I'll report if I end up with a working key, then we can all bad mouth the dealers and their perceived monopolies. Fingers crossed!
Hahaha, I'll be waiting to jump on the we-hate-dealers bandwagon
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Hahaha, I'll be waiting to jump on the we-hate-dealers bandwagon
I only ever had one key and fob for my Lincoln LS.
At the time, on FoMoCo products, it was possible to program to program both the KEY and the FOB by yourself, but it required having two working keys. At the time, genuine blanks were ~$50 on Ebay and my local hardware store doesn't even charge me to cut a blank(they only charge for the blank, and I'm a regular enough customer that if-for whatever reason-they don't stock a blank and I bring them one, they cut it for free). I had a valet key, and I thought I might be able to use that, but didn't want to chance it.
Also, at least at the time, most locksmiths could program keys but would "duplicate" the RFID tag from your working key. That works fine as a key, but won't let you program further keys on your own(since you needed two unique RFID tags for the DIY programming to work).
Anyone remember GM keys from the 1990s? Their "tag" was a resistor in the shank of the key. With a bit of effort, you can pop it out yourself and they only used 8 or 9 different values. With a cut key on hand, all you needed to make it functional was an VOM and a selection of resistors.
At the time, on FoMoCo products, it was possible to program to program both the KEY and the FOB by yourself, but it required having two working keys. At the time, genuine blanks were ~$50 on Ebay and my local hardware store doesn't even charge me to cut a blank(they only charge for the blank, and I'm a regular enough customer that if-for whatever reason-they don't stock a blank and I bring them one, they cut it for free). I had a valet key, and I thought I might be able to use that, but didn't want to chance it.
Also, at least at the time, most locksmiths could program keys but would "duplicate" the RFID tag from your working key. That works fine as a key, but won't let you program further keys on your own(since you needed two unique RFID tags for the DIY programming to work).
Anyone remember GM keys from the 1990s? Their "tag" was a resistor in the shank of the key. With a bit of effort, you can pop it out yourself and they only used 8 or 9 different values. With a cut key on hand, all you needed to make it functional was an VOM and a selection of resistors.
There are still some self programming keys out there according to the web site I mentioned.
The ND seems to have a fairly complicated setup compared to older generations. Though it still remains a passive key, meaning the programming to pair the key to the car is done to the car and not the key. There is a way to do the old method but it seems to require two working programmed keys to be in the car while you program a third.
I remember we had an Alfa when I was a kid. Didn't need a key to open it. Just a small tap with the palm of your hand near the handle. I worked this out at about 9 years old.
Btw it had a great two litre engine. But the body work was shocking. Rusty as hell.
And the dash used to light up like a Christmas tree with all the warning lights.
Btw it had a great two litre engine. But the body work was shocking. Rusty as hell.
And the dash used to light up like a Christmas tree with all the warning lights.
Recall my late grandparents' family friends saying something about an Alfa they had that would lock and unlock if you smacked the roof of it. It was either Alfa engineering or one of the earlier rollover systems, but taking into account the era of the vehicle, I'll go with Alfa engineering.
Though I'm a sucker for old Alfa interiors. Wood and metal steering wheel, clean interior, simple but nice seating, etc.
Though I'm a sucker for old Alfa interiors. Wood and metal steering wheel, clean interior, simple but nice seating, etc.
I’m naturally a planner by trade and always looking forward to other investments in the future. For a while now, I have had my sights on the GT 350 and I posted a picture back from February of a GT350 model and have been looking into this. I Mixed some numbers yesterday with a dealer (Know a few personally) and I think my next car is going to be the GT 350 with the trade of my SHO and current GT. I’m thinking somewhere around the next two/maybe three year mark I will upgrade at the latest.
Couple of reasons why the GT350:
1.) I don’t want a car that everybody ‘else has’ and if I do have a car similar to others ,I usually like to separate it by making it my own somehow. The GT 350 is just that standalone car. I posted this before, I’m not entirely fond of the S550 platform, but _this_ car is on another level. Not commonly found on the road, but they can Found Lightly used through auction or private sale with very little miles. And by that time, I possibly expect this car to be discontinued in production at the time of my upgrade, so value is pending. The GT 350 pictured below retails at $62,500. I would likely look for a used one with less than 10,000 miles/one owner. [I’m Not considering the ‘R’ model] With the GT 350, I don’t want to invest in the after market in terms of upgrades, I would rather have the car fully track ready as it is, as the GT 350 is more track orientated, especially in the handling segment. Plus, as much as it is exciting to modify your own car, the labor is so costly across the board with aesthetics and engine upgrades, I would rather have the *Whole package* per se.
