A V8 is what is "iconic" bout an US muscle car.....
Everything else is like a Porsche with a V or straight engine not in the back of the driver.
-> Ugly overpriced Audi
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A V8 is what is "iconic" bout an US muscle car.....
Everything else is like a Porsche with a V or straight engine not in the back of the driver.
-> Ugly overpriced Audi
I have no idea what engine a car rental gave me once. I was just happy it looked so much nicer than what they gave me previously (and I rejected a Trans Am because it had no CD player).
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That makes no sense to me...
The last generation('98 to '02 or so, I think) had a the standard GM radio of the era, which had a CD player. The previous generation (which ended in '92) either had a CD or tape player, and the tape player was in an era before CDs were in common use. I can't see your adamant black-and-white use case for having a CD player(being able to buy things to play in it on the road) being true back in the early 90s, as cassettes were plentiful right along side CDs from what I remember of the time...
Aside from that, the Trans Am IS about power-and I'd be just as happy to turn the sound system off and listen to the engine
It was in the late 90's. Maybe it was a '97 car or the rental company could just order them with a radio.That makes no sense to me...
The last generation('98 to '02 or so, I think) had a the standard GM radio of the era, which had a CD player. The previous generation (which ended in '92) either had a CD or tape player, and the tape player was in an era before CDs were in common use. I can't see your adamant black-and-white use case for having a CD player(being able to buy things to play in it on the road) being true back in the early 90s, as cassettes were plentiful right along side CDs from what I remember of the time...
Aside from that, the Trans Am IS about power-and I'd be just as happy to turn the sound system off and listen to the engine
I bought many used CDs for little money at a music store on the road.
The Mustang looked better.
I am not interested in engine noise.
Are you sure it was a Trans Am and not just a Firebird(there is a difference)? I find it hard to believe that GM would have sold their premium Pontiac model without at least a cassette deck in the late 90s.
I think the lady called it "Trans Am".
Maybe it had a cassette deck. But I stopped using those in the 80's.
If you live in Europe, perhaps you wouldn’t. In the US, a Mustang is an excellent choice if you’re looking for a small, sporty coupe.
Starts at 50650€, not that I see the point in wasting that much on such a boring car.
On mobile.de it starts at 43K€ euro new regularly. Myself I don't see the point of spending more on a little car.
Although that M starts regularly at 39K€ there.
Damn, when you say boring you aren’t kidding. A 0-60 in the mid to upper 7’s. That’s solid bland commuter car performance in this day and age. Base model Civic sedan slow.
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I’m not sure a BMW 520d and a Mustang are really comparable cars that would be commonly cross shopped. A comfortable midsized fuel efficient diesel sedan versus a 2-door sports car with a backseat that’s barely functional. I imagine the 520d has substantially better fuel economy.
As someone with a BMW 535i xDrive, I would never fathom of buying a Mustang instead or in to replace it given the major difference in practicality (space, comfort, awd, etc).
In that you mentioned the engines... BMW 520d vs. Mustang 2.3T
0-60: mid-high 7’s vs. low-mid 5’s
Price: €43k/$48,000 vs. ~$27,000*
HP: 190hp vs. 310hp
Torque: 295 vs. 350 ft lbs
*I’m not sure how much a Mustang costs in Europe, but for $40k you can get a Mustang GT with a 460hp V8.
Out of curiosity what car did you have in the 80’s with a CD player? Was it OEM or aftermarket?
The Ford Mustang 2.3 is showing at around 35K€
I just meant I stopped using cassettes in the 80's.
Ahh, I was confused for a second since we were talking about cars...
Yeah I figured it would be bit more than the US. €8k between the US and EU is still a sizable difference, not to mention they’re not exactly comparable cars. It’s too bad BMW discontinued the 535d.
If the desire for cheap second hand music was the ultimate goal, from what I remember cassettes were more plentiful and less expensive in that department than CDs at least in the mid to late 90s.
CD players in cars weren't exactly widespread at least through the first half of the 90s either-from what I recall if a car had one it was usually a changer in the trunk or at least somewhere not immediately accessible. My dad's Continentals(98, 99, 01) had them in the passenger foot well(with a cassette deck in the dash)-a position that was not accessible to the driver while driving.
I will say though that I detest in-dash changers, even though my current car has one. In my experience, they eventually cause nothing but problems, and you either write off the disks in them or take the thing apart to get them out.
Wouldn't it be great if someone invented a portable storage device for media files that we could interface with our car's audio systems and have thousands of songs on tap. Given current storage technology, I bet such a device could be made smaller than a deck of cards.
CD players in cars weren't exactly widespread at least through the first half of the 90s either-from what I recall if a car had one it was usually a changer in the trunk or at least somewhere not immediately accessible. My dad's Continentals(98, 99, 01) had them in the passenger foot well(with a cassette deck in the dash)-a position that was not accessible to the driver while driving.
I will say though that I detest in-dash changers, even though my current car has one. In my experience, they eventually cause nothing but problems, and you either write off the disks in them or take the thing apart to get them out.
Wouldn't it be great if someone invented a portable storage device for media files that we could interface with our car's audio systems and have thousands of songs on tap. Given current storage technology, I bet such a device could be made smaller than a deck of cards.
Even in the 80's sound quality of pressed cassettes was very basic, except perhaps some uncommon editions. For my own recordings I liked to use metal (very expensive), or at least chrome.
I never looked back when I got my first CD player, and I also stopped buying this quickly after the first scratch as MiniDisc was on the horizon, which disappointed me later before getting it because it was compressed. I restarted with CDs years later with deals. And similarly started with SACDs much later (another compromise because of copy protection).
If you go by deals, it is cheaper to buy discs than downloads.
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Ben, you forget cassettes had their own problems of getting stuck, too. What a nightmare that was.
You just had to learn how to spin a pencil to get it back in, although sometimes they had to be spliced. I do not miss cassettes.
I've still got some cassettes that have stretched over time, use and heat. Not fun.
Yeah, but that was so damn annoying and you had to pull over. I had it bad with one car and took it to a place that cleaned it out and it stopped happening. I don't miss them. I somewhat miss CDs being common, especially when cars began being able to play MP3s. I don't know if any factory system was ever capable of playing FLAC files. Though now it's even easier to play stuff. Though I prefer a data connection over Bluetooth.
Hmmm, here I am confused again. I thought we were talking about the 520d. And how is it’s engine comparable to a mustang?
Which European country are we talking about? If I’m not mistaken prices can vary considerably depending on taxes.
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I was going to tell @bunnspecial cd changer cassettes often ran into problems.