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Agreed. My dad had a Kia Optima a few years back(I think it was an '09 model) and it honestly was a superb car. It was a great mid-sized car with a leather interior and satellite radio that still made about 36 or 37 mpg on the interstate. Honestly, I can't say enough good stuff about it. I chauferred a Nobel Laureate in it for a week(Bob Curl-96-Bucky Balls) when he was in Louisville and my LS was in the shop with a broken window regulator. That week included a trip to the Derby and a bunch of other time with him sitting in the passenger seat. I was far from ashamed to drive him around in it.
I also borrowed it a few times for long trips-I drove it to Valparaiso, IN for a watch show in August of '13 and again to Auburn, IN about a month and a half later. Those were roughly 500 mile round trips each, and Auburn was up and back in a day. It was comfortable, peppy when I needed it to be, had enough room for one or two people traveling, and I really appreciated how little gas it used.
It's still no American rear wheel drive V8
, but honestly it was in every way an outstanding car and gave no trouble. My dad has had a perpetual affliction with trading cars(he drove about 80K miles a year before he retired, so did it out of necessity then, but hasn't given up on his enjoyment of the recirculating door of cars), which is the only reason he didn't keep it that long.
And, along those lines, that was one heck of a race. I was on pins and needles when he took an early lead(usually a bad sign in the Belmont), but he held it the whole way and even won it by a decent margin. I knew it was over when Espinoza started really hitting the gas in the last 1/4 mile.
It was no Secretariat 37-length victory, but I'll take it. Incidentally, Secretariat not holds the official record for all three Triple Crown races, but also the unnoficial 1 3/4 mile record at Elkmont, as he was still accelerating after he crossed the finish line at the Belmont.
Kia was actually a direct competitor with Daewoo at the time.Agreed. My dad had a Kia Optima a few years back(I think it was an '09 model) and it honestly was a superb car. It was a great mid-sized car with a leather interior and satellite radio that still made about 36 or 37 mpg on the interstate. Honestly, I can't say enough good stuff about it. I chauferred a Nobel Laureate in it for a week(Bob Curl-96-Bucky Balls) when he was in Louisville and my LS was in the shop with a broken window regulator. That week included a trip to the Derby and a bunch of other time with him sitting in the passenger seat. I was far from ashamed to drive him around in it.
I also borrowed it a few times for long trips-I drove it to Valparaiso, IN for a watch show in August of '13 and again to Auburn, IN about a month and a half later. Those were roughly 500 mile round trips each, and Auburn was up and back in a day. It was comfortable, peppy when I needed it to be, had enough room for one or two people traveling, and I really appreciated how little gas it used.
It's still no American rear wheel drive V8
Curious why you say GM/Opel joint platform considering Opel is GM's European brand(along with Vauxhall). It's just a GM platform.
1) "From word of mouth" implies little significance. How many Saturns do you still see on the road? I see quite a few, many more I do than Daewoo. Throughout their history, JD Power rated Saturn one of the top 3 cars in customer satisfaction, even in 2000 they were #2, #1 being Lexus. That was reflected in their #13 place in resale value. That's usually not the case with unreliable cars.
2) Kim Woo Choong was not found to be money skimming. The company did however perform loan and accounting fraud in an attempt to save themselves. Ultimately the reason of Daewoo's demise was because over ambitiously spent money while incurring a massive amount of debt. Between 1996-1998 they Daewoo Motors purchased 14 car companies (during the Asian Economic Crisis when Daewoo Group was billions in debt already).
3) The few GM cars you refer to as "rebadged Daewoos" aren't really Daewoos. All Daewoos use GM sourced engines and transmissions (unless they use ZF). GM Korea is pretty much responsible for manufacturing at this point, not engineering- aside from the GSV platform (used in the Chevy Spark, Colbolt). That's really just the frame, suspension, and steering. With one part of a product to develop, they're not one of GM's powerhouse engineering subsidiaries.
4) Why manufacture in Korea? Because it's a 2-3rd world country where its far cheaper to build something than the Western World.
5) GM has been associated with Daewoo motors since their inception- either through partial owner ship or by selling parts to Daewoo to use in their cars (in the few years when entirely owned by Daewoo Group).
6)E-TEC engines used in the Chevy Cruze, Aveo, & Spark and Daewoo Lanos, Nubria, were developed by Opel, the German subsidiary of GM. The D-Tec engines in the Leganza are by Holden (GM Australia).