2.) 5.2 Voodoo Flat plane crank. No need to elaborate further.
3.) Signficant upgrades with the chassis, performance drive shaft, Axles, suspension, brakes/rotors, Magneride, carbon fiber polymer radiator, recaro seats are an option.
4.) Tremec Six Speed.
5.) Already mentioned, but I wouldn’t modify other than just an exhaust upgrade (Thats a maybe). I would want this as original as possible, and I think the GT 350 meets my expectations.
The _Only_ thing I don’t like is the ‘Ford Fusion’ looking headlights from the 15/16/17 GT model. I would rather see the 2018 revised headlamp set up, I digress.
Ruby Red on black wheels with the staggered set Up. I think I want some stand out color like Orange Fury/Triple Yellow, maybe Race Red. But what a great color this is.
Just for fun, toyed with the 18’ Black accent package yesterday as well. Ford executed the revamp well. The front is so much better and the black roof really gives the car a nice contrast. This model was the 401-A Non P.P, approximately $43,000.
The dealership was pushing me hard to trade in my GT for this how interested I was in the GT350 and they sold some GT’s/Ecoboosts that day and I think they were feeling rather confident. I believe I know what my next car will be, and I look forward to the day.
Couple of reasons why the GT350:
1.) I don’t want a car that everybody ‘else has’ and if I do have a car similar to others ,I usually like to separate it by making it my own somehow. The GT 350 is just that standalone car. I posted this before, I’m not entirely fond of the S550 platform, but _this_ car is on another level. Not commonly found on the road, but they can Found Lightly used through auction or private sale with very little miles. And by that time, I possibly expect this car to be discontinued in production at the time of my upgrade, so value is pending. The GT 350 pictured below retails at $62,500. I would likely look for a used one with less than 10,000 miles/one owner. [I’m Not considering the ‘R’ model] With the GT 350, I don’t want to invest in the after market in terms of upgrades, I would rather have the car fully track ready as it is, as the GT 350 is more track orientated, especially in the handling segment. Plus, as much as it is exciting to modify your own car, the labor is so costly across the board with aesthetics and engine upgrades, I would rather have the *Whole package* per se.
2.) 5.2 Voodoo Flat plane crank. No need to elaborate further.
3.) Signficant upgrades with the chassis, performance drive shaft, Axles, suspension, brakes/rotors, Magneride, carbon fiber polymer radiator, recaro seats are an option.
4.) Tremec Six Speed.
5.) Already mentioned, but I wouldn’t modify other than just an exhaust upgrade (Thats a maybe). I would want this as original as possible, and I think the GT 350 meets my expectations.
The _Only_ thing I don’t like is the ‘Ford Fusion’ looking headlights from the 15/16/17 GT model. I would rather see the 2018 revised headlamp set up, I digress.
Ruby Red on black wheels with the staggered set Up. I think I want some stand out color like Orange Fury/Triple Yellow, maybe Race Red. But what a great color this is.
Just for fun, toyed with the 18’ Black accent package yesterday as well. Ford executed the revamp well. The front is so much better and the black roof really gives the car a nice contrast. This model was the 401-A Non P.P, approximately $43,000.
The dealership was pushing me hard to trade in my GT for this how interested I was in the GT350 and they sold some GT’s/Ecoboosts that day and I think they were feeling rather confident. I believe I know what my next car will be, and I look forward to the day.
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FWIW, I wouldn't buy the GT350 as an investment, especially with it continuing for 2 years after the original production target, there's plenty in new and used channels. It'll maintain its price better vs. a GT, but it's really not "collectible" like the R.
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The DS is a standard, 2-piece steel, due to FPC harmonics, the DTE team opted for a heavier, standard design, nothing really "performance" oriented about it.
The radiator is aluminum, not sure where you got that incorrect info that it's some kind of exotic material (that certainly wouldn't provide improved cooling, carbon fiber?), in fact, it's the same upgraded part used in the GT with the Performance Package.
Mag suspension is now an option on the MY18+ non-GT350 cars (so are Recaro seats for that matter).
