The Car Thread ... !

[D.T.]

Thats a bit lame Ford doesn’t let you default exhaust setting to be full loud upon start up. Only track and rain/ice resets to tour upon every startup and will stay in sport. Even then I have the exhaust decoupled to the mode so it is in track all the time( valves open) and I can also have the steering and suspension set to my preferred setting if I wanted to( but I leave it coupled to the mode).

Normal is actually pretty loud, there's 4 modes: quiet, normal, sport and track, the latter has a little extra "for track only" disclaimer, and the exhaust also has "auto open" at certain throttle events. However, they did some cool stuff like quiet mode can be set for a time range, so in case you forget, and don't want to anger the neighbors, you can make that cold morning start nice and quiet.

Actually, people in California have even been cited for a 100% stock car in the Sport and Track modes, so I think they simply defaulted to a more conservative mode.

My top controller has an override but I've never used it.

This new GT is generally full of badassery, so this one decision on the designers/engineers part (probably motivated by legal) doesn't bother me at all.

 

[robbieduncan]

Normal is actually pretty loud, there's 4 modes: quiet, normal, sport and track, the latter has a little extra "for track only" disclaimer, and the exhaust also has "auto open" at certain throttle events.

Maybe track days are different in the US. Most track days in the UK have strict and enforced noise limits

 

[D.T.]

Maybe track days are different in the US. Most track days in the UK have strict and enforced noise limits

Depends on the track, some are in close proximity to residential areas (like Roebling Road, where there are pretty rigid sound level allowances, based on time of day), some are in the middle of nowhere, and I don't recall any noise limits (like Sebring).

I've run (a few of these several times):

Roebling
Sebring
CMP
Road Atlanta
Moroso / PBIR
VIR
Summit Point

... and most are pretty liberal with sound level allowances, again, because there's so much land area in the US, and they're in the boonies SP is so remote, when I was there the first time, a guy hit a deer on track

 

[0388631]

Actually, people in California have even been cited for a 100% stock car in the Sport and Track modes, so I think they simply defaulted to a more conservative mode.

These have been reversed as far as I've read. I'm not completely sure, but I believe the F Type R is still the loudest stock exhaust but I wouldn't be surprised if the 992.1 GT3 will be louder. The police around this area are well aware of how loud stock performance cars are. They let it slide unless you're in a quiet area. Don't see it in residential, but in the business districts there's a sound curfew after 10 PM. You're better off muffling the sound via the drive mode unless you want a sound and breach of peace ticket.

The 991.1-2 GT3 are phenomenal with an IPE exhaust, but I'm pretty sure the sound from that is a ticket magnet here.

 

[jeyf]

being stoped for not having a license plate on the front, loud exhaust are small infractions. just pay the fine. likely law enforcement policy will change in 3 months and the police will be off onto another like shopping cart theft.

 

[einmusiker]

Hello. I am in ny state and was offered the ioniq ev with limited trim lease at 159/mo 36 months and 10k miles/year. The dealer said ny taxes and fees will come to $2800. I can pay that as down payment or roll into lease payment. Does that sound correct or should I find a deal with the tax included? Sorry for dumb questions this is my first lease

 

[cube]

 

[hawkeye_a]

Anyone here ever owned an Alfa Romeo Brera?

 

[D.T.]

Hello. I am in ny state and was offered the ioniq ev with limited trim lease at 159/mo 36 months and 10k miles/year. The dealer said ny taxes and fees will come to $2800. I can pay that as down payment or roll into lease payment. Does that sound correct or should I find a deal with the tax included? Sorry for dumb questions this is my first lease

General lease rule-of-thumb, put down as little money as possible, we've done a number of them with $0 up front.

State to state lease specifics vary a bit (ex: how they're taxed), so it's hard to say, but as important as the payment is the price of the car (MSRP) and how much you paid for it and the interest rate (in a lease, expressed as the money factor). Get those, then plug them into something like this:

What is Considered a Good Lease Deal?

