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MacNut

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Well none of us are arguing that film is more popular than digital. But some of us are saying it is making a comeback.

I researched film cameras for a couple of years before buying one, and while mine is a relatively inexpensive model out there, I still paid anywhere between $75-100 more last month than I would have if I'd bought it a couple of years ago when I first considered getting one. New film cameras are rare, so the film people are buying used cameras. But of course finding a well maintained film camera is also hard to do, so the price on them just keeps appreciating.
Looking on B&H I was amazed of the amount of film still being sold.
 

MacNut

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exactly. film is not dead. smaller market share, sure. but not dead. and slowly growing.

no, i don't expect it ever to overtake digital....but it is not dead. there is a real market for it.
I think there will always be a small amount of photographers who will refuse to go digital.
 

jwolf6589

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exactly. film is not dead. smaller market share, sure. but not dead. and slowly growing.

no, i don't expect it ever to overtake digital....but it is not dead. there is a real market for it.
Are floppy disks still alive?
 

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Does it bother you that film isn't actually dead yet? Just because other technologies have come and gone doesn't mean this one has.
Just because I can't take a roll of film down to Walgreens and get it developed doesn't mean I can't get it developed.

Film will always have a nostalgia that other technologies don't. The same goes for Vinyl.
 
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mollyc

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Just because I can't take a roll of film down to Walgreens and get it developed doesn't mean I can't get it developed.

Film will always have a nostalgia that other technologies don't. The same goes for Vinyl.
My local CVS does still develop film, but they send it out and it's a several week turnaround. I have a couple of local camera stores where I can take film to be developed in house.
 
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My local CVS does still develop film, but they send it out and it's a several week turnaround. I have a couple of local camera stores where I can take film to be developed in house.
I no longer see cassette and video tapes being sold in stores. I bet they are still alive.
 
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mollyc

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I no longer see cassette and video tapes being sold in stores. I bet they are still alive.
I can still buy film.

In fact I am going to the camera store this afternoon to pick up my daughter's developed rolls and am going to buy some more film. Today.

Just because you don't want to use it doesn't mean it has stopped existing or that other people care about it.

It would be really great if you could open your mind a bit to things you don't know about.
 

jwolf6589

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I can still buy film.

In fact I am going to the camera store this afternoon to pick up my daughter's developed rolls and am going to buy some more film. Today.

Just because you don't want to use it doesn't mean it has stopped existing or that other people care about it.

It would be really great if you could open your mind a bit to things you don't know about.
I can get tapes online. Is there anyone that still uses them over SD cards?
 

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Many 'Hollywood' productions are still shot on film (Kodak color negative stock). Here are a few:
There is a quality to motion pictures shot on film that is creatively different than digital video, and still is the choice for many directors and producers.
 

kenoh

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PEOPLE STILL SHOOT FILM
And they will spend millions on a copy of a digital file that has been added to a blockchain - that will be destroyed the moment criminals get access to a quantum computer. People shoot film because it has a quality yet to be equalled by digital - not necessarily in precise reproduction of the scene, but in embracing the flaws and the limitations to produce something unique. Something that once the negative is destroyed, wont be produced again.

I find a kind of romanticism in that no?
 

bsamcash

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Different situation completely. Disposable media vs analog/digital. However, as bizarre as this may be, yes, I know of at least two scenarios at work where the use of a 3.5” floppy disk is still “the way it is done” for security reasons.
I still use minidisc, if anyone remembers that short-lived format.
 

kenoh

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I still use minidisc, if anyone remembers that short-lived format.
Oh yes… especially my friend showing me his new one. Literally in the cab on the way from the Sony store, gets out the cab, drops it without realising and the cab rolled over it…. Oops….

Loved the Minidisc. Was the first format I could take decent tunes on trips with me. Started with an MZ-R30 then got the whizzy MZ-N1 which IIRC did the minidisc long format whereby you could get two albums on a disk.
 

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Wasn’t it magneto-optical? Used a laser to heat individual bit locations to the Curie temperature as that made the polarity flip flop (IIRC) as a way of imprinting the binary bits on the optical side, then used magneto for seeking and head alignment? I think… sure I remember that wrong
 
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bsamcash

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Wasn’t it magneto-optical? Used a laser to heat individual bit locations to the Curie temperature as that made the polarity flip flop (IIRC) as a way of imprinting the binary bits on the optical side, then used magneto for seeking and head alignment? I think… sure I remember that wrong
Someone has done their homework.
 
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