want to mess around with playlists or whatever. I never actually touch it-I can do everything I need to through Sync(even though, as a good Microsoft product, it's sometimes infuriating in how the voice commands need to be phrases).
I used to use an iPod when running and then stopped. I found the sounds from nature and the rush of wind across my ears more pleasant. I still use them when I'm doing other things and would rather be distracted with music rather than the racket from a motor.
Speaking of the Hellcat/Demon from my previous post:
Dodge teased some new images for the 2019 Hellcat Challenger. (Which, they likely will have a lot more coming in the next few months).
As someone who already is fond of the Hellcat/Demon, this new refresh exhibiting the snorkel type hood significantly changes the look of the car. I was always one to think that a hood can drastically change the look of a car, especially in the muscle era, and this hood looks to do exactly that for the Hellcat. There is other rumors indicating that the power might be increased and other outward facing changes.
Also, looking more closely, looks like the headlight area has some alterations.
I _really_ like the contrast here with the black insert and the snorkel type design. It makes me think of the [Later] 2002 Firebird Ram Air Hood with the snorkel/nostril design with the split peak coming down the middle. I honestly like this look much better than the single large hood scoop the current Hellcat has. Dodge also adds some stand-out colors to their line up as well.
Dodge teased some new images for the 2019 Hellcat Challenger. (Which, they likely will have a lot more coming in the next few months).
As someone who already is fond of the Hellcat/Demon, this new refresh exhibiting the snorkel type hood significantly changes the look of the car. I was always one to think that a hood can drastically change the look of a car, especially in the muscle era, and this hood looks to do exactly that for the Hellcat. There is other rumors indicating that the power might be increased and other outward facing changes.
Also, looking more closely, looks like the headlight area has some alterations.
I _really_ like the contrast here with the black insert and the snorkel type design. It makes me think of the [Later] 2002 Firebird Ram Air Hood with the snorkel/nostril design with the split peak coming down the middle. I honestly like this look much better than the single large hood scoop the current Hellcat has. Dodge also adds some stand-out colors to their line up as well.
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Even for a 2002 model, it really is shocking to see how this vehicle still looks so updated and not prehistoric in the muscle car era. I honestly don’t even recall the last time I have even found a WS6 2002 Firebird Trans Am on the road or at car shows. I don’t expect the new Hellcat hood to look exactly like this, but similar to the flared/raise nostril Hood.
I know I’m duplicating myself, but a muscle car hood really transforms the car and gives it the _stance_ that sets itself differently from all the other Muscle cars, and this is one hood that carries it self for this model Trans Am. Timeless.
I know I’m duplicating myself, but a muscle car hood really transforms the car and gives it the _stance_ that sets itself differently from all the other Muscle cars, and this is one hood that carries it self for this model Trans Am. Timeless.
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Unfortunately, I think the last generation of Trans Am is symptomatic of all that was wrong with GM at the time.
Pontiac ALWAYS had its own distinct identity as a brand, both in terms of styling and in terms of engines.
Fundamentally, though, there's no getting around the fact that the last gen Trans Am looks like a 4th gen Camaro with a body kit and hood scoops...
Pontiac ALWAYS had its own distinct identity as a brand, both in terms of styling and in terms of engines.
Fundamentally, though, there's no getting around the fact that the last gen Trans Am looks like a 4th gen Camaro with a body kit and hood scoops...
The Hellcat and SRT models already have a huge single scoop and big side ducts (the Demon has a massive single scoop), this isn't _that_ much of a change (protip: that's how _<inflection>_ works ...), and the teaser images circulating also have the widebody fenders - I wouldn't be surprised if Dodge doesn't make all Hellcats widebody (not unlike when Chevy did the same with C6 Vettes).
I wondered the same thing. After enlarging the image on my computer, I _believe_ its a Go-Pro attached with a portable mount near the fender area. That specific Trans Am was likely a Press car and/or Test reviewed at one point recording from multiple angles, likely with exhaust notes and the overall driving experience On the Roadway.
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/05/confirmed-cadillac-ats-sedan-wont-return-2019/
ATS is done for MY19. Coupe stays.
ATS is done for MY19. Coupe stays.
V flavor is fun, but needs a $15K-20K discount to be competitive
Yep, it's interesting, "SAVs" / crossovers are the new sedans, and SUVs are actually getting bigger, seating 6-7 and filling more of an actual 'U' function!
The article says they're to be "replaced by two strategically positioned sedans. de Nysschen envisioned the smaller of the two serving as a BMW 3 Series fighter."
Unless they're going to be electric or something, I'm not sure there's a time for this anymore. The small sedan now seems like a fit for entry level people who drive to and from work everyday OR upscale people who drive expensive German models and do that same thing.