7) The only reason "Daewoo Motors" still exists the name recognition within Korea. Daewoo Group was a substantial player in Korea's economic development. In the US, it's associated with crappy cars and a fraudulent company. It would be like starting another company called "ENRON"
A 4 year old car with 38k miles isn't particularly old for a car. The fact it has so many unusual problems at 45,000 miles is a bit surprising, but then again your refusal of basic maintenance may be a confounding factor. Highway miles are considered to be less wear and tear FYI. Less wear on the transmission, breaks, steering, engine, etc. City traffic, shifting up and down, revving the engine up and down, making 90 degree turns, stopping for every red light is a lot more wear than cruising at 70mph at a 2-3k rpm.
Brakes are a consumable item, so that may be why they weren't covered, especially if it took you thousands of miles to report it. That sounds like your own ego getting in the way. If the AC failed and could not be resolved, you should have done some looking into the lemon law.
They're tacky, match nothing, and devalue your car.
The hypothetical people buying your car, isn't that what we're talking about? The crumbs, the scratches on the interior door panels, the adhesive on the dashboard, etc. For the crumbs try using one of those $.50 vacuums they have outside car washes- much more powerful.
Why not a 2006 Chevy Aveo considering you can't buy a Daewoo here? What about the feature of actually working, working reliability, and being able to find parts?
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1. Interesting choice, that didn't come to my mind
2. I completely forgot about the Marauder. I have a feeling the Crown Vic/Police Interceptors will be a collectors item. 90's + 00's police car nostalgia.
3. S-Type R- Perhaps, the super charged engines in those are fantastic. That said, they have long been criticized for their "cheap" and "ford-like" and not up to par with what a Jaguar interior should be. My friend used to have an S-Type R, that thing was a blast to drive. I suppose I have driven a form of the Lincoln LS!
4. CTS-V - Great choice
Some cars I think will make it:
- Hummer (H2 and H3, especially the H3 SUT) - People used to drive hummers? They're cool SUVs, only produced for a few years, and carry the image of driving a war vehicle.
- VW Touareg 1 & 2 - Not common cars, asthetically beautiful, very luxurious
- VW Phaeton - VW's attempt at true luxury sedan. Very rare and along with the Touareg, part of VW's few years of trying to build luxury cars
- P38 Range Rover (1995-2002) and Land Rover Discoveries - Cool cars, horrendously unreliable, not many left on the road today as it is.
- Mazda Miata
- Honda S2000
- Dodge Viper
- Last gen. BMW Z4 Hardtop
- SmartCars
1) "From word of mouth" implies little significance. How many Saturns do you still see on the road? I see quite a few, many more I do than Daewoo. Throughout their history, JD Power rated Saturn one of the top 3 cars in customer satisfaction, even in 2000 they were #2, #1 being Lexus. That was reflected in their #13 place in resale value. That's usually not the case with unreliable cars.
2) Kim Woo Choong was not found to be money skimming. The company did however perform loan and accounting fraud in an attempt to save themselves. Ultimately the reason of Daewoo's demise was because over ambitiously spent money while incurring a massive amount of debt. Between 1996-1998 they Daewoo Motors purchased 14 car companies (during the Asian Economic Crisis when Daewoo Group was billions in debt already).
3) The few GM cars you refer to as "rebadged Daewoos" aren't really Daewoos. All Daewoos use GM sourced engines and transmissions (unless they use ZF). GM Korea is pretty much responsible for manufacturing at this point, not engineering- aside from the GSV platform (used in the Chevy Spark, Colbolt). That's really just the frame, suspension, and steering. With one part of a product to develop, they're not one of GM's powerhouse engineering subsidiaries.
4) Why manufacture in Korea? Because it's a 2-3rd world country where its far cheaper to build something than the Western World.
5) GM has been associated with Daewoo motors since their inception- either through partial owner ship or by selling parts to Daewoo to use in their cars (in the few years when entirely owned by Daewoo Group).
6)E-TEC engines used in the Chevy Cruze, Aveo, & Spark and Daewoo Lanos, Nubria, were developed by Opel, the German subsidiary of GM. The D-Tec engines in the Leganza are by Holden (GM Australia).
7) The only reason "Daewoo Motors" still exists the name recognition within Korea. Daewoo Group was a substantial player in Korea's economic development. In the US, it's associated with crappy cars and a fraudulent company. It would be like starting another company called "ENRON"
A 4 year old car with 38k miles isn't particularly old for a car. The fact it has so many unusual problems at 45,000 miles is a bit surprising, but then again your refusal of basic maintenance may be a confounding factor. Highway miles are considered to be less wear and tear FYI. Less wear on the transmission, breaks, steering, engine, etc. City traffic, shifting up and down, revving the engine up and down, making 90 degree turns, stopping for every red light is a lot more wear than cruising at 70mph at a 2-3k rpm.
