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This is my gold standard. Get a zero percent or 0.9% loan deal when they offer them, drive the car for ten to fifteen years.
I had to look that up because I've never seen a modern trolley. Just what they have in the Bay Area. The old ones. I may have ridden on one from Boston to Worcester and back once a really, really, really long time ago but I don't remember if it was green colored. I thought it was weird to see a subway train outdoors.
As you can tell I've rarely been on a subway, trolley or bus. I've known people who decided to move out here from the East Coast and it's quite cute to see them thinking our public transportation was up to snuff compared to the east coast. It might be now, but I doubt it.
In my experience or rather my luck, it's better to bite the bullet and replace everything rather than work your way down a list. What was the service manager's reaction to you laughing at him? Something I've wanted to ask you for a long time is whether your 5er has that Active Steering option? Is that still around?
When I drove the new 5er, I didn't notice that but the car felt better than the two generations before it. It's not the same as a 90s or 80s 5er, but it was a lot better than newer ones I'd driven.
T6 is without the turbo and super charging motor, right? I have to admit after you sent those pics of the Jeep I got very sentimental over the past. A long time ago, my best friend at the time had a 1970s CJ5 that wasn't old then, but certainly ancient now. Coolest car in the world. Still is to me. I refer to them as "Wranglers" when talking to most people who can't or don't know the models changed and Wrangler is a new "brand." If you had a CJ then, you were a cool person, still the same today IMO or I'm really out of touch with younger people. That said, I did look up CJ5 and CJ7 prices which went up since I last looked at them. It was a very sad experience. I never owned a CJ or a Wrangler, but I wish I did now.
It wasn't a particularly fast or efficient car, but driving down a block or two of suburbia usually meant a high chance of getting the numbers of a bird or two. Anyway, was it the X3 or X4 we were looking at? And I'm guessing E Coupe and not the sedan or wagon?
Your dad's is a 3IS, right? The AWD has a hump near the driver's side that gets really warm. The spindle is what prevents me from buying another Lexus. It's too damn ugly, and no feature of a car could merit living with that. Volvos have always been like that, no? I remember someone telling me years ago that in some less desirable countries in the world, people who are well off or wealthy drive Audis and Volvos. I think Audis aren't like that any more, but they were perceived as whatever cars compared to a flashy Bimmer or Merc. Or a Jaguar for that matter, but the Jaguar would have left the driver stranded at some point. I guess an A6 with top trim spec still looks less flashy than a competitor even though it's as equally as expensive. And unfortunately, most people who think less of Audi, far less than me, just presume it's a flashy VW. Ignoring the fact that every manufacturer now shares platforms or parts within their company models or anything else they own in the case of VW/VAG.
Do people drive Land Cruisers in Boston? I've only been to Boston and NYC outside of the cold snowy months so I haven't seen much apart from exotics here and there. The LC seems too big.
The MBTA’s Green Line is a light rail system- much of it is a subway, but eventually it comes out above ground- and toward the end of E-branch literally shares the street with cars. It’s the second the most traveled light rail line in the country
An earlier model of Green Line trains that no longer exists was shared with San Francisco’s. The trains were made by Boeing- apparently made post Vietnam War in the governments attempt to keep the defense contractors busy. The problem was Boeing had no experience making trains. Reportedly they were a disaster. But that’s pretty standard for the MBTA.
The Boston to Worcester route is serviced by the Commuter Rail, which is a legit train- powered by a diesel locomotive. It’s not part of the local service provided by the red, orange, blue, and green lines.
Boston’s train system isn’t the most convenient depending on where you’re trying to get to. Easy to west works pretty well. But if you need to go north to south outside of your options are limited. You tend to have to go inbound, then go north/south, then go back outbound again.
I think he was fairly understanding, knowing it was a ridiculous quote in reality. I’m sure most customers aren’t technically knowledgeable to know how basic of a repair that is in that car. But he did try hard to sell me on it.
I don’t believe I have active steering.
I drove the F10 5-series. It seemed to be far more comfort oriented than previous BMW’s. Supposedly the G30’s, which I haven’t driven, are much sportier feeling as they should be.
Yes, the current T6 is a 2.0L 4 cylinder with a turbo and supercharger.
