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airfrancisco

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Mar 16, 2005
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Here we go. I took photos to compare the connectors, the width and use both M/L BSB against the length of the FLL and both the attachments but to show more contrast I did it with the WSB instead. I hope it's what you need.

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And the M/L band length compared to the long leather loop.
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Looks like I can fit that just barely. I'm at 3rd to last hole in M/L sports band. I need extra room for the magnetic to stay on right?
 

lg251

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Dec 3, 2009
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Nice! I got mine in the mail on Saturday. I tried it with the standard Apple type adapters and the link that attaches to it has notches in the backside (for the tools to pull the spring rod back?) that seem to lockup the last link and keep it from freely moving inside the adapter. So, I've ordered the spring rod adapter from freedom clock guy on eBay.

I also needed the tool kit for removing some links.

I agree, it's a beautiful band and HEAVY!

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It sure would be really, really cool if ANDROID released a link for the band that would serve as the adapter to slide into the watch! Wouldn't it be nice to pay $20 for two links that matched your watch perfectly AND slid into the apple watch and blended with it???

(I may have to write ANDROID and make a suggestion.)

Am I the only one who saw this? Ring color is not white on the Simple face? The Seconds Hand is green, but the outer ring is blue!? I can only modify the Seconds Hand color on this face...Did I just become color blind? o_O
 
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Ridder

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May 25, 2013
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Ordered a black Hoco SS band for my SG Sport 42mm, and got it last week, but the color is not right:

(description on Amazon:
Biaoge Stainless Steel Swiss Made Wristband For Apple Watch 42mm Apple Watch Band


Don't know what part of the band is swiss made (for what it's worth) but I guess nothing....as long as it sells you can put anything in the description on Amazon....
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The seller Biao Ge (on Amazon) changed black into tarnish in the main description later but before ordering you first have to make a choice what size and color: I chose black 42mm.....there was no tarnish option.
Some people get a proper black band, others, like me, get a tarnish band.....
Contacted the seller and he wants me to return it for a refund....minus return shipping of course .....
I have ordered another similar band on Aliexpress.....let's see what I get.

I also got a Baseus milanese band (not really, but with a clasp) for the wife:

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Not bad for the $$
 
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CarlJ

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Feb 23, 2004
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Hey everyone. I just made myself a account since the Apple Watch just released i Sweden.

Im looking for a third party Leather Milanese Loop and need your expertise because its a jungle out there

did anyone try any of this bands or can point me in the right direction of one whit good quality?
Welcome h4mmar,
Several points: the Milanese band is the Apple band made of fine steel mesh. The "Leather Loop" (often abbreviated "LL" in here) is what you seek, given the links you posted; it's a sort of "quilted" leather band that folds over on itself and adheres with magnets (I have one of the real Apple ones and can attest to it being really nice). There are, indeed, a huge number of listings on eBay, and its very hard to tell who is selling which bands (for all we know, they may all come from one factory).

I cannot vouch for either of the two sellers you linked to, haven't heard of them before. One seller that folks have been having very good luck with is "freedomoclock09" (often called "Utica Guy" in here, because he ships from Utica, in the U.S.A. - this is helpful to the largely American crowd in here because it means much faster delivery to us than those shipping direct from China; obviously, for you in Sweden, the situation is a bit different).

I highly recommend clicking back perhaps half a dozen pages in this thread and reading through. People are posting their experiences with different sellers, and pictures of the straps and adapters they've received. We don't really have a summary available (other than "Utica Guy is pretty reliable"), but the details are here for anyone to read. You might also try doing a search on the thread for the names of the sellers you found, to see if anyone has tried them.
Welcome aboard!
 

CarlJ

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Feb 23, 2004
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Does anyone know the difference between the leather loop bands on the "Utica Guy's" ebay page? Looks like they are the same bands, just different prices and descriptions. Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
I can't say in this case, as I haven't looked at them all, but it's not uncommon for high volume eBay sellers to have multiple overlapping listings for the same items. This can be because they expire/end at different times, or because they wanted to get different search terms into the title. Ordered some 42mm gray spring bar adapters from Utica Guy last week, and there were at least 4 or 5 different listings that covered them, some specifically for gray, some where you could choose which color, some specifically 42mm, some with a choice between 38mm and 42mm. I narrowed it down to two and then flipped a coin. You might also take note of the expected delivery dates, they may differ. I suspect sometimes a listing covers a specific incoming/arrived batch of parts.
 