 

[cube]

I think the ZOE is so popular because people normally lease the battery.

 

[D.T.]

My top controller has an override but I've never used it.

This new GT is generally full of badassery, so this one decision on the designers/engineers part (probably motivated by legal) doesn't bother me at all.

... but I'm using it now, startup in S+ mode

Oh, and speaking of badassery and mode selection, [as I may have posted] I'm now running an E85 (ethanol) tune, that includes tweaks to the 10-speed (when in specific modes), and I've been chatting with some folks using the same tuner, with the same minor intake/exhaust mods as me, are seeing 450-460 at the rear wheels on a dyno. To put the into perspective, that RWHP that matches or exceeds something like a Camaro's motor/FW rated power, hahaha, it's crazy what a little corn will do. Talked a buddy of mine in town, going to toss mine on a dyno in the very near future, super interested to see the current power. My "butt dyno" is pretty well dialed in, having tuned a ton of cars (and spent a lot of time on a actual dyno), and it's is very significant (let's just say, it was surprising to a certain 6.4L Charger ... )

 

[44267547]

The Scat & GT got put away early this year, due to the snow, which put me ahead of a small project to execute. One thing I found out with the Mustang during the summer, is I didn’t like the ‘open-face’ Style GT500 grill, Which allowed for a lot of bugs to lodge in the radiator, it was a chore to keep clean.

So I decided to replace the GT500 grill with the Boss 302 grill, and change the lower bumper grill insert to match. Plus, added grill inserts into the Cervini hood scoop. Pretty easy project and it turned out amazing.

The Before:

The After:

 

[Huntn]

We had a freeze last night (Houston), hopped in my Fiat 500 to drive to the Y to swim. When I came out 2 hrs later, it was dead, low battery. The wife drove to me and I tried jumping the car which did not work. A new battery fixed it. This is the second dead battery I’ve had where trying to jump it with a cable from a running car’s battery that has not worked. My question, is jumping a car still a valid strategy or is there technology now that hinders an old fashioned jump?

 

[Apple fanboy]

We had a freeze last night (Houston), hopped in my Fiat 500 to drive to the Y to swim. When I came out 2 hrs later, it was dead, low battery. The wife drove to me and I tried jumping the car which did not work. A new battery fixed it. This is the second dead battery I’ve had where trying to jump it with a cable from a running car’s battery that has not worked. My question, is jumping a car still a valid strategy or is there technology now that hinders an old fashioned jump?

How weird? I’ve jump started my wife’s car about 2 years ago, no issues.

 

[robbieduncan]

Not sure if it’s modern car batteries or if this was true on old-school ones but if you completely drain them they are basically dead and need replacing

 

[Huntn]

Not sure if it’s modern car batteries or if this was true on old-school ones but if you completely drain them they are basically dead and need replacing

I said the jump did not work, but we did not sit there with the cables hooked up for 30 minutes with the functional car running. I had my wife rev the engine when I tried to start my car. My past experience, is that once the good battery is tied into low battery, that the low battery does not have to be charged, that the current will pass through and find its way to the starter. But maybe I am not remembering this correctly.

i researched this and maybe I did not connect it properly. I connected positive to positive and negative to negative, but this article shows:

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Now the goal was just to get the car started, drive it home, and execute the battery swap at home at my liesure. As it happened I spent several hours, pulling the old battery out, drive to the store and buy a new battery drive back and install it while standing in the YMCA parking lot, in light rain. I had my rain coat, and while not ideal, the weather was about 50F which is better than 20F.

It was 6 year battery, but was only 5 years old, however the mechanic at my car shop says batteries only last 2 years in Texas, because of the incessant heat. It was the first freeze in a year and I have no idea if that came into play or not. I do know that extreme cold weather puts stress on batteries, but 31 degrees F is not extreme cold.

