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timerollson

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In Texas, I've found the crap drivers are the folks in the raised pick up trucks.

I drive a 2011 Audi A4. Think I've found my go to brand. Love the way it drives. Was looking at the Q3 for my next ride but the interior is disappointingly ugly.
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
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Speaking of Audis, that reminded me of something I witnessed a few years back. I was sitting at a red light at an intersection with a notoriously long delay. In the lane next to me was an Audi coupe of some sort or another(don't recall the model). There were no cars behind either of us.

The Audi presumably had a manual transmission, and the driver would periodically pop the clutch, roll back a few hundred feet, then rev the engine like mad to pull up to the line at the light. I watched him do this 3 or 4 times.

I also saw a police office coming up the road, and he pulled into the lane behind Mr. Audi. I don't think he realized the cop was there, as he pulled the "roll back" stunt again only to find his rearward progress impeded by the push bar on the front of the Police Interceptor :) . Needless to say, the officer lit him up, at which point the light changed and I pulled away laughing.

I would have loved to have heard that conversation during that traffic stop.
Not only is that stupid and dangerous, as you've just seen, that's bad on the clutch. There's no reason to do that in a manual.
 

Altemose

macrumors G3
Mar 26, 2013
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Elkton, Maryland
I watched someone rear end a police Crown Victoria in a Dodge Grand Caravan. No damage to either as they are both well built but I am sure that left a nice story to tell.
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
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I've only driven a couple of auto's myself and found myself stamping on the brake thinking it was the clutch! I trained myself to forget about my left foot but obviously remembered it again when I got back in a standard manual or I'd need a new gearbox. :p
 
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A.Goldberg

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He doesn't really have much to say about black other than using the term "the coloured", He says "Chink" quite often but not sure which race he refers to in that.
Both of these words are considered highly offensive and not socially acceptable. The latter is a pejorative that refers to Asian people. It's the equivalent to the n-word for Blacks and the k-word for Jews. I know you revere your grandfathers wisdom, I respect that, but this is one area you do not want to emulate.

Mostly Infiniti and Nissan drivers are dreadful around here.
Nissan Rogues, hands down.

Funny enough, the riced-out Civics and the terrible drivers that came with them seem few and far between these days. VW Jettas and other small hatchbacks seem to be the "riced-out" cars these days, and with the companion bad drivers.
I think what it comes down to is the cheapest cars available are often what the younger drivers drive. The younger drivers are more immature, prone engage in riskier behavior, and undeveloped life skills (like planning to be places on time and then rushing to get there). As a result, these correlations are formed. ;)
 
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Altemose

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I think what it comes down to is the cheapest cars available are often what the younger drivers drive. The younger drivers are more immature, prone engage in riskier behavior, and undeveloped life skills (like planning to be places on time and then rushing to get there). As a result, these correlations are formed. ;)

I agree! I am 17 and a lot of my friends drive Hondas and Toyotas. Due to where I live, a number of them also drive pickup trucks. I have a historic GMC Suburban I am restoring so maybe I am the odd ball.
 

MatthewLTL

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Jan 22, 2015
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Both of these words are considered highly offensive and not socially acceptable. The latter is a pejorative that refers to Asian people. It's the equivalent to the n-word for Blacks and the k-word for Jews. I know you revere your grandfathers wisdom, I respect that, but this is one area you do not want to emulate.


Nissan Rogues, hands down.


I think what it comes down to is the cheapest cars available are often what the younger drivers drive. The younger drivers are more immature, prone engage in riskier behavior, and undeveloped life skills (like planning to be places on time and then rushing to get there). As a result, these correlations are formed. ;)
What's the K word? never knew jews had a slur and my grandpa to me the it was the BLACKS that wanted to be referred to as "the colored" or "people of colour".
I agree! I am 17 and a lot of my friends drive Hondas and Toyotas. Due to where I live, a number of them also drive pickup trucks. I have a historic GMC Suburban I am restoring so maybe I am the odd ball.
You're 17?! o_O you seem WAY more mentally advanced.
 

senseless

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Apr 23, 2008
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I agree! I am 17 and a lot of my friends drive Hondas and Toyotas. Due to where I live, a number of them also drive pickup trucks. I have a historic GMC Suburban I am restoring so maybe I am the odd ball.