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How about some new information about the GT350
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...iling--new-2019-shelby-gt350-adds-tech-.html#
Nice to see some continued development for the platform! LOVE the new spoiler (haven't see the variant with the Gurney flap yet).
more info at Autoblog:
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/06/11/2019-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350-upgrades/
2019 B-roll
Yeah, carbon fiber is a great material but it's about as terrible of a choice as you could imagine for a radiator...
I know this is unrelated, but I bought a new camera tripod about a month ago. I looked at a couple of aluminum models, but ended up with carbon fiber. CF has been the go-to high end tripod material for probably ~15 years. It's stiffer than aluminum for the same legs while also being significantly lighter, but aside from that one often cited advantage is that it won't freeze you in the winter or burn you in the summer when you go to manipulate it like aluminum will.
Cars are never good investments. It's why I never get the whole resale argument people make when car buying. I am never going to buy a car I don't like simply because it will hold its value better. Now if I had a hard time deciding between two cars and I liked them both very much would resale potentially come into play.
With that said, I love the GT350. I wish I could go and drive one without dealing with the salesman BS( and I truly don't want to waste their time either since it would be a joy ride and not a serious buyer). The Voodoo sounds so freaking good and I still prefer the '15-'17 look of the S550 over the refresh( but would certainly choose S550 refresh over Camaro refresh) so the GT350's untouched looks is just fine for me.
The biggest drawback would be the fact the Voodoo likes to eat oil. I believe Ford calls 1 quart for every 500 miles if driven aggressively as normal. I am not sure what aggressive would mean( as in RPM range, but I imagine regular trips north of 5000-6000 RPM). But that wouldn't stop me from buying one especially if it will be a weekend toy where it may take 3-5 months to go 500 miles. But it certainly wouldn't be a daily driver for me with that oil burn rate.
With that said, I love the GT350. I wish I could go and drive one without dealing with the salesman BS( and I truly don't want to waste their time either since it would be a joy ride and not a serious buyer). The Voodoo sounds so freaking good and I still prefer the '15-'17 look of the S550 over the refresh( but would certainly choose S550 refresh over Camaro refresh) so the GT350's untouched looks is just fine for me.
The biggest drawback would be the fact the Voodoo likes to eat oil. I believe Ford calls 1 quart for every 500 miles if driven aggressively as normal. I am not sure what aggressive would mean( as in RPM range, but I imagine regular trips north of 5000-6000 RPM). But that wouldn't stop me from buying one especially if it will be a weekend toy where it may take 3-5 months to go 500 miles. But it certainly wouldn't be a daily driver for me with that oil burn rate.
Well, I guess they could make it out of fresh bread dough, that might be worse, but it would be so much more delicious.
A guy who used to live next door to my parents was a "sailing engineering consultant", he would fly all over the world and consult with high end sailing teams, like LV Cup type boats. Really interesting guy, he was originally from New Zealand - anyway, he did a lot of his own sailboat fab work right at his house, including bagging his own carbon fiber parts! I remember when I had my Supra with the extremely nice CF hood, he had a blast talking about all the nuances with the material, then proceeded to show me a mast he had made in his workshop. It was nuts, like 25-30 feet tall, but so light it almost wasn't present (the size vs. weight kind of shorted out your brain). Of course, it was also flexible, because certain kinds of forces need to be met without complete rigidity.
Never buy a British car
Their horrid reliability is enough to scare me away without them burning oil. Shame too because I do like Jaguars especially the F-Type coupe.....
It's not that high in normal usage, speaking from 100s of reports from actual owners (aggregated into a spreadsheet) and two people I know personally with them. In fact, one of those two guys tracks his pretty regularly here in the Southeast, and he doesn't burn oil at that rate. Most people are seeing 1/4 to maybe 1/2 a quart per 1500-2000 miles.
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You should go to like a C&C, usually a GT350 (or several
), and people at those events are always pretty cool about tossing you the keys (assuming you're not going to light up the tires and crash into spectators ...)
That's good. I get a bit concerned when the OEM says 1 quart in 500 miles is normal and reading mustang6g, some have seen 1 quart every 1000-1500 miles. But I know forums is going to be a place where complaints will go vs praises most of the time.
You should go to like a C&C, usually a GT350 (or several
I don't know I would feel comfortable driving another persons car either. I won't let anyone drive my Camaro and I don't know if I could control the Mustangs appetite for crowds of people at C&C.
That's good. I get a bit concerned when the OEM says 1 quart in 500 miles is normal and reading mustang6g, some have seen 1 quart every 1000-1500 miles. But I know forums is going to be a place where complaints will go vs praises most of the time.
