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D.T.

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I wish we got some of that sweet higher octane fuel out here instead of being stuck with 91.

Yeah, that's tough, up in PA, they even have 94 at the pump (the Sunoco near me, has some race gas at the pump, ~$9/g :D Sunoco is very high quality gas BTW, based on scanner results from several stations)

I actually run E (ethanol) Flex, reasonably available, it's more powerful (the E content at the local Gate results in ~100 octane), runs cooler (safer), cleaner, and in some areas cheaper vs. 93 (I think it's a wash for me as E is burned quicker). I use a flex tune that adapts to different E content, all the way down to 93 gas (i.e., ~E10), in case you don't have it available.
 
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@Relentless Power Good call on passing up the tune. That amount of power is probably sufficient to blow the doors off of most cars on the road. The extra tune would probably be better if you intended on going to the track with it, eh?

Plus, if it were me, I wouldn't want to have to go to the airport every time I needed to fuel up the car.

Do you have an idea of how much torque the engine outputs as it is?

As mentioned before, on 91 octane Tune with the Supercharger, the car was pushing just over 450HP/385TQ conservatively. The owner provided me the dyno graph from that specific tune (See below), in the duration while he was trying to sell it and contemplated keeping it, Next was a 93 octane tune which bumped it to 520HP/405 Tq with other inclusions of the fuel system/injectors (30lb Ford fuel injectors if I recall from what he shared),And much much more which I’ll share with the pictures later.

The shop that tuned this car originally was ‘Alternative auto’ in Michigan (Lidio is the head guy). I’m not sure if you know anything about them [Being It’s in your state], but they’re like the ‘premier’ in terms of tuning Mustangs with boosted applications.
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As mentioned before, on 91 octane Tune with the Supercharger, the car was pushing just over 450HP/385TQ conservatively. The owner provided me the dyno graph from that specific tune (See below), in the duration while he was trying to sell it and contemplated keeping it, Next was a 93 octane tune which bumped it to 520HP/405 Tq with other inclusions of the fuel system/injectors (30lb Ford fuel injectors if I recall from what he shared),And much much more which I’ll share with the pictures later.

The shop that tuned this car originally was ‘Alternative auto’ in Michigan (Lidio is the head guy). I’m not sure if you know anything about them [Being It’s in your state], but they’re like the ‘premier’ in terms of tuning Mustangs with boosted applications.
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@quagmire

I have a hypothetical for you. Let’s say you weren’t a Camaro owner, and you we’re in the market for two vehicles, and had the choice between a 19’ Camaro 2SS (10 Speed) or 17’ Chevy SS sedan (Auto), which would you choose and why? (Both vehicles would have less than 3000 miles.) Let’s just say that I’m toying around with some different things for a possible trade. I trust your input being your a level-headed dude and you’re GM orientated.
 

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I just figured out the location of where Ford introduced the new Bronco and it’s literally only 30 miles from my home. It’s the Holly Oaks ORV park in Oakland County which opens officially next month. This is will probably be the first place I take the Bronco (whenever I get it, hopefully in 2021 and not 2022).


 
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@quagmire

I have a hypothetical for you. Let’s say you weren’t a Camaro owner, and you we’re in the market for two vehicles, and had the choice between a 19’ Camaro 2SS (10 Speed) or 17’ Chevy SS sedan (Auto), which would you choose and why? (Both vehicles would have less than 3000 miles.) Let’s just say that I’m toying around with some different things for a possible trade. I trust your input being your a level-headed dude and you’re GM orientated.

Hmm... Tough one. Besides it being ugly as sin, the ‘19 Camaro is a much better vehicle over the SS sedan in terms of performance, chassis, etc. but the SS sedan is a rarer vehicle, more practical, still great performance, get to avoid the problems with the A8 and the A6 isn’t bad, and a true sleeper. Don’t have to worry about carbon build up with the LS3.

If I could mod the ‘19 to the ‘20’s front end( which looks easy to do), I would say Camaro. If not, I would rather go bland than ugly. I considered the SS sedan when buying my Camaro, but I didn’t want to buy a car on its last leg( sadly). But tough choice either way.
 

