Whats worse is people trying to sweep this issue under the carpet.iOS 9 runs like crap compared to 8.4.1 and this when Apple EXPLICITLY says it should run better.This is a important issue which needs fixing.If you dont like these threads just dont click on them.Simple.
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The difference between LAG & STUTTER and why it matters!
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What's worse is being called liar or idiot (not In so many words) because your phone performs differently than other. iOS 9 seems to run better on some devices than others. But you are clearly making sure nothing is swept under the rug.
I havent till now, both in real life and online yet, to see concrete proof that iOS 9 actually beats 8.4.1 on performance in majority areas while there is a **** ton of evidence as to the contrary.I challenge anyone to show me benchmarks,visual evidence that I am wrongWhat's worse is being called liar or idiot (not In so many words) because your phone performs differently than other. iOS 9 seems to run better on some devices than others. But you are clearly making sure nothing is swept under the rug.
It's not worth the effort at least for me, this is a discussion forum, not a court of law. Do you want me to upload a video of my 6s not stuttery?
Agreed. I don't understand how they can claim something is better, when it's actually worse. Did they test this stuff or did they just tell the marketing team to have fun with some buzz words and then worry about delivering after.
We know Apple didn't live up to their marketing promise (at least not so far, and at least not in the eyes of everyone). Doesn't seem like any kinds of sweeping or hiding of anything is really happening anywhere at all given that most people aren't finding these types of issues of much concern and don't see iOS 9 running like crap for them.
It's not really surprising that marketing paints things and sets expectations better than what they really are--happens pretty much with any product or service, and has bene happening for ages. It's also not surprising that initial releases of a new iOS version (or most other software) often have issues of one type or another, and often things get better and become quite good even in the latter updates (as has been the case with iOS 8 and iOS 7, to use very apt recent examples).
Not sure if rehashing same things that have multiple long threads saying the same exact things already helps anyone with anything, but it seems people like to have the same discussion over and over, even if it doesn't lead to anything new or different than the previous multiple ones.
It's not really surprising that marketing paints things and sets expectations better than what they really are--happens pretty much with any product or service, and has bene happening for ages. It's also not surprising that initial releases of a new iOS version (or most other software) often have issues of one type or another, and often things get better and become quite good even in the latter updates (as has been the case with iOS 8 and iOS 7, to use very apt recent examples).
Not sure if rehashing same things that have multiple long threads saying the same exact things already helps anyone with anything, but it seems people like to have the same discussion over and over, even if it doesn't lead to anything new or different than the previous multiple ones.
I'm not saying iOS 9 is running like crap, but in 99% of the OS, it performs WORSE than iOS 8 which is not what they CLAIMED when advertising iOS 9. What don't you understand about that?
How can they advertise that it's going to perform BETTER when running on Metal, when it actually does the opposite.
The fact that some people don't notice or care is irrelevant to the situation. Maybe they're the same people who can't see screen tearing in video games or those that aren't bothered by a widely variable frame rate… or even notice a variable frame rate.
I'm pretty sure I addressed that in my reply. The advertised what they were shooting for and what they want it to be like and what they want people to perceive it as, as most advertising goes, given that many things don't live up to what they are advertised like. No one says that's good or right, but it's the reality of advertising. Repeatedly saying that in thread after thread isn't going to change any of that or do anything. Yes, we get it, no, it's not good, but, unfortunately, it's not really new or unusual.
And as for performance, again, there have bene plenty people referencing to it being "crap", "garbage", "unusable", and all kinds of other extreme absolutes--and while they might personally think that, it doesn't make it that way for the vast majority. Even if things perform worse as far as animations go, for most people that's not something that creates a bad experience for them--it doesn't mean that there aren't issues or that they shouldn't be dealt with, just that they aren't as bad as quite a few make them out to be, and certainly not for most people. Certainly at the very least in the context of "why isn't this a bigger deal" or "why isn't Apple doing some sort of a public apology and rolling out some huge quick fix for it all" it's certainly quite relevant.