I don't know I would feel comfortable driving another persons car either. I won't let anyone drive my Camaro and I don't know if I could control the Mustangs appetite for crowds of people at C&C.
So true, forums are definitely negative outliers, but I've researched it a decent amount since I've considered a GT350 on and off for a while. If I was going to get back into tracking my car, hands down, I'd get way more serious about shopping, but for a "street cruiser", it's kind of neat, but nothing beats my current convertible setup for that kind of use. There's also the Shelby branding, that you have to factor into the "value", it's a car that has a lot of subjective perks, since some of the more objective measures are comparable in other, less expensive models.
The Voodoo is what makes the GT350 a special car. If it just had a modified version of the Coyote, I don't think it would be as special as it actually is. The SS 1LE is $10K+ cheaper and is able to rival the track times of the GT350( of course the R is another monster of its own). The '18 GT is able to rival its straight line performance( and waiting on PP2 for track performance). It's that wonderful engine that draws people to the GT350, not so much its performance especially since in an earlier discussion, bunns is right in that a vehicles performance is not relevant to most people. The GT350 performs good enough and its subjective traits is what gets people to buy it.
Perhaps I should have elaborated more on my first post. In the sense of investment, I’m not concerned about the resale value, more or less, what I have invested in terms of aftermarket parts. For example, my GT I have already invested well over $5500 alone in aesthetics, wheels/tires and engine upgrades. I realize that it may not necessarily help the “Value” of the car, but It might appeal to a certain buyer or demographic when I do decide to sell it initially (Or, I might trade in pending). But more so, it’s about the appreciation that I have for the car in terms what I have wanted to invest in the car to “Make it my own” in modifying. (As I previously mentioned). Ultimately, I don’t expect any of the performance cars that I have owned or Plan to own necessarily hold value, but I do think there’s a rarity factor that follows, but that’s why am so particular about what I want for my next car, the “When” consideration takes care of itself.
Also what sparked this whole interest with the GT 350 for me, is that I found out that having two performance cars that are both literally in new condition in my garage, I have obviously a limited amount of time in my state due to winter months, I find that I’m not able to enjoy both of them as much in dividing my attention as I would like to during the nicer months. Ultimately resulting in myself wanting to trade/sell both of them at one point to have one really nice *stand out* performance car, and the GT 350 has been at the top of my list for a while (I have not driven one, but read/watched a plethora of reviews/driving experiences). Ultimately what I plan on doing, is finding a GT 350 through auction, which can be an easier process and it has some cost cutting factors, but it must have low miles and one owner. I have owned many performance cars over the years and my best experiences have been through private auctions, which might be my next route.
And truthfully, I could take my SHO and GT/CS right now and trade them both in for a lightly used GT 350 with low miles for proximally $49,000, 200 miles from my location. But that’s not really in my best interest at this current point, but it will be soon enough, guaranteed.
Also, another model car that I would consider that I have no experience with, would be the ZL1 (The supercharger alone has my interest piqued). Also for the record, I’m not looking just for a cruising car for car shows, I do want to have a more track oriented car without having to necessarily spend in addition to the performance of the vehicle. That’s really the main reason why I would opt a GT 350 Thats fully ready and prepped for the track. {I have two track speedways within 25 miles of residence.}
This was taken back in February. And this has been my future consideration for a while now, but orange fury will be a color that I want to be outlandish in this type of car. I Usually opt for black or white in cars, but if I’m going all in, this type of color is something that I’m considering.
I agree that some salesman can be overly aggressive and clearly are have alterior motive’s. But all together, the dealership that I was at yesterday from the photos I posted, I know two of the sales team members and they are all guys I could sit and talk cars for hours on. (I was there for two hours last night just talking numbers and my game plan.) I will say though if you do know somebody in car industry, it’s nice to provide talk your ideas with them and hear their feedback based on what my thoughts are and what they think would be feasible, especially with the GT 350 being fairly rare as it is.
But yes, the 5.2 Voodoo engine has had nothing but glorious reviews all around and I have yet to hear one in person or Drive one, but I expect to see at least one over the car shows this weekend/C&C meet. But I feel confident this will be my next car.