A nice thing, the Fiat (as most modern cars ) turns off major drains like lights when you turn the key off, so I find it odd, that the battery would start the car normally, and be almost completely dead 2 hours later, barely able to illuminate the leds in the displays. No alternator light. With a new battery, it started right up. This makes me wonder if modern batteries have electronics in them that can fail, something other than lead acid. This article says modern batteries are different, but not clear about what electronics that might be in them, that if they fail, would cause the battery to fail:

Understanding Modern Automotive Battery Functions | KnowYourParts

The starting automotive battery has changed & developed over the years. Learn more about the modern battery, its functions, designs, testing & more.

www.knowyourparts.com

 

[D.T.]

I said the jump did not work, but we did not sit there with the cables hooked up for 30 minutes with the functional car running. I had my wife rev the engine when I tried to start my car. My past experience, is that once the good battery is tied into low battery, that the low battery does not have to be charged, that the current will pass through and find its way to the starter.

It was 6 year battery, but was only 5 years old, however the mechanic at my car shop says batteries only last 2 years in Texas, because of the incessant heat. It was the first freeze in a year and I have no idea if that came into play or not. I do know that extreme cold weather puts stress on batteries, but 31 degrees F is not extreme cold.

A nice thing, the Fiat (as most modern cars ) turns off major drains like lights when you turn the key off, so I find it odd, that the battery would start the car normally, and be almost completely dead 2 hours later, barely able to illuminate the leds in the displays.

Yeah, you don't need much time, maybe 2-3 minutes, if the car won't start, the battery is dead (and probably not even passing current).

I find batteries tend to almost always crap out earlier than the manufacturer's spec, I put a new one in my previous GT, 24K on the car, but 4 years old. There's quite a bit that affects the life a battery, lots of short trips with repeated starting, temp extremes, leaving it unrun for long periods (certainly when it requires jumping), etc.

If you're in a place where you can't drive over the winter season, I'd suggest a trickle charger, all the folks I know who have cars that aren't driven regularly (weather, or a collectable / weekend type car) use them. I even got to where if was going on a trip where I was away from the house for a couple of weeks, I'd disconnect my battery (see below).

You'd be surprised at the amount of draw modern cars have, even when off: alarms/security, all sorts of remote systems and whatnot.

To be clear, some of the above might not apply to YOUR specific car/scenario, but some likely do, and given the age of your battery, it's not at all surprising.

 

[Huntn]

Yeah, you don't need much time, maybe 2-3 minutes, if the car won't start, the battery is dead (and probably not even passing current).

I find batteries tend to almost always crap out earlier than the manufacturer's spec, I put a new one in my previous GT, 24K on the car, but 4 years old. There's quite a bit that affects the life a battery, lots of short trips with repeated starting, temp extremes, leaving it unrun for long periods (certainly when it requires jumping), etc.

If you're in a place where you can drive over the winter season, I'd suggest a trickle charger, all the folks I know who have cars that aren't driven regularly (weather, or a collectable / weekend type car) use them. I even got to where if was going on a trip where I was away from the house for a couple of weeks, I'd disconnect my battery (see below).

You'd be surprised at the amount of draw modern cars have, even when off: alarms/security, all sorts of remote systems and whatnot.

To be clear, some of the above might not apply to YOUR specific car/scenario, but some likely do, and given the age of your battery, it's not at all surprising.

I keep a trickle charger on my 82 Fiat Spider which is not driven often. Going to try to sell that this Winter/Spring.

 

[44267547]

The ‘Mach-E’ is finally slated for debut from Ford. [Rumored to start around $50,000-ish.] But what it’s interesting, is it’s supposed to have elements transferred over from the Mustang. (I’m assuming design components with tail light/tail lamps in a similar fashion, vehicle curves, ect.)

Ford's all-electric SUV is officially the 'Mustang Mach-E,' and you can reserve one starting Nov. 17 | TechCrunch

Ford has revealed the official name of its forthcoming EV SUV, which has a Mustang lineage and will be officially revealed on November 17 in LA. The new

techcrunch.com

 

[mmomega]

We had a freeze last night (Houston), hopped in my Fiat 500 to drive to the Y to swim. When I came out 2 hrs later, it was dead, low battery. The wife drove to me and I tried jumping the car which did not work. A new battery fixed it. This is the second dead battery I’ve had where trying to jump it with a cable from a running car’s battery that has not worked. My question, is jumping a car still a valid strategy or is there technology now that hinders an old fashioned jump?

