Yeah, multicore performance, what macos killer app really cares about that?
Yes you will get nice cinebench screenshots, if you can get it to boot...awesome
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Yes you will get nice cinebench screenshots, if you can get it to boot...awesome
Thanks for your advice.
I get all the arguments about old hardware, speed, time, etc. The fact that I am still using a Mac Pro 4,1 with Monterey (in my signature) as my daily drive says a lot already.
Still seems like no one can answer whether a dual CPU hackintosh can sleep properly or not? Someone should have attempted it one way or another.
If it can sleep properly, my goal is to fit it into my dead Mac Pro 4,1 case. So another time-wasting project.
A hackintosh is a PC ... When the time comes, the dual xeon system can be used as a high ram linux server, and much more stable than a consumer grade i5. I compile my own linux kernel, I know how to extract the last bit of performance from the hardware.
OK, yes, PC = personal computer. But in this context, it’s pretty clear I’m talking about a Windows desktop.
The point is that rather than messing with hackintosh issues - especially if you intend to run dual CPUs on a no-name Chinese motherboard - you could install Windows and get on with your life. Your choice, obviously.
The point is that rather than messing with hackintosh issues - especially if you intend to run dual CPUs on a no-name Chinese motherboard - you could install Windows and get on with your life. Your choice, obviously.
I cannot see any reason to use a Dual CPU System for Hackintosh these day´s.
As far as i know only older Xeon Systems run Dual CPU with Hackintosh and there are plenty Options to go faster with 13th Intel or even AMD Threadripper plus you burn less energy.
Also i would go Windows for a High End Video & 3D System.
As i do not know what is the actual Industry leading Standard, @ my time using it i had SGI with Softimage and Henry from Quantel, but for 3D Cinema 4D seems to be used now, very CPU related.
I think the Hackintosh Time is over.... i still have my Z490 Based 10th Gen Silent System as a Backup and this runs Super Stable because it is very near to Apple Hardware, but bought the MBA M2 last Year because Apple´s Hardware attracted me again after the poor Intel MBP and MBA´s. Even my 2013 HP 8300 3rd Gen. CPU with BigSur felt snappier than these MBP´s....
So my visits to the Mac Store could not convince me @ that time.
I use Mac´s since 1988.....
Now i enjoy my MBA M2 Silent every Day working with it mostly in Clamshell Mode.
When i have to go or decide to Work somewhere else i just need to unplug and go.
My iPhone does provide Internet.
External Storage is only needed for Backup and Battery Run Time ist WorkDay proof.
Love it.
As far as i know only older Xeon Systems run Dual CPU with Hackintosh and there are plenty Options to go faster with 13th Intel or even AMD Threadripper plus you burn less energy.
Also i would go Windows for a High End Video & 3D System.
As i do not know what is the actual Industry leading Standard, @ my time using it i had SGI with Softimage and Henry from Quantel, but for 3D Cinema 4D seems to be used now, very CPU related.
I think the Hackintosh Time is over.... i still have my Z490 Based 10th Gen Silent System as a Backup and this runs Super Stable because it is very near to Apple Hardware, but bought the MBA M2 last Year because Apple´s Hardware attracted me again after the poor Intel MBP and MBA´s. Even my 2013 HP 8300 3rd Gen. CPU with BigSur felt snappier than these MBP´s....
So my visits to the Mac Store could not convince me @ that time.
I use Mac´s since 1988.....
Now i enjoy my MBA M2 Silent every Day working with it mostly in Clamshell Mode.
When i have to go or decide to Work somewhere else i just need to unplug and go.
My iPhone does provide Internet.
External Storage is only needed for Backup and Battery Run Time ist WorkDay proof.
Love it.
Windows is literal spyware trash, and it gets worse every iteration. I've intentionally turned TPM off on every Wintel computer we have at the office to prevent that Windows 11 garbage from infecting our computers before Microsoft starts migrating them against our will, like they did with Windows 10.
The last straw for me was forcing Chromium Edge into Windows, and removing the ability to uninstall it, or prevent it from being used EVERYWHERE in Windows (see EdgeDeflector). Windows in the most pervasive spyware in computing history. Microsoft took Chrome, removed Google's spyware and implemented their own.
i use windowsXlite and there are many similar projects, they give a much better windows experience
Windows 11 is fine. I think US versions have lots of bloat (TikTok etc.), but that’s not the case in Europe. You can turn off the telemetry stuff easily enough, and the MS account requirement is easily bypassed during install, by typing something quick into the command line.
I use Brave rather than Edge.
I use Brave rather than Edge.
I actually thought my next computer was going to be my first new real Mac since 2012
Once I started looking at m3 performance and pricing I decided I wasn't really ready to spend big and give up all of my internal storage and ability to boot in to windows for the odd bit of gaming every now and again.
So for a fraction of the price of a similarly performant new Mac I upgraded the motherboard, gpu, cpu and ram in my existing box instead
my next new computer will almost certainly be a real Mac but for now I'm going to ride out the intel train to the end
Once I started looking at m3 performance and pricing I decided I wasn't really ready to spend big and give up all of my internal storage and ability to boot in to windows for the odd bit of gaming every now and again.
