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Matz

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Awesome. Good point about the AWD system. My question is, with the PTU fluid, is yours lifetime or do you have to change that like every 10,000 miles or something?
Turns out the first inspection is at 48,000 miles, and the first change is at 96,000 miles. Mine is about to turn 50,000, and was checked last year. When I change the break-in oil at 500, I'll have a look at it to see what kind of a chore it is.
 
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Turns out the first inspection is at 48,000 miles, and the first change is at 96,000 miles. Mine is about to turn 50,000, and was checked last year. When I change the break-in oil at 500, I'll have a look at it to see what kind of a chore it is.
The reason I ask, was with Ford, they claim ‘lifetime’ PTU fluid on the eco-boost Explorer/Taurus SHO’s, but there’s been heavy talk on forums that that is not the case, that PTU’s were burning out at 15,000 miles or less. I changed mine at 10,000 just recently, however; Ford won’t actually service the PTU fluid because of their alleged lifetime claim.

I have an independent mechanic that’s really good that serviced some of my cars in the past, and although not difficult to do, it’s labor-intensive, because usually the PTU unit is wedged above the catalytic converter, where the entire exhaust has to be taken apart. I guess the big report is, as long as there’s no metal shards when they drain the fluid, that’s a good sign there’s so indication of premature wear/gear failure. [FYI, I used 75-140 rear axle lubricant on my SHO.]
 

bunnspecial

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If you care about your car, I think it's ridiculous to consider any fluid a "lifetime" fluid.

And yes, I do change things that are not found in many maintenance schedules now now like ATF and rear differential. I usually count on changing these at about 50K miles, but have had times when I changed them earlier. I know back when I had my Lincoln LS(easily my favorite daily driver car I've owned) they pushed the ATF as "lifetime" but the guy who designed the transmission-who also hung out at the LS Owners Club forum-said change it every 30K miles. I did mine faithfully that often-and I had the dealership do it with some arm twisting as flushing an automatic transmission is nearly always preferable to drain+fill since the latter doesn't drain the torque converter and if you're lucky changes 1/3 the fluid.

Don't forget too while you're at it that you should change your brake fluid at least every few years(it doesn't wear out with mileage, but unless you're using DOT 5 full synthetic it sucks up water like crazy)...something many people don't even think about. I'm not great about cleaning it out completely since it's a pain, but when I do brake pads, for example, I always open the bleeders before pushing in the pistons and then top up.
 

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If you care about your car, I think it's ridiculous to consider any fluid a "lifetime" fluid.

And yes, I do change things that are not found in many maintenance schedules now now like ATF and rear differential. I usually count on changing these at about 50K miles, but have had times when I changed them earlier. I know back when I had my Lincoln LS(easily my favorite daily driver car I've owned) they pushed the ATF as "lifetime" but the guy who designed the transmission-who also hung out at the LS Owners Club forum-said change it every 30K miles. I did mine faithfully that often-and I had the dealership do it with some arm twisting as flushing an automatic transmission is nearly always preferable to drain+fill since the latter doesn't drain the torque converter and if you're lucky changes 1/3 the fluid.

Don't forget too while you're at it that you should change your brake fluid at least every few years(it doesn't wear out with mileage, but unless you're using DOT 5 full synthetic it sucks up water like crazy)...something many people don't even think about. I'm not great about cleaning it out completely since it's a pain, but when I do brake pads, for example, I always open the bleeders before pushing in the pistons and then top up.
The fluid I change most often is the one you put in the side with the big green nozzle. Now if only they could make that a lifetime fluid!
 
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Nütztjanix

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If you care about your car, I think it's ridiculous to consider any fluid a "lifetime" fluid.

And yes, I do change things that are not found in many maintenance schedules now now like ATF and rear differential. I usually count on changing these at about 50K miles, but have had times when I changed them earlier. I know back when I had my Lincoln LS(easily my favorite daily driver car I've owned) they pushed the ATF as "lifetime" but the guy who designed the transmission-who also hung out at the LS Owners Club forum-said change it every 30K miles. I did mine faithfully that often-and I had the dealership do it with some arm twisting as flushing an automatic transmission is nearly always preferable to drain+fill since the latter doesn't drain the torque converter and if you're lucky changes 1/3 the fluid.

Don't forget too while you're at it that you should change your brake fluid at least every few years(it doesn't wear out with mileage, but unless you're using DOT 5 full synthetic it sucks up water like crazy)...something many people don't even think about. I'm not great about cleaning it out completely since it's a pain, but when I do brake pads, for example, I always open the bleeders before pushing in the pistons and then top up.
While car makers will often tell you something is "lifetime" or "maintenance free", the manufacturer of the actual component tends to see things more realistically. On my daily driver BMW there's a sticker on the transmission stating that the oil is not to be changed since it's a lifetime fill. If you ask the actual manufacturer of said transmission (ZF or Getrag), they will tell you to change that oil every 60.000 km.
 