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toph2toast

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I can't say in this case, as I haven't looked at them all, but it's not uncommon for high volume eBay sellers to have multiple overlapping listings for the same items. This can be because they expire/end at different times, or because they wanted to get different search terms into the title. Ordered some 42mm gray spring bar adapters from Utica Guy last week, and there were at least 4 or 5 different listings that covered them, some specifically for gray, some where you could choose which color, some specifically 42mm, some with a choice between 38mm and 42mm. I narrowed it down to two and then flipped a coin. You might also take note of the expected delivery dates, they may differ. I suspect sometimes a listing covers a specific incoming/arrived batch of parts.

Thanks for the reply! I'm not a frequent eBay user to due PayPal issues in the past, so I'm not "in-the-know" on this stuff. Much appreciated.
 

toddsby

macrumors newbie
Jun 8, 2015
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Dallas
Well. I got my Hoco 5 pointers bracelet today and it's fantastic! Adds a certain je ne sais quoi to the watch. I'm very impressed with it. It's heavy but not too heavy to feel the extreme weight on my wrist and makes the watch more elegant.
I won't deny I was hesitant in to buying it because some here think that is too masculine for a woman but there again, this girly girl has a tomboy inside her and I'm gonna rock this.
I've already got some 20 people on FB asking where to get one and how I like it.
Some are even asking for a review on it since I haven't made one in a while but if you've got a link for a review I can share with them, please hook me up since I stopped making video reviews a while ago so I rather spread other reviewers good stuff.

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Also I received my Red Leather Loop from Aliexpress seller Sea Daughter and the bracelet is great. Went on a long hike today and I was keeping an eye on, if it ever became lose or if the connector part at the tip of the adapter would become uneven protruding out of the insertion part of the watch, but nada. Walla Ishi. Niente!

In another words, it held up pretty well and the entire time I wore it, I stayed tight and it didn't become lose at all having very strong magnets much as the original Apple LL original version.
My neighbor brought his so I was able to compare both LLs and the only difference thus far was the color.
These is it.
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What do you guys think?
Digging that red leather loop!! If a U.S. seller starts carrying them I'm definitely picking one up.
 
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laurenashley

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Jun 24, 2013
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Am I the only one who saw this? Ring color is not white on the Simple face? The Seconds Hand is green, but the outer ring is blue!? I can only modify the Seconds Hand color on this face...Did I just become color blind? o_O
I think it's just weird lighting. I've noticed that the grey has looked blue in some pictures too.
 

mypyh4ooo

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Oct 28, 2013
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Can anyone recommend any decent UK sellers for the leather loop please ? Had one send some photos through .... Just awful fit.
 

iBighouse

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Mar 11, 2012
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Got my Black Forest band from Etsy! Very nice detailing and quality. The adapters fit perfectly! (Though they catch some black reflection and don't look tight in the attached photo.)

In addition to the band, they threw in a second watch keeper with the swiss "+" on it- and I asked for only a plain keeper without the extra symbol! AND...they threw in a second band replacement for the non-buckle side that contained even more detail stitching at the tongue end.

I have to say, the customer service from Andreas Truong (who posts in this forum) was exemplary! I asked to have the watchband made without the adapters as I had recently purchased them separately. He went so far as to make a special listing on their website for me at a slightly discounted price from the standard band price. That's great customer service! And, here's the bonus part...my band arrived WITH SS adapters installed!

Kudos to Black Forest and Andreas Truong. You've got a returning customer for sure here. If this is typical from Black Forest Atelier, I can only highly recommend them for their product quality AND customer service.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/BlackForestAtelier?ref=shop_sugg

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Javabird

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Apr 27, 2015
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Got my Black Forest band from Etsy! Very nice detailing and quality. The adapters fit perfectly! (Though they catch some black reflection and don't look tight in the attached photo.)