Elkton, MD rang a bell because of it's fireworks manufacturing history. I remember my sparklers and other fireworks with "Made In Elton MD" on them.
 

A.Goldberg

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What's the K word? never knew jews had a slur and my grandpa to me the it was the BLACKS that wanted to be referred to as "the colored" or "people of colour".

I will send you a PM to discuss this. I can't believe you just used an American English spelling of "colored", rather than "coloured"
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Anyone have any experience with the RDX?
 

MatthewLTL

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Jan 22, 2015
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Ok all, Confession time. Something I have kept my mouth closed over (to save argument and ridicule) when the Daewoo went in 2 weeks ago for the brakes to be fixed, I had the mechanic also install the 2 used tyres I got. Took the car back in last week because the tyres were losing air. He checked them over and put in new valve stems (something he DID NOT DO when installing the tyres. He charged nothing to install new stems. However, One of the tyres STILL leaks, Losing 20 psi in 24 hrs. I put the spare on and will take the wheel in for him to fix. I noticed one thing. My spare tyre is 125/70/R14 (Standard tyres are 185/60/R14) BUT here is the thing even installed, the spare tyre looks like its the size of a 12" wheel it much thinner than the standard 60 tyre. In reality it is 5% higher aspect ratio than the 185/65/R14s i had put on the front.
 

bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
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My spare tyre is 125/70/R14 (Standard tyres are 185/60/R14) BUT here is the thing even installed, the spare tyre looks like its the size of a 12" wheel it much thinner than the standard 60 tyre. In reality it is 5% higher aspect ratio than the 185/65/R14s i had put on the front.

There's your answer.

The spare tire is 125mm wide, which means that the sidewall is 87.5mm, or 3.45" high. This gives a total diameter of 20.9."

The regular tire(are you just trying to irk us by using the British spelling?) is 185mm wide, which means that the sidewall is 111mm or 4.4" tall. This gives a total diameter of 22.7."

This difference is typical of a "donut" spare.
 

MatthewLTL

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There's your answer.

The spare tire is 125mm wide, which means that the sidewall is 87.5mm, or 3.45" high. This gives a total diameter of 20.9."

The regular tire(are you just trying to irk us by using the British spelling?) is 185mm wide, which means that the sidewall is 111mm or 4.4" tall. This gives a total diameter of 22.7."

This difference is typical of a "donut" spare.
So, I assume it is also normal for the car to pull to the left? (Spare is on front right side) Due to the fact the standard tyres take 32 psi and the spare takes 60 psi?

Also, I picked up a 2nd spare tyre (donut) for the Impala. I aired up both spares to 61psi yeaterday. I noticed (just by visual appearance) that the second spare is of a smaller diameter of the donut that cam with the car. I did not look at the size but I know the Impala's spare is a R16 by differences this other spare looks like an R14 they told me it came from a GM which is why i bought it. When it comes down to it, Will a 14" spare used on a car with 16" wheel size, hurt the car if it were used?
 

bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
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So, I assume it is also normal for the car to pull to the left? (Spare is on front right side) Due to the fact the standard tyres take 32 psi and the spare takes 60 psi?

Your left(normal size) tire has a larger circumference than the donut. Therefore, for each rotation of the wheel, it travels a greater linear distance. Pulling to the side toward the larger diameter tire is to be expected.
 

Altemose

macrumors G3
Mar 26, 2013
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Elkton, Maryland
Elkton, MD rang a bell because of it's fireworks manufacturing history. I remember my sparklers and other fireworks with "Made In Elton MD" on them.

Back in the 1920s and 1930s, marriage laws began to become more stringent and Maryland was slow to pass the laws. Since we are right on the MD, DE, and PA border as well as being close to NY and NJ, people would run to Elkton to get married quickly. They then passed a 48 hour waiting period law and Las Vegas became the place to get married quickly. You would be surprised that Elkton was known for quick marriage and apparently fireworks.