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I agree with Nutz and it’s a valid observation. What the auto manufacturers recommends for servicing and what the actual component manufacturer suggests for fluid maintenance are two different tangents. Plus, we’ve seen time and time again auto manufacturers aren’t always right, thus causing them to revise their warranty/P&P guidelines when they receive pattern reports. Fords PTU units being a prime example of why they are in the wrong with lifetime fluid, when there should be intervals of fluid changes to prevent gear breakdown.
 

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Pictures incoming. It’s been difficult getting my performance cars in and out, with construction on our street, and dust has been a problem as a result of that.

Speaking of. Ceramic coated and topped off the wheels with black light polish.

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SactoGuy18

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Speaking of cars, Toyota has announced the US version of the Corolla Cross SUV. Unlike the original versions sold in Southeast Asia, the US version will use the M20A-FKS engine rated at 169 bhp (126 kW) and will be offered with optional all-wheel drive. I expect a hybrid version the fall of 2022, probably an uprated version of the original Corolla Cross hybrid setup sold in Southeast Asia.
 

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2022 Ford Maverick announcement:


Basically what you’re seeing, is a ‘hybrid’ of gas/electric for the Maverick starting at ~$20k. It will be utilizing a 2.0l with 162 HP. Shockingly, this will be a _front_ wheel Drive standard, with an AWD option. It’s obvious Ford is using some older architecture here, and trying to match the lower truck segment with an affordable entry line.

From the second photo showing the rear of the truck, I don’t care for it. It looks like the Chevy Avalanche back style. But I still think this truck will do well, being it is a hybrid, but I think it’s odd that it’s adding front-wheel-drive as a standard, especially given this is a ‘truck’.
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bunnspecial

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What would possess Ford to

1. Bring back the Maverick name in the first place. The original isn't exactly from one of their finer moments.

2. Use it on a truck...it was never anything but a car

Ford has had some awful names over the years(Probe anyone?) or names that weren't bad in and of themselves but were associated with bad products(Pinto comes to mind). The Maverick was just a ho-hum strangled 70s family hauler-okay I guess for the time, and I'd rather have had one than a Pinto-but not exactly a car people lust after.
 
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We got a good deal with payments under $300. 37k miles, bumper to bumper warranty through Toyota at no extra cost. 2017 Corolla iM.
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Love it.

That’s a bulletproof drive train with the 1.8l and at 37,000 miles, you’re not even close to being breaking in that car. It’s a peppy engine. I really like the hatch style, and I believe those wheels are called ‘swirl wheels’, which is something similar Honda uses for styling on the Accord, they look really good with the two-tone monochromatic paint. On the bonus side of things, you have the warranty, which hopefully you won’t have to use given the ultimate reliability that follows the Corolla, but good to have.

Haven’t seen you in awhile BTW. Drop back in some time and give your thoughts.
 
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Love it.

That’s a bulletproof drive train with the 1.8l and at 37,000 miles, you’re not even close to being breaking in that car. It’s a peppy engine. I really like the hatch style, and I believe those wheels are called ‘swirl wheels’, which is something similar Honda uses for styling on the Accord, they look really good with the two-tone monochromatic paint. On the bonus side of things, you have the warranty, which hopefully you won’t have to use given the ultimate reliability that follows the Corolla, but good to have.

Haven’t seen you in awhile BTW. Drop back in some time and give your thoughts.

It certainly drives like it's new. It's very similar to my Yaris in the way it feels. I was going to get a new one but it was just so hard to find and expensive. I hated the radio in the new ones, the touchscreen is way over the dash. So this car gives what I wanted without the insane price and distracting radio.

I am really happy to have both our cars be manufactured in Japan. I'm such a dork like that I guess.

Yeah, politics gets ugly and heated on this site a lot so I hadn't really been interacting much. Hope things are going well for you!
 
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macOS Lynx

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Plan on getting a new car within the next 2 years.

Right now, where I live, an electric car just is not an option (It's a townhouse/apartment complex, and I've spoken with the property managers, and they're not willing to invest the effort and deal with the disruption of traffic due to construction of charging stations at this time) - so unless my property managers change their mind or we move to a house or place with a garage in the next 2-3 years, I'm stuck with a hybrid or PHEV as my best option.

I'm REALLY interested in both the Maverick and Santa Cruz. I'm leaning towards Maverick because of the standard hybrid engine, though I'm a bit disappointed with the power figures and towing (I mean, I know it's a small truck, but the ecoboost has double the towing of the hybrid).

Or maybe I'll get lucky in my job search and I could get a Ranger Tremor or F-150 Hybrid.
 

quagmire

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And we have delivery! Love how it looks in the pearl white in the sun. Overall car is in good shape. Only thing wrong was a clip on the plastic trim on the drivers seat that has the seat adjustment buttons was broken so it isn't secured to the seat itself. They didn't have the part in stock so they ordered it and will have mobile tech come out to repair it. They were going to come out anyway to install the homelink device so not that bad of an inconvenience. Will be taking to the PPF/Ceramic shop here shortly. But I love the vehicle.