So for a fraction of the price of a similarly performant new Mac I upgraded the motherboard, gpu, cpu and ram in my existing box instead
my next new computer will almost certainly be a real Mac but for now I'm going to ride out the intel train to the end
from my own experience and other anecdotal evidence it would seem that it's difficult for almost any hackintosh to sleep properly
heck, even my real Macs always had trouble with sleep
pmset has always been an enigmatic black box to me
My 8700K Hackintosh can sleep without any issue, but I agree that's rare.
I also have a genuine Mac Pro 5,1. Sleep not always work (or even worse, mostly not work as expected). Now, I stick to Monterey, it sleep / wake quite well. At least the computer itself can sleep / wake without issue. Very occasionally, the monitor won't display anything after wake from sleep, but all I need to do is just power cycle the monitor (N.B the monitor itself is working properly, it can display from all other input. So, power cycle the monitor can fix the issue, but the problem is still macOS unstable GPU driver).
For dual CPU setup, if you are using some very old Xeon (e.g. dual X5690), then most likely you can make it sleep properly. However, by considering those CPU are so old, and a single modern CPU can outperform them, there is no point to create such a Hackintosh. Also, buying a dual X5690 genuine is cheap, then why go for Hackintosh?
But for modern Xeons, then I doubt if the OS can really deal with them properly. There is no such mac every sold. Therefore, most likely nothing is coded inside macOS to handle that.
I also have a genuine Mac Pro 5,1. Sleep not always work (or even worse, mostly not work as expected). Now, I stick to Monterey, it sleep / wake quite well. At least the computer itself can sleep / wake without issue. Very occasionally, the monitor won't display anything after wake from sleep, but all I need to do is just power cycle the monitor (N.B the monitor itself is working properly, it can display from all other input. So, power cycle the monitor can fix the issue, but the problem is still macOS unstable GPU driver).
For dual CPU setup, if you are using some very old Xeon (e.g. dual X5690), then most likely you can make it sleep properly. However, by considering those CPU are so old, and a single modern CPU can outperform them, there is no point to create such a Hackintosh. Also, buying a dual X5690 genuine is cheap, then why go for Hackintosh?
But for modern Xeons, then I doubt if the OS can really deal with them properly. There is no such mac every sold. Therefore, most likely nothing is coded inside macOS to handle that.
My i7 8700 + 6600 XT Hack soldiers on and performs flawlessly
I’ve decided to stay on Ventura though, as I prefer my easily native everything (referring mainly to WiFi Broadcom changes in Sonoma)
I love having a dual booting desktop with multiple NVMe and internal SATA SSDs
So flexible and useful for me
I’ve decided to stay on Ventura though, as I prefer my easily native everything (referring mainly to WiFi Broadcom changes in Sonoma)
I love having a dual booting desktop with multiple NVMe and internal SATA SSDs
So flexible and useful for me
I found Sonoma a fair bit snappier than Ventura, sequoia I'm not sure yet since I've only played around with fresh install
I noticed no difference whatsoever… I ran Sonoma for a month
I have changed my WLAN to AX210 PCIE and running my Sonoma on the Z490 Based MSI Board Perfect as always with a USB Stick for BT and also Sonoma 14.5 is running on Proxmox on this PC with full Graphics via MMIO on the RX6600.
I am Working on my MBA 99% of the Time but having a Backup Mashine and a small Gaming PC in my Office for my Daughters when they want to talk is Perfect.
It also Serves for VM Hosting via Proxmox to check and Test Installations.
Putting a new 6800 XT in my Hack tomorrow!
Snagged one of those Dell true dual slot models 💪
Next up -- getting serious about a 12th or newer gen full upgrade of Mobo/CPU/RAM
Nothing beats the utility of the dual boot flexibility of Hacks
Not a thing wrong with my i7 8700 build though .. might repurpose it if I upgrade
Might not upgrade at all honestly -- just continues to be frickin' amazing
Snagged one of those Dell true dual slot models 💪
Next up -- getting serious about a 12th or newer gen full upgrade of Mobo/CPU/RAM
Nothing beats the utility of the dual boot flexibility of Hacks
Not a thing wrong with my i7 8700 build though .. might repurpose it if I upgrade
Might not upgrade at all honestly -- just continues to be frickin' amazing
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Are you at all concerned about the 13th and 14th gen issues? I'm not completely sure if Intel has the problems figured out right now.
I have not noticed any degradation on my 14700k as of yet
I’ve kept sensible power and voltage limits from the start so hopefully that helps
I do wish there was a definitive way to test it
Apparantly the only test anyone has figured out requires an nvidia gpu, which, running macOS i obviously don’t have
The concern that I have is that the issue on some was caused by oxidation which takes a toll over time. I assume that it's fixed by now but I wouldn't want to get one during the period of manufacturing problems. Intel hasn't released a date range for that issue. What's annoying is that they apparently have known about this problem for five months but really haven't said much about it.
AMD has a new 3 nm chip which looks a lot more interesting.
If i was
If i was buying a chip now I would certainly be looking at amd more closely than I normally would
Having already bought I can only hope my cpu is fine
I thought I read that the oxidation issue was 13th gen, while both were affected by crazy voltage requests
I do wish there was a way to test it
If i was buying a chip now I would certainly be looking at amd more closely than I normally would
Having already bought I can only hope my cpu is fine
I thought I read that the oxidation issue was 13th gen, while both were affected by crazy voltage requests
I do wish there was a way to test it