I don’t think anyone has ever expected a Wrangler or CJ to be fast or efficient.
As I said, the X3. The X4 and every other “coupe SUV” is a obnoxious and ugly. And no, it would be the E sedan. I’m not a 2-dr coupe person.
Yes is a 3rd generation IS and yes that jump is a bit of a design flaw, especially for the LHD market. It actually doesn’t seem to get in the way. My dad is 6ft tall and he never noticed the jump until I pointed it out.
I don’t think Volvos have anywhere close to the image that the typical luxury brands exude. In Israel where cars are very expensive (100%+ tax) Volvo’s are considered very luxurious. SUV’s are status symbols, with Mitsubishi Monteros being one of the most premium vehicles.
I think there’s a relatively high number of Land Cruisers in Boston. Granted where I live is the border of urban and suburban living. So there’s many single family homes with plenty of room for a large SUV.
Like most public transport it seems.
I wasn't a fan of the F10 and didn't like the E60. The G30 is sublime, though. Just not a fan of the interior lighting. I don't see the point of having a discotheque in your vehicle. It's chintzy.
My memory was sketchy. I thought it was the X4 we were looking at because I remembered it being then recently redesigned, but turns out it was the X3. The only drawback to the X3 IMO is the $80 Apple Car fee, which is silly but very BMW at this point. A few years ago they reduced what the warranty covered and for how long.
Yeah, a contact of mine in Israel, don't recall where he lives, but runs a few successful businesses whinges about the cost of cars in general. No idea what SUV he owns, but he owns a few cars excluding what he's bought for his children. I remember the first car he bought and told me about back in the day which to him was impressive. He'd seen what America was like, but I had a vague understanding of how Israel was then. I think it would be better to describe him as someone who doesn't like paying the government or overpaying for things when they're marked up high in Israel. He'd spent a year in America, IIRC, and we grew close. He really enjoyed how affordable things were here. I'm guessing this drove him to work so hard to get what he wanted.
Hopefully I'll make a trip at some point. His wine cellar needs lightening...
So a question for Audi aficionados. Is there a big difference outside of what Audi lists on their Premium Plus and the Prestige? Prestige brings up the following:
HUD
Ventilated Seats with 4 way Lumbar Support
HD Matrix-design LED headlights with Audi laser light
Four-zone automatic climate control
Power door closers
1. Don't need a HUD or is it worth the extra money for it?
2. Ventilated seats I get, but what's 4 way lumbar? I know 2 way; upper and lower lumbar. Is this for hips?
3. No idea what this is. HD Matrix LED headlights come with Premium Plus, but what does laser light do or is it mostly marketing?
4. No real need for this. No one's barely sat in the back of the CLS and the kids' carseats are in my car
5. Soft close doors? No real preference.
I feel as if the extra $3,800 is a waste of money for frivolous crap.
So far we've narrowed it down to the A7 and whatever MBZ is similar. Haven't driven the new CLS or looked at one up close. The Panamara while nice costs a bit more and that's before options. Also the V6 seemed tame. I don't understand Porsche options well so an off the lot choice seemed the best, but the prices vary greatly on them and if you can't figure out what's causing the swing, then it makes it hard to look for something. One thing is for certain, no dark colored wheels. I don't care about it because I like the throwback, but it isn't my car so my love for them doesn't matter. No dark tinted wheels either, which I presume means smoky looking wheels, which are great for covering up brake dust but I digress. Not too concerned about rear sitting room because as I said it rarely houses sitting humans. Usually it's a jacket or a box of files. And I'd be lying if I said I didn't secretly want the Audi over the MBZ offering. Audi's fastback design is really nice.
My car... well it needs to be safe because I've got two kids. My mind was set on the E Wagon until I saw the revolting looking new GLS on someone's channel. Also, while a personal decision if we have a third child I'd feel uncomfortable putting said child in the middle in the back of the E Wagon with the boys on either side. I don't follow highway safety crash test data because I'm not that much of a nerd, but I'm assuming an SUV is simply more safer than a wagon here, and that a wagon is more safer than a sedan. I don't want to buy something I want (or even a sedan again) and have to turn it in or lease a compact SUV if we all need to go somewhere. If my boys were 10 or older, I wouldn't be as concerned, but I'd still be concerned.