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LordVic

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just came by some money. Decided it's time to replace my 2012 Camry.

not sure yet what I'm going to get. For the first time in my life I actually can afford luxury.

I really can't make up my mind. got some desires:

1. Smaller than the Camry. I don't need a larger midsize car anymore.
2. more than 200hp. I for once in my life want a car that can oomph.
3. Preferable not requiring higher quality gas. The price just skyrockets too much.
4. Automatic Transmission only (not for me, but others who do occasionally use my car)
5. AWD preferable. But FWD minimum. RWD in an area that sees enough snowfall 4+ months a year isn't really an option
6. Hatchback is a bonus (but not required, I love hot hatches)
7. Electric is a possibility if there are any that grabs my fancy. The Model 3 does not. I despise the interior and will never by a car taht requires me to use the touchscreen for driving tasks.
 
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SteveManila1960

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just came by some money. Decided it's time to replace my 2012 Camry.

not sure yet what I'm going to get. For the first time in my life I actually can afford luxury.

I really can't make up my mind. got some desires:

1. Smaller than the Camry. I don't need a larger midsize car anymore.
2. more than 200hp. I for once in my life want a car that can oomph.
3. Preferable not requiring higher quality gas. The price just skyrockets too much.
4. Automatic Transmission only (not for me, but others who do occasionally use my car)
5. AWD preferable. But FWD minimum. RWD in an area that sees enough snowfall 4+ months a year isn't really an option
6. Hatchback is a bonus (but not required, I love hot hatches)
7. Electric is a possibility if there are any that grabs my fancy. The Model 3 does not. I despise the interior and will never by a car taht requires me to use the touchscreen for driving tasks.
Screams volkswagen Golf GTI
 

bunnspecial

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just came by some money. Decided it's time to replace my 2012 Camry.

not sure yet what I'm going to get. For the first time in my life I actually can afford luxury.

I really can't make up my mind. got some desires:

1. Smaller than the Camry. I don't need a larger midsize car anymore.
2. more than 200hp. I for once in my life want a car that can oomph.
3. Preferable not requiring higher quality gas. The price just skyrockets too much.
4. Automatic Transmission only (not for me, but others who do occasionally use my car)
5. AWD preferable. But FWD minimum. RWD in an area that sees enough snowfall 4+ months a year isn't really an option
6. Hatchback is a bonus (but not required, I love hot hatches)
7. Electric is a possibility if there are any that grabs my fancy. The Model 3 does not. I despise the interior and will never by a car taht requires me to use the touchscreen for driving tasks.

What about a Subaru WRX?

It's not a hatchback, but seems to meet most of your other requirements. It packs some impressive oomph well north of 200hp, has an AT as an option, and of course IMO Subaru has the best AWD system around. They're not overly expensive either.

If you could get the current BMW 135i in the US, that might knock everything else I can think of out of the ballpark, but it seems to no longer be sold here.
 

LordVic

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What about a Subaru WRX?

It's not a hatchback, but seems to meet most of your other requirements. It packs some impressive oomph well north of 200hp, has an AT as an option, and of course IMO Subaru has the best AWD system around. They're not overly expensive either.

If you could get the current BMW 135i in the US, that might knock everything else I can think of out of the ballpark, but it seems to no longer be sold here.

I always forget about Subaru (adding it to my list)

Not in the US. in Canada, so while most of our options are similar, there are regional differences to some lineups.

it's why AWD or FWD is necessary for me.

I also don't like BMW so they are right out.
 

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Plan on getting a new car within the next 2 years.

Right now, where I live, an electric car just is not an option (It's a townhouse/apartment complex, and I've spoken with the property managers, and they're not willing to invest the effort and deal with the disruption of traffic due to construction of charging stations at this time) - so unless my property managers change their mind or we move to a house or place with a garage in the next 2-3 years, I'm stuck with a hybrid or PHEV as my best option.

I'm REALLY interested in both the Maverick and Santa Cruz. I'm leaning towards Maverick because of the standard hybrid engine, though I'm a bit disappointed with the power figures and towing (I mean, I know it's a small truck, but the ecoboost has double the towing of the hybrid).

Or maybe I'll get lucky in my job search and I could get a Ranger Tremor or F-150 Hybrid.
I totally agree, the power figures on the Maverick are kind of abysmal, but you do get the fuel efficiency, some towing capability in a midsize hauler. The Maverick is using an older platform, but in terms of a hybrid, I think this might be a really popular truck for the price point and the fuel efficiency alone. Either way, if you do opt for the Maverick, definitely get the all wheel drive version, as that would make a massive difference in weather conditions and handling.
 
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