Never heard of this before. Not saying it’s untrue, but I would have to do some more initial reading/research on this, I’m assuming it’s obviously based on how the car is driven and what environments it’s driven in. One of the sales representatives last night has _a lot_ of experience with the GT 350 and I will Ask him and see what his thoughts are based off your post. Not that it’s an initial concern for me, but I would like to have as much knowledge as possible on a car like the GT 350. (Really hoping I find one this weekend at all the meets.)
How often would you track the car? The ZL1 is definitely more of a GT vehicle where it can go on the track where the GT350 is a track ready vehicle now that they made the auxiliary coolers standard. Since you're going to go used, make sure it is either a 2017 or newer or if a 2016, it has the coolers installed. The base GT350's that didn't have the coolers overheated easily( and that's my main concern with the GT PP2 since it doesn't come with the extra coolers and Ford recommends them for track use). I say that despite the awesome chassis that underpins the ZL1 because naturally aspirated is still the ideal track setup. With the supercharger, you have to worry about heat soak, etc. Even though the ZL1 seems to have better heat dissipation compared to the Z06. Though I also haven't heard much heat soak complaints in the Z06 after they made the changes to the LT4 in 2017. Not to say the ZL1 wouldn't be a good track vehicle either. But that supercharger will hurt its track readiness sort of speak.
But would those salesmen just throw me the keys and let me take one out for a test drive without them coming with me and limiting the route I take it on* knowing I am not a serious buyer?
* This is probably one of the worst things one can experience when buying a car. I somewhat understand the salesman coming with me on test drives for insurance purposes, but never do things to limit the route I take the car on. The round the block drive is and will never be enough for me to convince me the car is right for me. And while I was able to go alone when I test drove the Mustang GT, the gas tank was empty in both Mustang's limiting my route. I was half tempted to go fill it up myself, but the principal of knowing why they left the tanks empty made me go screw them. Where with the Camaro, I was able to take them out where I wanted for how long I wanted the two times I went to test drive it.
Like I said to D.T, forums like to make problems bigger than they really are, but the Voodoo does burn oil. How much depends on how you drive it( if you keep it mostly between 0-4000 RPM I think you will be fine with a little consumption). I think it's if you stretch the engine out to redline, will it start to eat oil. It depends on the engine too. As DT noted, he knows several that track their GT350's and it only burned 1/4-1/2 quart every 2000 miles. But I also don't like the fact Ford has said 1 quart for every 500 miles is considered normal if driven aggressively.
This was post war period. I'm guessing up until 1960, hence my doubt it was an integrated safety feature.
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I'll report if I end up with a working key, then we can all bad mouth the dealers and their perceived monopolies. Fingers crossed!
- I have a Miata keyfob from findyourkeylessremote.com. It cost $35 (dealer cost $200), purchased on Amazon and has a 100% satisfaction guaranteed sticker on it. I compared this with my original keyfob and it is an official refurbished key fob with the same FC ID on it as my original. The seller confirmed this.
- I was all prepared to go to my local Mazda dealer and pay them $140 to program it, but when I asked if I only pay if they successfully program it? They said with a key they don't provide, the technician deserves to be paid for his time effort. Fine and dandy except this is another dealer rip off. So I called the company in the first part and they told me that there was a high likelihood, that the dealer would either refuse to program it, or would tell you it failed to program to get me to buy their $200 version. They recommended an auto locksmith and gave me several names and phone numbers.
- So tomorrow, I'll be heading to the locksmith who charges $80 to program it, half the dealer cost and $5 to cut the key, 1/7 of the dealer charge.
- Total cost Dealer vs other vendors $375 vs $120.
Try these guys.
https://carkeysexpress.com
Not likely every weekend, but its something I would like to do more often, as I have been wanting a different experience other than just driving my car to ‘car shows’ and I think I want to opt for something completely out of the norm for me, and use the car as is intended, to be at a track. But I would like to run the car primarily at night, with cooler temperatures and less traffic. We have two really nice tracks in my city. Both as I mentioned are within a short driving distance. I think what I would want to do, is at Minimum experience the ZL1, Being I Have no experience with it. But in terms of handling, I have read (And heard) it is on another level of driving. That’s primarily what I’m looking for with the GT350. Also, I’m not looking for a weekend cruiser, I want something totally different in terms of how it handles, power and a track orientated car.
I feel like I read this somewhere about the overheating, but I question to what extent? (How long was it driven, tracked, does Ford acknowledge this?). But good advice about the 2017 model year, which is what I was considering. There are two 2017 used models within 200 miles of my location, both have less than 7000 miles, fully warrantied. Either way, I would certainly make sure of the added coolers per the 2016 model. But At the time I decide to upgrade, it will be around the two year mark, which would put the 2017 model already at 2020. (Which I doubt I would sway my thoughts Unless The ZL1 was a consideration.)