Texas seems to take a toll on batteries. I keep a set of jumper cables in my truck for this reason, and funnily enough, they get used much more on helping others than myself.
I've had 1 occasion over the life of this truck so far where the batteries died in 8 years. 1 battery won't even turn the engine over. It has 2 Optima yellow tops that seem to work pretty good.
I don't really have an issue jumping others. Typically I connect the cables, start the truck and let it run for 2-3 minutes then tell the other person to try and start. Majority of time this works, the other times, I give it another 5 minutes or so and that does it.
If they are heading straight to O'Reillys or another part store nearby I'll ask if they want me to follow them until they get to the parking lot there. Their choice.

Now with the Tesla... scratch all of that. I'm not jumping anyone and noone is jumping me ?

My wife's Mercedes has the battery under the passenger seat so there is no direct connection to it but there is a "red" terminal under the hood with a protective cover over it. So jumping to or from it is positive on the red, black grounded to the body of the car. I've used it 4-5 times to jump others and one time to jump it because my wife changed her lights from automatically coming on to manually and then forgot to turn them off.

 

[Huntn]

Texas seems to take a toll on batteries. I keep a set of jumper cables in my truck for this reason, and funnily enough, they get used much more on helping others than myself.
I've had 1 occasion over the life of this truck so far where the batteries died in 8 years. 1 battery won't even turn the engine over. It has 2 Optima yellow tops that seem to work pretty good.
I don't really have an issue jumping others. Typically I connect the cables, start the truck and let it run for 2-3 minutes then tell the other person to try and start. Majority of time this works, the other times, I give it another 5 minutes or so and that does it.
If they are heading straight to O'Reillys or another part store nearby I'll ask if they want me to follow them until they get to the parking lot there. Their choice.

Now with the Tesla... scratch all of that. I'm not jumping anyone and noone is jumping me ?

My wife's Mercedes has the battery under the passenger seat so there is no direct connection to it but there is a "red" terminal under the hood with a protective cover over it. So jumping to or from it is positive on the red, black grounded to the body of the car. I've used it 4-5 times to jump others and one time to jump it because my wife changed her lights from automatically coming on to manually and then forgot to turn them off.

Cables did not help in my case.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Took my car for a swim today. The road (sharp turn and dip in the road) suddenly decided to be a river.
Stalled it but fortunately it started again. Probably about a ft of water.

 

[44267547]

Took my car for a swim today. The road (sharp turn and dip in the road) suddenly decided to be a river.
Stalled it but fortunately it started again. Probably about a ft of water.

Not good. Other issues could arise later on, especially electrical. The worst part, if something does go wrong (Assuming you have a warranty), they can deny claims due to negligence under various conditions. Never ever drive through streets that appear to be flooded, always try to find an alternate route. Water damage to a vehicle is an owners worst nightmare, both financially and dealing with warranty claims.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Not good. Other issues could arise later on, especially electrical. The worst part, if something does go wrong (Assuming you have a warranty), they can deny claims due to negligence under various conditions. Never ever drive through streets that appear to be flooded, always try to find an alternate route. Water damage to a vehicle is an owners worst nightmare, both financially and dealing with warranty claims.

It wasn’t that much water. I’m sure it will be fine. Those German cars are pretty reliable!

No warranty. Not on things like electrics anyway.

 

[mmomega]

Speaking of electrics...In other news, the Mustang Mockey information leaked.

Discovered 2021 Mustang Mach E official page w/ pricing, models, specs, video etc.!!

where are you seeing prices and trims? As always before any launch you just need to be creative or logical ;) with web address, half the time you will find a part completed web page with locked out links but other bits and you can view...

www.macheforum.com