Brakes are a consumable item, so that may be why they weren't covered, especially if it took you thousands of miles to report it. That sounds like your own ego getting in the way. If the AC failed and could not be resolved, you should have done some looking into the lemon law.
They're tacky, match nothing, and devalue your car.
The hypothetical people buying your car, isn't that what we're talking about? The crumbs, the scratches on the interior door panels, the adhesive on the dashboard, etc. For the crumbs try using one of those $.50 vacuums they have outside car washes- much more powerful.
Why not a 2006 Chevy Aveo considering you can't buy a Daewoo here? What about the feature of actually working, working reliability, and being able to find parts?
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1. Interesting choice, that didn't come to my mind
2. I completely forgot about the Marauder. I have a feeling the Crown Vic/Police Interceptors will be a collectors item. 90's + 00's police car nostalgia.
3. S-Type R- Perhaps, the super charged engines in those are fantastic. That said, they have long been criticized for their "cheap" and "ford-like" and not up to par with what a Jaguar interior should be. My friend used to have an S-Type R, that thing was a blast to drive. I suppose I have driven a form of the Lincoln LS!
4. CTS-V - Great choice
Some cars I think will make it:
- Hummer (H2 and H3, especially the H3 SUT) - People used to drive hummers? They're cool SUVs, only produced for a few years, and carry the image of driving a war vehicle.
- VW Touareg 1 & 2 - Not common cars, asthetically beautiful, very luxurious
- VW Phaeton - VW's attempt at true luxury sedan. Very rare and along with the Touareg, part of VW's few years of trying to build luxury cars
- P38 Range Rover (1995-2002) and Land Rover Discoveries - Cool cars, horrendously unreliable, not many left on the road today as it is.
- Mazda Miata
- Honda S2000
- Dodge Viper
- Last gen. BMW Z4 Hardtop
- SmartCars
I know this is a 20 year old model, but the Acura/Honda Integra Type R will for sure be a classic, and what's too bad is most of them have been modded somehow.
1. the car is 15 years old in august, mileage at this point is irrelivent it's problems are related to age.1) "From word of mouth" implies little significance. How many Saturns do you still see on the road? I see quite a few, many more I do than Daewoo. Throughout their history, JD Power rated Saturn one of the top 3 cars in customer satisfaction, even in 2000 they were #2, #1 being Lexus. That was reflected in their #13 place in resale value. That's usually not the case with unreliable cars.
2) Kim Woo Choong was not found to be money skimming. The company did however perform loan and accounting fraud in an attempt to save themselves. Ultimately the reason of Daewoo's demise was because over ambitiously spent money while incurring a massive amount of debt. Between 1996-1998 they Daewoo Motors purchased 14 car companies (during the Asian Economic Crisis when Daewoo Group was billions in debt already).
3) The few GM cars you refer to as "rebadged Daewoos" aren't really Daewoos. All Daewoos use GM sourced engines and transmissions (unless they use ZF). GM Korea is pretty much responsible for manufacturing at this point, not engineering- aside from the GSV platform (used in the Chevy Spark, Colbolt). That's really just the frame, suspension, and steering. With one part of a product to develop, they're not one of GM's powerhouse engineering subsidiaries.
4) Why manufacture in Korea? Because it's a 2-3rd world country where its far cheaper to build something than the Western World.
5) GM has been associated with Daewoo motors since their inception- either through partial owner ship or by selling parts to Daewoo to use in their cars (in the few years when entirely owned by Daewoo Group).
6)E-TEC engines used in the Chevy Cruze, Aveo, & Spark and Daewoo Lanos, Nubria, were developed by Opel, the German subsidiary of GM. The D-Tec engines in the Leganza are by Holden (GM Australia).
7) The only reason "Daewoo Motors" still exists the name recognition within Korea. Daewoo Group was a substantial player in Korea's economic development. In the US, it's associated with crappy cars and a fraudulent company. It would be like starting another company called "ENRON"
A 4 year old car with 38k miles isn't particularly old for a car. The fact it has so many unusual problems at 45,000 miles is a bit surprising, but then again your refusal of basic maintenance may be a confounding factor. Highway miles are considered to be less wear and tear FYI. Less wear on the transmission, breaks, steering, engine, etc. City traffic, shifting up and down, revving the engine up and down, making 90 degree turns, stopping for every red light is a lot more wear than cruising at 70mph at a 2-3k rpm.