In addition to the band, they threw in a second watch keeper with the swiss "+" on it- and I asked for only a plain keeper without the extra symbol! AND...they threw in a second band replacement for the non-buckle side that contained even more detail stitching at the tongue end.

I have to say, the customer service from Andreas Truong (who posts in this forum) was exemplary! I asked to have the watchband made without the adapters as I had recently purchased them separately. He went so far as to make a special listing on their website for me at a slightly discounted price from the standard band price. That's great customer service! And, here's the bonus part...my band arrived WITH SS adapters installed!

Kudos to Black Forest and Andreas Truong. You've got a returning customer for sure here. If this is typical from Black Forest Atelier, I can only highly recommend them for their product quality AND customer service.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/BlackForestAtelier?ref=shop_sugg

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His bands look very nice. Do the bands include a buckle or do you need to order that separately. (One of the reviewers's comments indicated they don't include a buckle but that may have been just for that band.)
 

soya

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Jul 30, 2010
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Got my Black Forest band from Etsy! Very nice detailing and quality. The adapters fit perfectly! (Though they catch some black reflection and don't look tight in the attached photo.)

In addition to the band, they threw in a second watch keeper with the swiss "+" on it- and I asked for only a plain keeper without the extra symbol! AND...they threw in a second band replacement for the non-buckle side that contained even more detail stitching at the tongue end.

I have to say, the customer service from Andreas Truong (who posts in this forum) was exemplary! I asked to have the watchband made without the adapters as I had recently purchased them separately. He went so far as to make a special listing on their website for me at a slightly discounted price from the standard band price. That's great customer service! And, here's the bonus part...my band arrived WITH SS adapters installed!

Kudos to Black Forest and Andreas Truong. You've got a returning customer for sure here. If this is typical from Black Forest Atelier, I can only highly recommend them for their product quality AND customer service.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/BlackForestAtelier?ref=shop_sugg

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How many days did it take to receive the band?
 

iBighouse

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Mar 11, 2012
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His bands look very nice. Do the bands include a buckle or do you need to order that separately. (One of the reviewers's comments indicated they don't include a buckle but that may have been just for that band.)

Yes, his bands include a buckle. And, he made sure that I got a polished stainless steel buckle to match the watch. It's SLIGHTLY brushed, but looks quite nice.
The leather is surprisingly soft and subtle for being so thick.
 
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ianfann

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Oct 12, 2014
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If you look closely at my video review, you can see that part of the loops of the strap is 'crumpled' and the strap is not joint properly to the adapter showing a tiny gap when you look into it. Also, the workmanship of it is very shoddy IMO. I mean, this clone is a very good attempt compared to the other clones in the market but it failed in the quality and workmanship department...
 

Ridder

macrumors newbie
May 25, 2013
14
10
Netherlands
Got my local watch-store-24mm-leather-band today and put the SG Amazon adapters on it.
Now I only need the  Watch here......2 more days.

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The 24mm looks like the right size for 42mm adapters to me....

TBH I don't know if I put them the right way on the band....we'll see in a couple of day!

edit: mmmmm....looks like I put them on the band upside down: the middle metal thingie has to face down I think.
 
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slvrscoobie

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Mar 24, 2013
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NJ
Got my newer band attachment adapters from Utica guy / freedomoclock And they are stellar!! The black is a perfect match and they look way better than what came with the clockwork synergy strap! Gonna have to buy more for other bands. Really put the old 'pin style' to shame.
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iVegas

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Nov 16, 2013
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Just received my CLONE Milanese Loop in the mail. Not happy with it...

I'd rather have yours. I got my 42mm loop from the Utica guy and I'm not happy with it. The band is not edge to edge with the lug and just look horrible IMO. The band doesn't seem wide enough for the 42mm. It's already on the way back for a refund.

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Tangmu

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Jun 19, 2015
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If you look closely at my video review, you can see that part of the loops of the strap is 'crumpled' and the strap is not joint properly to the adapter showing a tiny gap when you look into it. Also, the workmanship of it is very shoddy IMO. I mean, this clone is a very good attempt compared to the other clones in the market but it failed in the quality and workmanship department...

Nice review ianfann! Maybe you can also post it to the OEM clone band thread. I guess there will be quite a few people interested in seeing it.
 
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