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Hmm... Tough one. Besides it being ugly as sin, the ‘19 Camaro is a much better vehicle over the SS sedan in terms of performance, chassis, etc. but the SS sedan is a rarer vehicle, more practical, still great performance, get to avoid the problems with the A8 and the A6 isn’t bad, and a true sleeper. Don’t have to worry about carbon build up with the LS3.

If I could mod the ‘19 to the ‘20’s front end( which looks easy to do), I would say Camaro. If not, I would rather go bland than ugly. I considered the SS sedan when buying my Camaro, but I didn’t want to buy a car on its last leg( sadly). But tough choice either way.

What years was the A8 and A6 for the Camaro? The SS sedan I really like, I also considered one back in 2017, but I passed on it. I still have a few bookmarked, but the inflation is incredible. The 19 SS appeals to me more and more when I look at them. Another YouTuber said the same thing with his red SS, that he knocked it real hard and then talked about how he’s grown to love the way it looks. Also, the A10 seems to be the game-changer with the Camaro, which is something I would like to experience.
 

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What years was the A8 and A6 for the Camaro? The SS sedan I really like, I also considered one back in 2017, but I passed on it. I still have a few bookmarked, but the inflation is incredible. The 19 SS appeals to me more and more when I look at them. Another YouTuber said the same thing with his red SS, that he knocked it real hard and then talked about how he’s grown to love the way it looks. Also, the A10 seems to be the game-changer with the Camaro, which is something I would like to experience.

A6 was only in the 5th gen Camaro. Wasn’t a bad transmission at all. The A8 is 2016-2018 for SS and 2016-2019 for the V6 and I4. Not a bad one either besides the shudder issue.
 

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Also, the A10 seems to be the game-changer with the Camaro, which is something I would like to experience.

The A10 is orders-of-magnitude better than previous (A6/A8 Ford/GM, Dodge's A8 is pretty outstanding) autos, and not just the addition of 4 or 2 more gears (though only having a ~20% RPM drop during a shift is amazing), all the tech (6-clutches / no-unlock during shifts / dual highly optimized pumps / all sorts of friction reduction).

My A10 is also [aftermarket] tuned, standard mode is close to stock, but Sport+ or Drag mode are wicked. The latter is especially fun since it operates with the magnetic suspension, softens the rear for a hard squat, line locks, __goes__. :D
 

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A6 was only in the 5th gen Camaro. Wasn’t a bad transmission at all. The A8 is 2016-2018 for SS and 2016-2019 for the V6 and I4. Not a bad one either besides the shudder issue.

I analyzed the SS Sedan Purchase from all angles today, The exorbitant inflation on those cars isn’t practical. For example, a 2017 SS (Blaze orange metallic) with 2000 miles retails almost for $50,000. That’s just insane for a three year old car (I know they only shipped over 8000-ish models) when I can purchase factory new SS for that or slightly under. You‘d really have to have a ‘hard-on’ for the Sedan to want a four-door with a V8.

Which got my mind thinking more, it’s either between an SS Camaro or a dual motor Model 3.
 

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Yeah, that's tough, up in PA, they even have 94 at the pump (the Sunoco near me, has some race gas at the pump, ~$9/g :D Sunoco is very high quality gas BTW, based on scanner results from several stations)

I actually run E (ethanol) Flex, reasonably available, it's more powerful (the E content at the local Gate results in ~100 octane), runs cooler (safer), cleaner, and in some areas cheaper vs. 93 (I think it's a wash for me as E is burned quicker). I use a flex tune that adapts to different E content, all the way down to 93 gas (i.e., ~E10), in case you don't have it available.
I've seen the Flex badge on cars before. I never knew it was ethanol. I thought it was electric. Granted I haven't seen many of them and the last one was some weird looking crossover a few years back. A cursory search on the gov websites shows me several nearby gas stations carry E85. Ones I fill up at. I'll have a look around the next time I finish.
 

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I've seen the Flex badge on cars before. I never knew it was ethanol. I thought it was electric. Granted I haven't seen many of them and the last one was some weird looking crossover a few years back. A cursory search on the gov websites shows me several nearby gas stations carry E85. Ones I fill up at. I'll have a look around the next time I finish.

