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Spoilers The Doctor Who Thread
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I really want to see what's up those stairs . . .
I quite like it, it looks bigger than the old one.
I quite like it, it looks bigger than the old one.
Started out a bit rough, but ultimately liked it by the end. Guess new show runner means new everything. I knew about the new Tardis, sonic screwdriver, title opening and logo. But new music! The Doctor's lonely man theme appears to be gone and in it's place is something far more heroic. Seems like he no longer has the weight of the universe on his shoulders. Did notice the Silence in the Library theme towards the end though.
But are there ducks in the pond?
EDIT: By the way, here's that new console room...
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Gawsh that sure is a perrty Tardis inside--I cannot wait to see it on BBC America I been watching some of the teasers during our DVRs of top gear--maybe he reconstructed his zero room? I always wanted to build a house with a zero room
whatever any of you limey mother****ers do don't spoil it for us American viewers who have to wait three weeks please LOL
Same goes for you Sheep lovin Aussies
Same goes for you Sheep lovin Aussies
But are there ducks in the pond?
No Ducks No Pond
they put a temporary one in
What it usually looks like.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+cathedral+green,+cardiff+wales&sll=51.495215,-3.219069&sspn=0.002692,0.006314&gl=uk&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=The+Cathedral+Green,+Llandaff,+Cardiff+CF5+2,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.49528,-3.2192&spn=0.000335,0.000789&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=51.49528,-3.2192&panoid=19pGp1zS3RPcVub65uLBWQ&cbp=12,164.76,,0,-6.16
whatever any of you limey mother****ers do don't spoil it for us American viewers who have to wait three weeks please LOL
Same goes for you Sheep lovin Aussies
Erm, the Kiwis love sheep. We Aussies are alcoholics.
Why don't you have it yet? Torrents not working?
For me, the most exciting part of the episode was when Amy performed her kiss-a-gram routine to distract the Kandyman...
torrents download too slow sadly or I would be watching the doctor on my laptop like i watch flash foreward but those peckerheads running the BBC in the UK block the olfficial site
First episode inherited a lot of the old rubbish, like Murray Gold and some dumb hacking, also that "hip" BBC1 hyperactivity. On the other hand, Moffat is blatantly superior with dialogue and his pacing makes the RTD signature set-piece look obsolete as well as crude.
On its own I would say the episode is only a minor improvement; it's more evolution than revolution (e.g. the console room and the titles sequence), but it takes a lot to change a show's genetic code. Robot, The Twin Dilemma, and Time and the Rani were all era-openers that looked more like their predecessors' than something new.
I may be deluding myself into thinking that Moffat has a radically different vision for its future... but it would be hard for me to reconcile Moffat, who I think is the smartest writer in Television, with one of its most flawed shows forever.
On its own I would say the episode is only a minor improvement; it's more evolution than revolution (e.g. the console room and the titles sequence), but it takes a lot to change a show's genetic code. Robot, The Twin Dilemma, and Time and the Rani were all era-openers that looked more like their predecessors' than something new.
I may be deluding myself into thinking that Moffat has a radically different vision for its future... but it would be hard for me to reconcile Moffat, who I think is the smartest writer in Television, with one of its most flawed shows forever.
So what did we think of episode 2 then?
no where near as good as last week
There were some nice ideas in the story (although i can think of several scfi film and tv show that have use similar plots) but it didn't really hang together. The starship UK didn't really work for me everything seemed a bit cheap (maybe some sort of meta joke?) and the Smilers where never really explained
loved "I'm the Bloody Queen" though
WWII pepper-pots next week should be laugh
no where near as good as last week
There were some nice ideas in the story (although i can think of several scfi film and tv show that have use similar plots) but it didn't really hang together. The starship UK didn't really work for me everything seemed a bit cheap (maybe some sort of meta joke?) and the Smilers where never really explained
loved "I'm the Bloody Queen"
thoughWWII pepper-pots next week should be laugh
Really? I thought this was much, much, much better than last week's episode! I felt that this episode, unlike the previous one, did not really miss David Tennant. I felt that Matt Smith now has gotten more 'comfortable' in the role of the Doctor and is starting to be more independent of DT. I also loved the development of the relationship between Amy and The Doctor, it's interesting to see the 'dynamic' between them develop and play out. While MS and Amy were terrific, I think the show was stolen by the Queen! I also loved her sass, and that was something that was really lacking in the previous episode.
In addition, I think the subtle introduction of politics into the story (the entrapment and use of animals, the Public just forgetting the information told to them) was interesting, creative, very different and to boot risky, but I think that they pulled it off. It added a completely new dimension to the story, which we haven't seen recently, at least in RTD's time. All in all, I really enjoyed this new dimension, and new take on Doctor Who and I think that MS is shaping up to be a terrific Doctor, and I think the real question posed in this new episode is, what do you think about the subtle introduction of politics into Doctor Who? Do you think it is taking out the enjoyment of Doctor Who, do you think it will damage Doctor Who, in the short and long term?
King Mook Mook
I thought it wasn't as good overall, very RTD-like with the giant space whale. I thought Matt Smith was a lot weaker too. The writing is brilliant though and I adore the horror elements that are becoming commonplace in this series.
Next weeks looks superb!
Next weeks looks superb!
I enjoyed the show while I was watching it, although not so much the ending (problem that happens a lot in DW, big build up, super easy solution emerges from nowhere)
But there were a lot of holes and niggles and things in the episode. I'm too lazy to go through it all but person that does, I'll agree with you
Shame that the Smilers were basically developed as a scary face for the trailer then never really used/explained. I thought it started off good, then fell apart the longer it went on. The dialogue is a whole lot more sparkly and fun than it normally is though so it's still ridiculously enjoyable despite the weak plot.
Also there's a lot of similarities recently - LOTR films style giant eyeball last week, world resting on a space whale this week (hello Discworld)
But there were a lot of holes and niggles and things in the episode. I'm too lazy to go through it all but person that does, I'll agree with you
Shame that the Smilers were basically developed as a scary face for the trailer then never really used/explained. I thought it started off good, then fell apart the longer it went on. The dialogue is a whole lot more sparkly and fun than it normally is though so it's still ridiculously enjoyable despite the weak plot.
Also there's a lot of similarities recently - LOTR films style giant eyeball last week, world resting on a space whale this week (hello Discworld)
So where were all the feeding and vomit tubes on the special-effects space whale we saw at the end? Looked like its face was open to the void and completely tube free round the mouth area.
BTW, the shape of Starship UK did make you think there ought to have been a turtle under there. I wonder if they changed the original "beast below" after running it past the copyright lawyers...
BTW, the shape of Starship UK did make you think there ought to have been a turtle under there. I wonder if they changed the original "beast below" after running it past the copyright lawyers...
I wouldn't go quite that far, since last week was pretty good, but I'd have to really reach to find anything to complain about with this week, so I won't bother to try. The Beast Below had more of a "proper" story to it though, since all the regeneration stuff is out of the way.
It's nothing new...The Sun Makers back in the 70s comes to mind, among others. Also it wasn't that subtle.
Actually the ending was carefully and strategically built up to from right near the very beginning. It was pretty much a textbook example of exactly how to do that sort of thing, and was quite satisfying.
--Eric
Yeah the groundwork for the big reveal was laid out all the way through but "a passing space whale felt the urge to save us and no one has to die because it's so kind!" was a pretty unsatisfying resolution for me.
The first 20 minutes were great though.