If I went down the cheap SUV/CUV route, I'd probably get a FWD Pilot or a Highlander. Or alternatively, I could keep my GL since it costs me nothing but insurance and occasional maintenance. There's also the CRV and the Rav4. But I doubt either of those would be comfortable with say 5 people, one of which in a bulky carseat. @A.Goldberg has recommended a CPO on occasion, but being a mild germaphobe I'm gagging at that idea. The GL has bottomed out in value at this point due to mileage and age. I wouldn't have to drive it every day either if we had a third. But it would mean an extra car, and the 2IS barely gets any driving and sits on a trickle charger. I love driving it on weekends to go grocery shopping or get around town without having to go through a gallon or two of gas.
I also like the idea of having something like an SUV because if I do a Costco run, I can put the seating down and fill up the car with a lot of stuff. And @A.Goldberg can attest to my love of Costco, or as he describes it, "severe addiction."
HUD
Ventilated Seats with 4 way Lumbar Support
HD Matrix-design LED headlights with Audi laser light
Four-zone automatic climate control
Power door closers
1. Don't need a HUD or is it worth the extra money for it?
2. Ventilated seats I get, but what's 4 way lumbar? I know 2 way; upper and lower lumbar. Is this for hips?
3. No idea what this is. HD Matrix LED headlights come with Premium Plus, but what does laser light do or is it mostly marketing?
4. No real need for this. No one's barely sat in the back of the CLS and the kids' carseats are in my car
5. Soft close doors? No real preference.
I feel as if the extra $3,800 is a waste of money for frivolous crap.
So far we've narrowed it down to the A7 and whatever MBZ is similar. Haven't driven the new CLS or looked at one up close. The Panamara while nice costs a bit more and that's before options. Also the V6 seemed tame. I don't understand Porsche options well so an off the lot choice seemed the best, but the prices vary greatly on them and if you can't figure out what's causing the swing, then it makes it hard to look for something. One thing is for certain, no dark colored wheels. I don't care about it because I like the throwback, but it isn't my car so my love for them doesn't matter. No dark tinted wheels either, which I presume means smoky looking wheels, which are great for covering up brake dust but I digress. Not too concerned about rear sitting room because as I said it rarely houses sitting humans. Usually it's a jacket or a box of files. And I'd be lying if I said I didn't secretly want the Audi over the MBZ offering. Audi's fastback design is really nice.
My car... well it needs to be safe because I've got two kids. My mind was set on the E Wagon until I saw the revolting looking new GLS on someone's channel. Also, while a personal decision if we have a third child I'd feel uncomfortable putting said child in the middle in the back of the E Wagon with the boys on either side. I don't follow highway safety crash test data because I'm not that much of a nerd, but I'm assuming an SUV is simply more safer than a wagon here, and that a wagon is more safer than a sedan. I don't want to buy something I want (or even a sedan again) and have to turn it in or lease a compact SUV if we all need to go somewhere. If my boys were 10 or older, I wouldn't be as concerned, but I'd still be concerned.
If I went down the cheap SUV/CUV route, I'd probably get a FWD Pilot or a Highlander. Or alternatively, I could keep my GL since it costs me nothing but insurance and occasional maintenance. There's also the CRV and the Rav4. But I doubt either of those would be comfortable with say 5 people, one of which in a bulky carseat. @A.Goldberg has recommended a CPO on occasion, but being a mild germaphobe I'm gagging at that idea. The GL has bottomed out in value at this point due to mileage and age. I wouldn't have to drive it every day either if we had a third. But it would mean an extra car, and the 2IS barely gets any driving and sits on a trickle charger. I love driving it on weekends to go grocery shopping or get around town without having to go through a gallon or two of gas.
I also like the idea of having something like an SUV because if I do a Costco run, I can put the seating down and fill up the car with a lot of stuff. And @A.Goldberg can attest to my love of Costco, or as he describes it, "severe addiction."
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Yeah from what I’ve read the G30 is a huge improvement over the F10. I’ve never been a huge fan on the E60 styling, but the overall driving characteristics are just about universally well appreciated. It’s amazing how much technology that car packed for the time, with production starting in 2003 and it’s development obviously predating that by many years.