Yes! There's a few "E85" locators, although, in many cases that's not actual E85, i.e., 85% ethanol, many are "Flex" which at our Gate stations indicate 55-83% Some people test the E content, and folks around here have said it's about 70, which is a good 100 octane. The Mustang isn't officially a Flex fuel car, and the tuning uses a few "tricks", people running a dedicated E85 (i.e., 85%) "race" type tune have to swap out the tune to run something like 93, but it's a bit more powerful and it doesn't ramp up the timing based on E measurements (it's fixed).

There's are a number of people with MY18+ cars running race/E85 tunes, a little intake/exhaust work putting down ~470 rwhp (that's over 550 at the motor, for more or less just a tune ...)
 
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Hey all, just thought I would share my little sports coupe, a 2011 Volvo C30 T5 with a manual six-speed gearbox. It's a quick little thing, and it continues my love of Volvos. Plus it's got iPod integration so how can I be mad when I can listen to all of my tunes and control them from the steering wheel!

I bought it a month ago, from the original owner, with 92k miles.

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Holy Balls...a $72,000 TRX Ram with a Hellcat engine with 702HP. A bit late to the game With the Raptor in place, but this is what a truck should be with a V8 exceeding the ‘norm’. Decent year for FCA with the Hellcat line expanding with the wide-bodies and to the Durango.

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After three months of driving my 2014 Charger RT AWD with the Whipple supercharger installed, I'm happy to report that it was definitely a worthwhile upgrade.

Oddly enough, I keep my foot out of it more now than I did when it was a stock 5.7.

That said, when I want to pass on a two-lane road, merge onto a highway, or simple enjoy our sparsely-populated rural roads in more spirited fashion, there is more than ample power on tap.

My need for speed appears to be satisfied.
 
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After three months of driving my 2014 Charger RT AWD with the Whipple supercharger installed, I'm happy to report that it was definitely a worthwhile upgrade.

Oddly enough, I keep my foot out of it more now than I did when it was a stock 5.7.

That said, when I want to pass on a two-lane road, merge onto a highway, or simple enjoy our sparsely-populated rural roads in more spirited fashion, there is more than ample power on tap.

My need for speed appears to be satisfied.
I have a 2014 Charger, RWD, which is a former police car handed down from the Sheriff to my department. While it doesn't have a supercharger on it, the 5.7 in this patrol car is stupid fast, and I mean stupid fast! If I sneeze on the accelerator too hard the car will go sideways on me in a heartbeat.

I love it!
 
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Man as soon as I move out of London I am buying a Tesla Model 3 until the Cybertruck launches. I just love that bloody thing.

I also got a lot of love for big engined ICE cars but it's getting more and more expensive to own one mostly due to the government and their taxes. If you get an EV you're suddenly exempt from road tax, congestion charge, and probably more. Plus they're cheaper to run anyway due to simply being EVs.

One of my dream cars would be a G63 and I would have that simply because if I could afford to actually buy and insure one it means I got enough cash to deal with the rest. A man can dream though eh?

Some nice pics on here. I have to say I actually like those big American trucks. Completely impractical for narrow British roads. But that doesn't make them less awesome. I especially love the classic 60's era American cars of all shapes and sizes, those things are absolutely beautifully designed.
 

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[...] or simple enjoy our sparsely-populated rural roads in more spirited fashion [...]


Hahaha, nicely said :D

I keep thinking about FI on my GT, but I mean, it already gets loose from 1-2-3 shifts, and that's running a 305/35 on the rear. Honestly, if I had easy access to full E85 (see my post above), I'd do an E85 specific tune, maybe go all out N/A, swap to a CJ intake mani, go ahead and do headers, something kind of cool about 600HP without FI.
 
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I have a 2014 Charger, RWD, which is a former police car handed down from the Sheriff to my department.

So, you do or don’t have a Charger? Cuz’ you said below it wasn’t yours a few pages back. You mentioned in this post it has official decals with the County name on it, ect. Not trying to insinuate you’re dishonest, but you said two different things.[Post 12,058]

I have to be careful when driving the Charger because it's not my car



While it doesn't have a supercharger on it

I get what you’re saying here, but No factory 5.7’s are stock with a supercharger added From FCA, and certainly no PI’s were supercharged either.

the 5.7 in this patrol car is stupid fast, and I mean stupid fast! If I sneeze on the accelerator too hard the car will go sideways on me in a heartbeatt.