Brakes are a consumable item, so that may be why they weren't covered, especially if it took you thousands of miles to report it. That sounds like your own ego getting in the way. If the AC failed and could not be resolved, you should have done some looking into the lemon law.
They're tacky, match nothing, and devalue your car.
The hypothetical people buying your car, isn't that what we're talking about? The crumbs, the scratches on the interior door panels, the adhesive on the dashboard, etc. For the crumbs try using one of those $.50 vacuums they have outside car washes- much more powerful.
Why not a 2006 Chevy Aveo considering you can't buy a Daewoo here? What about the feature of actually working, working reliability, and being able to find parts?
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1. Interesting choice, that didn't come to my mind
2. I completely forgot about the Marauder. I have a feeling the Crown Vic/Police Interceptors will be a collectors item. 90's + 00's police car nostalgia.
3. S-Type R- Perhaps, the super charged engines in those are fantastic. That said, they have long been criticized for their "cheap" and "ford-like" and not up to par with what a Jaguar interior should be. My friend used to have an S-Type R, that thing was a blast to drive. I suppose I have driven a form of the Lincoln LS!
4. CTS-V - Great choice
Some cars I think will make it:
- Hummer (H2 and H3, especially the H3 SUT) - People used to drive hummers? They're cool SUVs, only produced for a few years, and carry the image of driving a war vehicle.
- VW Touareg 1 & 2 - Not common cars, asthetically beautiful, very luxurious
- VW Phaeton - VW's attempt at true luxury sedan. Very rare and along with the Touareg, part of VW's few years of trying to build luxury cars
- P38 Range Rover (1995-2002) and Land Rover Discoveries - Cool cars, horrendously unreliable, not many left on the road today as it is.
- Mazda Miata
- Honda S2000
- Dodge Viper
- Last gen. BMW Z4 Hardtop
- SmartCars
2. Pads were worn prematurely due to warped discs from the factory. My guess is they were warped because they tightened the lug bolts too much. YOU NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE use air tools on lug nuts/bolts!
3. They are not pink, and they were not from walmart. THAT was the point of that statement. They dont match the interior YET but once i get the silver dash trim it will because the Daewoo Lanos Sport has a black/red leather interior with a red leather stitched shifter and red leather-wrapped steering wheel.
4. What scratches? the door panels, although dirty do not have any scratches. The adheasive is duct tape residue used pre-2006 to keep the cord from the tape adapter for the CD Player Car kit out of the way. I have tried cleaning it off.
5. I did say UNLESS its a Daewoo Kalos the Daewoo Kalos IS the Chevy Aveo in the US and as of 2012 the Chevy Sonic.
Also isn't AUDI Volkswagen's lux brand? Like Acura is to honda Lexus is to "Toyoter" and Infiniti is to Nissan?
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People do say trying to buy a used, un-molested Honda can be a difficult task expecially when looking for a specific model.
I would have thought the Bentley to be "Lux" and Lamborghini and Bugatti more "Lux - Sport" of any of VAG's vehicles.
But, who can tell a teenager anything.
KGB
1. I'm think most of the problems are related to poor maintenance, either or by your neglect or just not having things adequately fixed in the first place, which leads to bigger issues down the road. I distinctly remember you telling me time doesn't matter, only mileage does thus you didn't want to change any fluids in your car.
2. "Warped rotors" aren't usually warped. is usually caused by overheating of the brakes, brake pad resin glazing, etc. If you don't break in your brakes (aka use them too aggressively in the beginning), you can glaze them which causes uneven wear. The other issue could be overtightened lugs or an untrue fit. In either case, I ask why you defend this car as being so good, but then when push come to shoves they come broken and then refuse to fix it? Why would you want to buy a car like that?
2.1. I definitely agree on the lug nuts and pneumatic tools. Last year this AAA tow truck idiot stripped the locking lug nut key on my Mom's Lexus. When we got to the tire shop to get the wheel repaired, they found the key a mangled mess and couldn't take the spare off. Then we had to go to the dealer.
Just to reference your comments I will post your pictures here-
3. Sorry, magenta. Where are you going to find a metallic magenta color trim- cut to match your dashboard? NVM I see you said silver, but FYI Silver and Magenta don't match. All these little $10 "mods" could be better spent maintaining or fixing your car. Whether it came from WalMart or not, they sell the same things at Wall Mart.