Well, if you question your memory you could have always just looked at my post you were directly responding to where I explicitly said X3
Late night I presume?The best memory I had was the initial reception to iDrive in the 7 series that came out a couple of years before the E60. I don't remember the 7 series well, but the 5 series is what most people focused on. Even I thought iDrive was silly and that it would never take off. 16 years later and most car companies have a similar set up. I had an earache.Yeah from what I’ve read the G30 is a huge improvement over the F10. I’ve never been a huge fan on the E60 styling, but the overall driving characteristics are just about universally well appreciated. It’s amazing how much technology that car packed for the time, with production starting in 2003 and it’s development obviously predating that by many years.
Well, if you question your memory you could have always just looked at my post you were directly responding to where I explicitly said X3
Porsche claim to have 30,000+ orders in line for the new Taycan. I'm willing to believe them over Muskapop. The Taycan looks wild while being refined. Hopefully the so-called Porsche charging network becomes a VAG charging network which will be huge given VAG's portfolio of car marques. This is way more exciting to me than Muskapop's silly little roadster. The entry price is high, but hopefully its sales can convince VAG to start investing more and more into their other brands apart from Audi's E-Trons.
I don't really see the green of EVs since it still takes considerable amounts of fossil fuels to create electricity globally. You're still adding junk to the environment.
I don't really see the green of EVs since it still takes considerable amounts of fossil fuels to create electricity globally. You're still adding junk to the environment.
The original iDrive in the 7 series was windows CE-based garbage.
The E60 had I think 2-3 versions of iDrive over its lifespan.
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I love HUDs. I haven't driven the latest Audi so don't know what information their HUD shows. Mine shows navigation instructions, speed limits, traffic warnings, collision avoidance warnings, phone calls and music. And it's a color display, not monochrome. It's nice to get useful information right in your line of sight without having to take your eyes off the road to look at your instrument cluster or infotainment screen.
2-way lumbar is just in/out. 4-way lumbar adds up/down. Think of a rolling pin in your seat that can move up and down. The sides of your seat are the bolsters. When you say upper lumbar I think you're referring to seats where the upper half of the seat can also tilt back/forth separately from the overall backrest. On BMW we call it articulating upper backrest.
Again, I can't speak to the Audi, but laser headlights on my BMW are awesome. The range on them at night is amazing. However, if you never drive at night on the highway where you'd actually use your high beams they are almost useless. Interesting tidbit - BMW reduces the power when you're in traffic or close behind another vehicle. They claim at full power you could possibly melt plastic bumpers on cars if you're close enough. Not sure if that's true or just marketing, but I did get a chance to hold my hand in front of a BMW laser headlight at reduced 10% output and it was pretty warm.
Power door close is not a must-have, but it's nice if it comes with another package. No more slamming doors to make sure they close completely the first time. Also great for sneaking home at night as they are very quiet. Now that I'm used to them I always close the door lightly and let it finish the power close itself.
I also like 4 zone climate control, but only because I regularly have my kids in the back and being able to let them adjust their own temperature prevents a lot of fights on the road.
Power door close is not a must-have, but it's nice if it comes with another package. No more slamming doors to make sure they close completely the first time. Also great for sneaking home at night as they are very quiet.
Now that I'm used to them I always close the door lightly and let it finish the power close itself.I also like 4 zone climate control, but only because I regularly have my kids in the back and being able to let them adjust their own temperature prevents a lot of fights on the road.
In my experience, the Premium Plus is the design Audi intended. The Prestige is a large premium for a number of features you won’t use and the Premium is designed to keep average prices down.
Okay so let me ask you this. I wear polarized sunglasses. I've read in the past that this reduces or eliminates the usefulness of a HUD because the glasses must be angled correctly at said HUD for the light to come through. If I use these, would be it useless to get it? We switched to polarized sunglasses a few years ago because with regular ones it was getting difficult to tell what a car was doing or see things during clear sky very sunny days.
I get what you're saying. I hope at least. So the 4 way is the bladder that fills up with air in your lumbar, but the 4 way means it can go higher or lower depending on your height, right? No, wasn't referring to that, though that's usually a drivers only feature, isn't it?