@MatthewLTL Donut spares are designed to be smaller and for use only for a limited time. Driving with a donut can cause damage to the differential if usage is prolonged.
 

MatthewLTL

macrumors 68000
Jan 22, 2015
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@MatthewLTL Donut spares are designed to be smaller and for use only for a limited time. Driving with a donut can cause damage to the differential if usage is prolonged.
Probably stupid question but i know I ain't the only one to mention it, What if one were to buy 3 donut rims, have regular tyres mounted on the donut rims and use the donut wheels as regular wheels? The point of that question being asked by other people was that "thinner" tyres improve gas mileage. People answering such questions had a magnitude of answers. Some were, that donut rims are not constructed to be designed for use as a normal rim, some where that using donut tyres would make handeling more difficult. What's everyone else's take on that?
 

bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
8,352
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Kentucky
The bottom line-for both handling and longevity reasons-stick with the suggested tire type for your vehicle, or at least something very close to it(i.e. my car calls for a 235/50/17 and some folks sub a 245/45/17 so that they have access to a better selection of tires).

I'd be scared of what having four narrow donuts would do to the handling especially in less than optimum conditions.

I've also never seen a donut with any significant amount of tread on it-the ones I've seen-even new with the "hairs" still on them-have less than the minimum suggested "safe" tread depth.

As for putting regular tires on donut rims-I'd hate to think what squeezing a 185mm wide tire on a rim designed for 125mm tires would do to them. You can usually go 20mm or so wider or narrower on a rim, but that's about the extent of that.

Running on narrow tires makes me think of a British Sports car, but even a quick internet search says that the tire specified for an MGB is 155/70/14.
 

Altemose

macrumors G3
Mar 26, 2013
9,189
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Elkton, Maryland
@MatthewLTL The more tire you have in contact with the ground the better it is likely to handle in situations where you need traction or sharp handling. I have driven both a shuttle bus and a school bus through mud and the school bus easily got through it due to its wider presence on the ground (big tires) and weight. The shuttle spun its wheels as there was less weight and a whole lot less tire touching the ground. I know you are talking of a hypothetical situation, but it would make quite a difference that becomes apparent the minute the traction is compromised.
 
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MatthewLTL

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The bottom line-for both handling and longevity reasons-stick with the suggested tire type for your vehicle, or at least something very close to it(i.e. my car calls for a 235/50/17 and some folks sub a 245/45/17 so that they have access to a better selection of tires).

I'd be scared of what having four narrow donuts would do to the handling especially in less than optimum conditions.

I've also never seen a donut with any significant amount of tread on it-the ones I've seen-even new with the "hairs" still on them-have less than the minimum suggested "safe" tread depth.

As for putting regular tires on donut rims-I'd hate to think what squeezing a 185mm wide tire on a rim designed for 125mm tires would do to them. You can usually go 20mm or so wider or narrower on a rim, but that's about the extent of that.

Running on narrow tires makes me think of a British Sports car, but even a quick internet search says that the tire specified for an MGB is 155/70/14.
I meant putting a regular 125/95/R14 on (95 to make up the height difference) on to a Donut rim. Alos why are Donut spares 60 PSI? you would think being that much would blow the spare up (its smaller).

So me using 185/65/R14s on a car made and designed for 185/60/R14s wont harm anything? The Impala uses 225/60/R16s would 235/60/R16s be a wise (or safe) idea?
 

bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
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I meant putting a regular 125/95/R14 on (95 to make up the height difference) on to a Donut rim. Alos why are Donut spares 60 PSI? you would think being that much would blow the spare up (its smaller).

So me using 185/65/R14s on a car made and designed for 185/60/R14s wont harm anything? The Impala uses 225/60/R16s would 235/60/R16s be a wise (or safe) idea?