3.1. It sounds like the Lanos Sport might have matched better. The red color is accented in the seats, door trim, etc. You have a completely black interior with 2 metallic magenta things (and you can't see the pedals when you're driving BTW). Not is that one burst of color unappealing, the difference in materials do not match. Plastic looks like cheap hard plastic, the metal looks is industrial, and then your seat covers are floral. The patterns and textures are off.
4. Looks pretty scratched to me...
4.1 You have tried cleaning it off but... you didn't finish? The adhesive look is not very aesthetically pleasing.
5. It's not really a Daewoo though, it's owned by GM, run by GM, micromanaged by GM. It's a GM engine with a GM Transmission. The only thing Korea designs in the frame of the car and they assemble it there. ''
6. Yes, Audi, VW Porsche are the same company (not including their exotics). Lexus and Toyota are the same. Honda-Acura. Nissan-Infiniti. What's the point? An Audi and VW are not the same care. In the US... Lexus and Toyotas are not the same car and Hondas and Acuras are not the same. There are big differences between their brands. GM up until very recently had a tendency to rebrand cars with zero differences between the cars other than different name badges. I'm sure the difference between a Chevy Sonic and a Daewoo Khaleesi (I like that name better) is negligible since they're not sold within the same market.
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1st pictures are not MAGENTA! They are Red CHROME with Carbon Fiber trim (shifter) and the pedals are red CHROME with silver accents. Ans where would walmart have these? I am in the automotive accessory section quite often and i never seen any pedal covers.1. I'm think most of the problems are related to poor maintenance, either or by your neglect or just not having things adequately fixed in the first place, which leads to bigger issues down the road. I distinctly remember you telling me time doesn't matter, only mileage does thus you didn't want to change any fluids in your car.
2. "Warped rotors" aren't usually warped. is usually caused by overheating of the brakes, brake pad resin glazing, etc. If you don't break in your brakes (aka use them too aggressively in the beginning), you can glaze them which causes uneven wear. The other issue could be overtightened lugs or an untrue fit. In either case, I ask why you defend this car as being so good, but then when push come to shoves they come broken and then refuse to fix it? Why would you want to buy a car like that?
2.1. I definitely agree on the lug nuts and pneumatic tools. Last year this AAA tow truck idiot stripped the locking lug nut key on my Mom's Lexus. When we got to the tire shop to get the wheel repaired, they found the key a mangled mess and couldn't take the spare off. Then we had to go to the dealer.
Just to reference your comments I will post your pictures here-
3. Sorry, magenta. Where are you going to find a metallic magenta color trim- cut to match your dashboard? NVM I see you said silver, but FYI Silver and Magenta don't match. All these little $10 "mods" could be better spent maintaining or fixing your car. Whether it came from WalMart or not, they sell the same things at Wall Mart.
3.1. It sounds like the Lanos Sport might have matched better. The red color is accented in the seats, door trim, etc. You have a completely black interior with 2 metallic magenta things (and you can't see the pedals when you're driving BTW). Not is that one burst of color unappealing, the difference in materials do not match. Plastic looks like cheap hard plastic, the metal looks is industrial, and then your seat covers are floral. The patterns and textures are off.
4. Looks pretty scratched to me...
4.1 You have tried cleaning it off but... you didn't finish? The adhesive look is not very aesthetically pleasing.
5. It's not really a Daewoo though, it's owned by GM, run by GM, micromanaged by GM. It's a GM engine with a GM Transmission. The only thing Korea designs in the frame of the car and they assemble it there. ''
6. Yes, Audi, VW Porsche are the same company (not including their exotics). Lexus and Toyota are the same. Honda-Acura. Nissan-Infiniti. What's the point? An Audi and VW are not the same care. In the US... Lexus and Toyotas are not the same car and Hondas and Acuras atte not the same. There are big differences between their brands. GM up until very recently had a tendency to rebrand cars with zero differences between the cars other than different name badges. I'm sure the difference between a Chevy Sonic and a Daewoo Khaleesi (I like that name better) is negligible since they're not sold within the same market.
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2nd picture is not scratched door panels, that is dirt from the bottom of shoes in winter. I never bothered to clean the door panels.
lastly I don't give 2 ***** about what people "THINK" of the look of the interior. It's MY car and you shouldn't complain about it because you have no business to complain about A car that doesn't even belong to you.
I will eventually get the Sport interior trim for my car. I will eventually get aftermarket seats and a aftermarket steering wheel when all said and done the interior will be silver black and red
Go out and buy yourself a lightly used Civic SI. You would love it. Also, leave the purple pedal covers. With all the money you wasted on a Daewoo, you could mugen the crap out of an SI.