Wouldn't it melt the lens on the housing? Don't use high-beam much except for a few backroads where it's pitch black, but I haven't been on those roads in years. They lead up to a high post to look over the entire city and escape light smog.
Power door close is not a must-have, but it's nice if it comes with another package. No more slamming doors to make sure they close completely the first time. Also great for sneaking home at night as they are very quiet.
I also like 4 zone climate control, but only because I regularly have my kids in the back and being able to let them adjust their own temperature prevents a lot of fights on the road.
Yeah not a fan of those. It's still a power boot/trunk, right? Definitely don't need 4 way climate control. I wish trunks still worked manually on luxury cars. Electronic close is so slow.
Thought so. I was confused because I was under the impression Prestige was the one to go for for some value over the other two competitors. The only thing I'm not so hot on is how much black shiny and scratch-able surface there is inside the car in the center console. The CLS 450 4Matic has slightly better performance than the older while having less power on tap and a smaller engine. I wouldn't mind that if it weren't the grill and wheel choices being lame. The CLS 53 faux-AMG looks better wheel and grill wise. Macchiato with the cream leather and the macchiato with the gray leather seem to stand out. The Bengal Red leather looks good, but I feel that's one of those things you love at first and quickly find it to be an eyesore down the line. The natural grain wood trim looks superb, though, but limited in leather combinations. It's something we'll have to see in person because the configurator tends to make things look ugly. Personally, I like the E sedan in black with nut brown leather with the natural grain ash stained wood. Though the nut brown and black leather with the metal weave looks amazing, too.
With the Audi, I really like the beige and the soho brown exteriors. It's a nice change to what you usually get with these kinds of cars. The combos for the Audi seem slimmer than the MBZ. Of the faux-AMGs, the E class looks and has the better combinations, IMO. But some people like fastback designs. The black with red stitching and red belts isn't bad either. It's more palatable than red leather.
Did it ever get swapped out later or did they wait until the model was retired and replaced with the F series?
@Zenithal it was updated at least once in that generation of 7-series. I believe the E60 5-series had 3 generations of iDrive in its lifespan.
The biggest problem with the OG iDrive was the lack of physical buttons and slow software. BMW quickly realized people still wanted buttons to quickly change settings.
The biggest problem with the OG iDrive was the lack of physical buttons and slow software. BMW quickly realized people still wanted buttons to quickly change settings.
Right. Did not know that latter part. I assumed it was once version throughout until the 2010 model. My first encounter with iDrive for more than a few minutes was in late 2005, so a 2006 E60 then? I didn't find it intuitive and it seemed slow, but I also presumed it would be as fast as your typical computer. I found the iDrive in the G30 fairly fast, easy to use and rather intuitive compared to what I remembered it being. I found the Audi MMI to be the same. It's rather telling how so many companies copied either the iDrive or MMI layout or way of doing things. I'm curious how MBUX will be in the years to come.
Though I can't help but chuckle at BMW dragging their feet when it comes to Android Auto. I understand Porsche's position, and it isn't a privacy thing. They polled their own customers. Also in line with BMW's yearly fee just to use Car Play, which I know you're not a fan of (or anyone else on this site).
Like I said the other night to you, at least Toyota saw the light and had stopped pushing their own flavor of the decade software suit that's not as good. I also didn't believe Mazda when they said they were looking into offering them, but they ended up doing so (read about it earlier).
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Found out the name of the matrix system MBZ uses. It's called Multibeam for MBZ cars. I was wondering why I hadn't heard of it before until I read and learned that US regs didn't allow it. These were slacked but it appears MBZ USA isn't budging. Apparently both US and Canadian MBZ are crippled via software in this regard. Doing some more research because I couldn't sleep, it appears the Audi Matrix and BMW Laser Light differ quite a bit in North America compared to their European counterparts. Revised US regulations, which also affect Canadian cars because they're homogeneous in a way, allow a crippled version but also at a much lower max power output.
Pay MSRP or haggle, and you get less than those across the pond...
Doing some more research because I couldn't sleep, it appears the Audi Matrix and BMW Laser Light differ quite a bit in North America compared to their European counterparts. Revised US regulations, which also affect Canadian cars because they're homogeneous in a way, allow a crippled version but also at a much lower max power output.Pay MSRP or haggle, and you get less than those across the pond...