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1% of the time iOS 9 performs better? Hyperbole for sure. I disagree.
Yup, hyperbole, extremes, absolutes, and all those types of things are some of the main things that get in the way more than anything else when it comes to discussions.
The 1% is where they fixed the status bar resizing issue from iOS 8 where it would suddenly resize itself after unlocking the phone.
Don't understand why you guys still debating this.
iOS 9 in fact slower than iOS 8 counterpart. Don't believe me? Xcode can analyze your device frame rate. There's no single scenario that iOS 9 perform better.
"My device is way smoother than iOS 8, you guys who complains about iOS 9 have no life!". Then it's good for you. Just live in denial your device perform better.
Satisfied with performance is subjective. Frame rate analysis is objective.
If you satisfied with your device performance, then that's good! I'm happy for you. But attacking people who says iOS 9 slower is stupid. There's clearly a data, and you decide to ignore it.
It's been liberating for me to leave this forum for weeks. The debate is a never ending process between group of believers vs objective people.
Please, for your well being, reserve your energy for something else than arguing with these believer.
iOS 9 in fact slower than iOS 8 counterpart. Don't believe me? Xcode can analyze your device frame rate. There's no single scenario that iOS 9 perform better.
"My device is way smoother than iOS 8, you guys who complains about iOS 9 have no life!". Then it's good for you. Just live in denial your device perform better.
Satisfied with performance is subjective. Frame rate analysis is objective.
If you satisfied with your device performance, then that's good! I'm happy for you. But attacking people who says iOS 9 slower is stupid. There's clearly a data, and you decide to ignore it.
It's been liberating for me to leave this forum for weeks. The debate is a never ending process between group of believers vs objective people.
Please, for your well being, reserve your energy for something else than arguing with these believer.
Faster? Fast enough for me. It gets the job done real well.
But more importantly, much more stable than 8 ever was in my case. You base everything on fluidity. I do not. I use my devices. I do not have time to eyeball every single animation. I'm extremely pleased with 9.2 and to be truthful, that's how I judge iOS 9.
Multitasking is faster on some devices. Same with CC and NC.
You're confusing lag and stutter.
I'd show on my device a smooth and fast CC and NC, but I'm using a 6S+ as my phone and an Air 2 as my tablet. I'd hope it was smooth and fast. I reset my 6+ so I can sell it.
Haven't we covered this exact thing multiple times in multiple threads. What's the point of covering it again only to cover it again all over when the next thread about the same exact thing comes up next week?
Yes please. 60 fps only.
1. Pull up notification center.
2. Tap on activate Air drop.
That would be enough.
We are not even asking you to do this on old devices like 5s or 6. Do it on 6S.
Thank you.
The apologists are out in full force today!
@I7guy You should also post video next year. When your device is on iOS 10
But still yeah... Waiting for your 60 fps video.
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So you agree its not faster which is my point.If we are arguing "fast enough" even the 5S fits the bill.But "fast enough" is not enough for a year old flagship
Yes, agree with you that this have been covered multiple times. It's redundant to discuss this further.
...then why you still advocate that your device is "smooth" and reply peoples who says iOS 9 is "slow"? Practice what you preach.
I don't even use the word "stutter" and "lag" on my post above. iOS 9 brings stutter and lag that wasn't there on iOS 8. For example, mini 2 stutters on several areas (app switcher, etc) and lags while playing some game (Crossy Road, etc).
The point is, we don't need to discuss it further. The stutter and lag is real. The next actionable step is to send bug report for Apple to to fix this.
I see the moaners are out in full force today.....
Wait, I just saw a 0.01 second lag on my phone.. Oh no what will we do now?
Wait, I just saw a 0.01 second lag on my phone.. Oh no what will we do now?
It's the "squeaky wheel gets the grease " idiom in full affect here. No one knows how much Apple takes into consideration the sentiment of the users on the public forums. And the more people that see the complaints, maybe more will send the feedback to Apple.