Any model that calls to Honda's sporty history is extremely popular. The S2000 is another one. Honda completely outdid the Miata with the S2K. Unfortunately, Honda only makes econo boxes with the H emblem today.
Sorry, that was not the best way to phrase that.
The point remains, however, that it's a GM platform that has been sold for a few years under the Daewoo name in Korea-not the other way around.
When you share on a public forum, there's pretty much an implied, "I'm open for for comments".
General modification protip:
I think it's fun to do up an interior, but there are good choices, and bad choices. I've even gone into slightly overdone territory, but even if it didn't groove with someone from a styling choice, it was at least following some kind of design plan (i.e., yellow to match a yellow exterior, gray/silver/carbon to match a dark gray exterior, etc.)
My car is 11 years old, and has about 3x the mileage of yours. I bought it with 56K on it, and it now has around 137K. Of the 80,000 miles I've put on it, probably 75% of them are interstate miles.
My car is hardly perfect physically, but I can tell you that if you couldn't get something like sticker residue off you didn't try hard enough.
I'm anal about my cars interior-again, it's not perfect(it's hard to go 11 years and close to 140,000 miles and keep it that way) but I do what I can. And, by that I mean that I've been known to pop out interior panels and scrub the cracks with a toothbrush+plastic or leather cleaner. Every couple of months, I pop the hood and spend time with plastic, rubber, or body cleaner, a couple of rags, and a toothbrush going over everything I can reach. I do the same in the same around the trunk, the interior door jams, and even around the gas filler.
That's also not to mention hand washing, claying, and hand waxing(with Carnuba paste wax). Then there's the once a year when I pop each wheel off-in turn-to clean up the wheel wells, back of the wheels, brake calipers, and anything else I can get to.
Yes, that's probably going over the top, but I see it as having three benefits:
1. I enjoy doing it
2. I enjoy getting into a clean car
3. If/when I do sell it, the constant appearance maintenance I've done will help the resale value.
Reliability isn't what I'd call a useless feature. But I guess you don't really care for reliability, after all, you drive a Daewoo.
If you think your car is ever going to be a "classic" and go up in value, you better start caring. Classic cars don't have filthy interiors with aftermarket pedals and shift knobs from the clearance bin at Auto Zone.
More aftermarket crap to reduce the car's value. And aftermarket steering wheel means you're removing the drivers side airbag. Not the brightest idea on a car with working brakes, a terrible idea on a car like yours with all the brake issues. With all the money you're spending on stuff that adds zero value to the car, you could buy something newer, safer and more reliable.
Think about it, when it actually comes time to trade the car in, the dealer is not going to offer you more money for it because it has aftermarket pedals and seats.
The shifter and pedal (which ill eventually remove because that started falling apart after a few months) WILL Match the Sport interior i'll eventually get for it.When you share on a public forum, there's pretty much an implied, "I'm open for for comments".
General modification protip:
I think it's fun to do up an interior, but there are good choices, and bad choices. I've even gone into slightly overdone territory, but even if it didn't groove with someone from a styling choice, it was at least following some kind of design plan (i.e., yellow to match a yellow exterior, gray/silver/carbon to match a dark gray exterior, etc.)
I will eventually upgrade the sound system which will mean installing new speakers which ill clean and paint the door panels then. I prefer a black interior not a gray one.
1st off the USELESS features I am refering too is more airbags (just more 200MPH walls hitting you in the face and body), touch screen stereos, bluetooth, iPod compatibility, Wifi, "Infotainment" systems review cameras, parking assist (if you cannot back up a car without a camera or cannot park without assistance you SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING!)
2nd off the car isn't going to be sold I HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR BEFORE. I dont give a flying **** about airbags i ripped out the fuse and disabled them YEARS ago. I WILL rip out the air bag computer when i have enough ambition to do it. 200MPH brick wall hitting my face and body? no thanks! Air bags are deadly and more harm than good. you would think after 25 years of them existing that they could find a way to make them less than $1500 per bag. a BIG chunk of the MSRP of cars is airbags the more you have the more you pay just for airbags alone.
Then you have all this other **** that when it breaks it'll be cheaper to junk than to fix. Atleast adding aftermarket YOU have control. I dont at all like the automatic DRL setup of the impala or the way the fog lights are wired one bit. Atleast installing LED DRLs and either OE or LED fog lights on my car I can control how they function!