Just came back from the Volvo dealer checking out the XC40 and XC60. Didn't drive the XC40, but the interior design is really smart on how found ways to maximize storage space. Materials were decent, but trash can was a bit cheap feeling.
For the XC60, the interior was fairly nice. They had an R-Design in the showroom which at least gave preview of the momentum's dash. The materials weren't as soft as they look, but still the touch is very nice. We test drove a T5 Inscription with the advanced package and the leather package( nappa leather, massaging seats, etc) with the driftwood inserts. The leather with the sewed seams on the dash was a definite upgrade to the interior over the Momentum's/R Designs dash. The nappa leather really felt nice and soft which made sitting in them really comfortable. The massaging seats were fairly good too and much better setup over the XT4 we drove last year. Every time the XT4's air bladders deflated for the massaging function you would hear the air escaping. Volvo's were dead quiet. Not sure if I would spend $2200 for the package though. The normal leather seats were very comfy as well. Sensus worked really well with no lag and instantly picked up on how to use it. The 360 degree camera was really neat to use as a way to judge where the car was in relation to the lines, curb, etc. The HUD was nice and sharp looking.
I am happy with the T5's motor. It has more than enough power to get the vehicle moving at a rate I am happy with without adding the complexity of a supercharger on top of the turbo. They did allow a lot of the turbo noise to reach into the cabin. Which for a luxury vehicle siding more on the comfort/luxury side than sporty side is a bit of a disappointment, but certainly not a deal breaker. The ride was very nice and tuned for comfort, but not floaty and still very composed over the bumps. Would definitely leave the auto/stop function in the permanent off position. Not that it was rough on restart, just don't like it so glad they give you the option to disable it. About the worse thing I can say about the drive was the steering was light and very numb. Which again, I am used to the sportier steering of my Camaro and know that isn't the purpose of the Volvo. Not a deal breaker again, but wish it was just a touch heavier. But when it comes to the worst feature of the car itself, it is the auto shutdown feature it has. When I parked the car and opened the driver door, it automatically turned off the car. We looked for a setting to turn it off, but wasn't readily apparent that you can turn it off. There are times where I want to get out of the vehicle quickly( grab the newspaper, mail, etc), hop back in, and drive off again. So that auto shutdown feature is a bit of a turnoff.
Overall, I loved the XC60. It's positives outweigh the negatives and totally see myself seriously looking at it in 1-2 years.
For the XC60, the interior was fairly nice. They had an R-Design in the showroom which at least gave preview of the momentum's dash. The materials weren't as soft as they look, but still the touch is very nice. We test drove a T5 Inscription with the advanced package and the leather package( nappa leather, massaging seats, etc) with the driftwood inserts. The leather with the sewed seams on the dash was a definite upgrade to the interior over the Momentum's/R Designs dash. The nappa leather really felt nice and soft which made sitting in them really comfortable. The massaging seats were fairly good too and much better setup over the XT4 we drove last year. Every time the XT4's air bladders deflated for the massaging function you would hear the air escaping. Volvo's were dead quiet. Not sure if I would spend $2200 for the package though. The normal leather seats were very comfy as well. Sensus worked really well with no lag and instantly picked up on how to use it. The 360 degree camera was really neat to use as a way to judge where the car was in relation to the lines, curb, etc. The HUD was nice and sharp looking.
I am happy with the T5's motor. It has more than enough power to get the vehicle moving at a rate I am happy with without adding the complexity of a supercharger on top of the turbo. They did allow a lot of the turbo noise to reach into the cabin. Which for a luxury vehicle siding more on the comfort/luxury side than sporty side is a bit of a disappointment, but certainly not a deal breaker. The ride was very nice and tuned for comfort, but not floaty and still very composed over the bumps. Would definitely leave the auto/stop function in the permanent off position. Not that it was rough on restart, just don't like it so glad they give you the option to disable it. About the worse thing I can say about the drive was the steering was light and very numb. Which again, I am used to the sportier steering of my Camaro and know that isn't the purpose of the Volvo. Not a deal breaker again, but wish it was just a touch heavier. But when it comes to the worst feature of the car itself, it is the auto shutdown feature it has. When I parked the car and opened the driver door, it automatically turned off the car. We looked for a setting to turn it off, but wasn't readily apparent that you can turn it off. There are times where I want to get out of the vehicle quickly( grab the newspaper, mail, etc), hop back in, and drive off again. So that auto shutdown feature is a bit of a turnoff.