Truthfully, I think either vehicle would vehicle will Suit my needs for its uses, but The idea of a supercharger entices me, but its not a must. Heat soak is something to consider, but its not off putting from a consideration. But I really do want to drive the ZL1 before I make the transition, there is blue ZL1 used in my city from searching now. I still have the GT 350 top of the list for said reasons, but both vehicles are contenders and excellent vehicles ready for the track. I do think the ZL1 is priced higher for the sake of what it has to offer, but I will do more homework on this. And the Corvette is not an option for me, Even though that would be a another qualifier with the GT350 in that segment.
And that’s the benefit for me directly, because I I have connections inside certain dealerships who know me personally. Not that my intention is to purchase from a dealership, as I likely will Participate in an auction for said reasons, but I _have_ to physically test drive a car to know if it is the appropriate decision, and that means without having someone to nanny my every move. But if you’re someone that the Dealership realizes that you’re not a serious buyer, every sales rep may treat the situation differently, that’s all factored into the situation. For the record, when I asked regarding test driving the GT 350 last night, they never specified to me about any restrictions on any given route, Only the main requirements have to have a valid driver’s license, validated insurance and of course, you’re genuinely interested,( minus the joy riding factor). And I think dealerships are savvy enough to know if you’re someone is seriously considering a high-performance car like a GT 350, ZL1, Hellcat or even a base model GT for that matter.
I can’t say that I know this has actually happened to anyone at all that I know, and it’s certainly has not as happened to me. Perhaps it depends on the specific vehicle, but I have been on plenty of test drives for higher performance cars and while I have had some representatives drive with me in the car, never have they said anything specifically about where I had to drive, how long, speeds, etc. The point of driving higher performance cars is specifically that you're comfortable with it, especially if you’re spending that amount of money, The buyer should Content with everything about the car, and how is the buyer supposed to do that without experiencing it firsthand with just driving around the block.
Its very Simple, then the dealership doesn’t get my business. I have no problem going elsewhere to actually be confident in knowing exactly what I’m spending and making sure I’m purchasing the right vehicle for my expectations. But this is also another consideration why I like having connections inside dealerships, especially if their long-term employees who truly know that you’re serious, I think there are mitigating circumstances where they can venture on past what they’re ‘told to do’ on test drives for higher end cars.
Absolutely not. I’m not refueling a gas tank with my money for a test drive that’s the dealerships responsibility to monitor something like that. I’m not sure of the circumstances in your situation, but you should have said something if you didn’t. Especially if they know you’re a potential/serious buyer. I would address that immediately and I can’t see why a dealership wouldn’t take initiative when it comes to a car sale to make sure it has fuel for a test drive at minimum. That said, I have also never experienced empty gas tanks on test drives.
Apologies for being vague, but I Can’t attest/comment On various postings for other reasons per your quote.
And that’s why I mentioned earlier if it burns oil in various scenarios, it’s likely depending on how it’s driven and the environment it’s driven in. Just something you probably have to monitor, but not something a long-term consideration that would eliminate me from purchasing the GT350.
I’m going to research some more on this and see if I can find some more information , more specifically what others are experiencing, how much oil was consumed, driving conditions, how long the car was tracked for, etc. Lots of variables here that would all be something to dissect. I Plan on sending an email to the sales representative who I spoke with last night, who has extensive experience with GT 350. If he doesn’t know the answer, he will certainly get it for me. I would like to be more educated on this with any data, as this next car is almost a certainty.
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That crimson paint is drop-dead sexy. That white doesn't look good, though. I think it's the headlights, and I'm seeing what RP saw a few weeks ago.
If you can afford to own a car of your dreams, you can certainly afford the upkeep for it.
I don't get it either. Cars get abused and don't get abused. But driving them daily is abuse to structural integrity. Today's supercars can be daily'd. It's a dumb argument. I've spoken to at length about this with Goldy and I think it's something we can agree on. A car is meant to be used. If it's a future classic, just keep it in good shape. None of this garage queen stuff.
If you can afford to own a car of your dreams, you can certainly afford the upkeep for it.
Never buy a British car
@bunnspecial Hey, I sent you a PM for a friend looking at an MG, a few questions, but I passed on that comment to him