We all have different interpretations of fast, but actually, the 5.7 motor in the Charger isn’t really that fast at 375 HP (But it’s a very stout motor). As matter fact, it’s actually limited by A governor to 110 for a top speed For the P.I. Version. The 5.7 picks up on the top and, but if you have the AWD, it makes a big difference with torque.
 
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Hahaha, nicely said :D

I keep thinking about FI on my GT, but I mean, it already gets loose from 1-2-3 shifts, and that's running a 305/35 on the rear. Honestly, if I had easy access to full E85 (see my post above), I'd do an E85 specific tune, maybe go all out N/A, swap to a CJ intake mani, go ahead and do headers, something kind of cool about 600HP without FI.

600 HP NA is impressive! I figure that’s about what my Charger is making at the crank, based on the dyno of 530 AWHP, and about the same in TQ.

I’m probably at the limit of my drivetrain, so no more engine mods for me!
 

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So, you do or don’t have a Charger? Cuz’ you said below it wasn’t yours a few pages back. You mentioned in this post it has official decals with the County name on it, ect. Not trying to insinuate you’re dishonest, but you said two different things.[Post 12,058]

I get what you’re saying here, but No factory 5.7’s are stock with a supercharger added From FCA, and certainly no PI’s were supercharged either.

We all have different interpretations of fast, but actually, the 5.7 motor in the Charger isn’t really that fast at 375 HP (But it’s a very stout motor). As matter fact, it’s actually limited by A governor to 110 for a top speed For the P.I. Version. The 5.7 picks up on the top and, but if you have the AWD, it makes a big difference with torque.
No, it's not mine, it belongs to my department as I mentioned. Since I also run the department, I can also say it's mine, in a sense.
 
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600 HP NA is impressive! I figure that’s about what my Charger is making at the crank, based on the dyno of 530 AWHP, and about the same in TQ.

I’m probably at the limit of my drivetrain, so no more engine mods for me!

Yeah, you just start breaking other stuff, that's why some of these higher power FI builds get well over $15K, all the extra cost for a transmission build, half-shafts, etc., and pop a motor, there's another $5K+

That NA build above would probably include doing the OPG/CGs, so it could safely/reliably spin over 8000 RPM, but that's like $1500 by itself (cheap parts, LOTS of labor). That's why I'm just got of sitting on what I've got, it's extremely quick as it sits, and already easily overpowers the tires.

My next minor mod: I'm waiting on the revised Velossa ducts for the MY18+, I had them on my '16, neat product, it isolates the air intake pack out to the grill, so you don't get a lot of backwash heat from the engine, definitely dropped my IATs around town a good 8-10 degrees. Those plus a no-Pony grill, and I'll cut out the corners, should look pretty neat too, getting them in matching orange.

You know, you should make an acceleration video :) I've love to see it run!
 
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No, it's not mine, it belongs to my department as I mentioned. Since I also run the department, I can also say it's mine, in a sense.

Oh Ok, thanks for clarifying. There was another post you insinuated:

“One car I have, I have a lot of fun with. I have a department car I got from my Sheriff after they decommissioned it. A 2014 Dodge Charger, RWD.“

So I thought it was your car, which is how you made it sound in two different posts, but now it’s your department car handed you got from the ‘the sheriff’ and ‘you run it’ as you mentioned. If you ‘run a Department’, why would they hand a squad car down to you? (You don’t need to answer that, I’m just thinking out loud.) Because in Michigan, retired squads are are sent to auction. (Ask me how I know that.😁) Heck, I can’t even have/buy a squad handed down to me without having to go to auctions first per agency guidelines even with cash in my hand.

I realize I’m grilling you, but I just wasn’t clear what your wording meant and I found it odd that ‘your department‘ would give you a squad car (when that’s not how it works), But it’s not really yours to begin with either, but handed to you from ‘the sheriff,’ but you run the the department as said. Strangely worded and scenario. (That’s just the detective nature in me. Not trying to start a rift with you, but ya know.)
 
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