If you want to go to a 65 series tire vs a 60 series, you should use something narrower. The taller 65% tire(of the same width) will definitely throw off your speedometer, and may cause problems with wheel well clearance-especially if you load the car down or hit a bump a little too hard. 185 is already a narrow enough tire that if it were mine I'd stick with the rated tire size(that's what I do as a general rule).

The 225/60 is going to be smaller in diameter than the 235/60-again this will throw off your speedometer. A 225/65 might get you closer-you'd have to do the math(I've been crunching numbers all day and am feeling lazy). I'd worry less about this than putting a narrower tire on the Daewoo.

As for your 125/95 idea-I don't know when the last time I saw an auto tire anywhere close to 95%. 70% is about the tallest sidewall you can typically find anymore.

Without actually researching it, I've always suspected that the higher pressure of donuts has to do with their generally flimsier construction than your typical steel-belted radial tire that almost universal now. The extra inflation pressure gives them some more rigidity that wouldn't otherwise be present. All of the bicycles I've had have generally had inflation pressures somewhere around 65psi also.
 

MatthewLTL

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Jan 22, 2015
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If you want to go to a 65 series tire vs a 60 series, you should use something narrower. The taller 65% tire(of the same width) will definitely throw off your speedometer, and may cause problems with wheel well clearance-especially if you load the car down or hit a bump a little too hard. 185 is already a narrow enough tire that if it were mine I'd stick with the rated tire size(that's what I do as a general rule).

The 225/60 is going to be smaller in diameter than the 235/60-again this will throw off your speedometer. A 225/65 might get you closer-you'd have to do the math(I've been crunching numbers all day and am feeling lazy). I'd worry less about this than putting a narrower tire on the Daewoo.

As for your 125/95 idea-I don't know when the last time I saw an auto tire anywhere close to 95%. 70% is about the tallest sidewall you can typically find anymore.

Without actually researching it, I've always suspected that the higher pressure of donuts has to do with their generally flimsier construction than your typical steel-belted radial tire that almost universal now. The extra inflation pressure gives them some more rigidity that wouldn't otherwise be present. All of the bicycles I've had have generally had inflation pressures somewhere around 65psi also.
having 65 tyres on the daewoo actually improves the speedometer
 

A.Goldberg

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Probably stupid question but i know I ain't the only one to mention it, What if one were to buy 3 donut rims, have regular tyres mounted on the donut rims and use the donut wheels as regular wheels? The point of that question being asked by other people was that "thinner" tyres improve gas mileage. People answering such questions had a magnitude of answers. Some were, that donut rims are not constructed to be designed for use as a normal rim, some where that using donut tyres would make handeling more difficult. What's everyone else's take on that?
Terrible idea, besides the cost of 3 donuts would cost 3x as much as getting 1 new tire. And if donuts did increase mpg, it'd never be worth the money spent on rims to save money on gas (not considering faster tire wear and the fact you only drive 2k miles a year).

I've always been under the impression that you are not to exceed 50mph with a donut (I suspect part of this has to do with the differences in tire sizes between the wheels, amongst other things including safety). Additionally, I've always heard never drive more than X amount of miles (35-50?) with a donut.

What do you want to know?

My brother used to have one.
My friend is looking to buy a 2013 or 2014 model. Seems like a decent car, but has a few shortcomings. No rear vents, crappy CRV xfer case, not exactly amazing interior, etc. I've seen one up close but haven't driven one. I read Acura might be having with their new shock absorbers in 2013-present RDX, ILX, and I think RLX (maybe others too). I guess it's rattling noises, a harsh ride, and premature failure (replacements at 6-8k miles!). No solution offered by Acura/Honda yet despite 2-3 years of issues now. There's many concentrated complaints about this issue, but it doesn't appear overwhelming. I'm not sure what to make of it.
 

bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
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Is the Lexus rx 350 suv is good car ? Thank you

They've never appealed to me personally, but I've known a BUNCH of people with them and they've all loved them. They're very popular around here.

If by "good car" you mean reliability-it's a Toyota underneath and that's pretty much all that needs to be said about it. Take care of it and it will take care of you.

If you're looking for an SUV in that size class, I don't think you can go wrong with one.
 
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