Overall, I loved the XC60. It's positives outweigh the negatives and totally see myself seriously looking at it in 1-2 years.
WTSF, that's a pretty intrusive "safety" feature. I mean, our DDRT has some things like requiring the door to be closed before you can put it into drive, but I'm constantly running back in the house for glasses, etc., and I'd hate for the car to shut down.
Heck, I dislike the start/stop "economy" feature in cars, it just totally throws me off - it was possibly a deal breaker when I was considering the V6 JGC (checked into a couple of bypass solutions), but then I quickly moved to wanting the 5.7L V8 (and then changed make/models and wound up with the 5.7L RT
The Hemi options have cylinder deactivation for economy, but it can be toggled off right from a hard button on the dash)I was thinking Corvette, but Mustang works, too. Nice color.
Nappa leather is usually very nice and supple. It also smells glorious. I can't comment on modern Volvos, but my memories of Volvo seats, is that they were comfortable. @A.Goldberg attests that they're still very comfortable to this day. The biggest drawback to the Volvos is the giant tablet, but I saw a red S60 recently on the road and thought it looked beautiful. From a usability and safety standpoint, the move towards less buttons isn't wise. VAG somewhat alleviates this in their luxury vehicles with haptic feedback, but it isn't as satisfying as touching an actual button. I'd rather have super light weight aluminum buttons with knurls than flexible glass or whatever it is with smudges and scratches all over after a few years.
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Yeah, it's pretty spectacular, especially with the multi-coat process (pearl/metallic/base), results in this (that's highly variable based on lighting):
(Of course, that badge needs to be matte black
)Oh, that's a lot more orange than the other photos on Google showed it to be. Wow. Pretty. The ones I saw on Google were more yellow, and reminded me of these Ford performance truck Ford put out years ago, the SVT Lightning. I was wondering where orange came in. Based on your post, I'm guessing it's some kind of color shifting color?
Is this a companion to the black on red GT?
Is this a companion to the black on red GT?
WTSF, that's a pretty intrusive "safety" feature. I mean, our DDRT has some things like requiring the door to be closed before you can put it into drive, but I'm constantly running back in the house for glasses, etc., and I'd hate for the car to shut down.
Heck, I dislike the start/stop "economy" feature in cars, it just totally throws me off - it was possibly a deal breaker when I was considering the V6 JGC (checked into a couple of bypass solutions), but then I quickly moved to wanting the 5.7L V8 (and then changed make/models and wound up with the 5.7L RT
Interesting that you have a button to toggle off the cylinder deactivation. My RT Charger does not.
Putting it in Sport mode seems to reduce its being engaged, though.
Miles per gallon vs Smiles per gallon.
T-Minus ~7 hours till Orange is the new Black
Oh yeah, so it has two buttons/toggles (both as convenient hard buttons vs. buried in a touch screen menu ...)
One is ECO OFF (the default state is on), it's my understanding this disables (or __mostly__ disables MDS/cylinder deactivation), the second is SPORT MODE, which also flips the ECO OFF button on, and of course, changes the throttle response, shift aggressiveness, etc. (re-enabling ECO will toggle SPORT off as well). It's funny, on the highway, the 5.7L is efficient enough where ECO doesn't really save much in terms of MPG.
Oh yeah, so it has two buttons/toggles (both as convenient hard buttons vs. buried in a touch screen menu ...)
One is ECO OFF (the default state is on), it's my understanding this disables (or __mostly__ disables MDS/cylinder deactivation), the second is SPORT MODE, which also flips the ECO OFF button on, and of course, changes the throttle response, shift aggressiveness, etc. (re-enabling ECO will toggle SPORT off as well). It's funny, on the highway, the 5.7L is efficient enough where ECO doesn't really save much in terms of MPG.
Had a Mustang GT as a rental in the pacific northwest. It's not for me (it wasn't super comfortable) but it was a lot of fun to have.