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Did you return your iPhone 14 Pro / Max?

  • Yes

    Votes: 123 19.7%
  • No

    Votes: 500 80.3%

  • Total voters
    623
Sorry but that commentary is total nonsense. Do you even own one? The iPhone 14 Pro is essentially the identical size as the iPhone 13 Pro, with a tiny bit deeper camera lens bump (what is it, + one mm?) and fits in my men's pants pocket fine, just like the 13 Pro did. And I carried the 13 Pro every day for a year...

Personally I would gladly double the 14 Pro lens bump for double the lens quality, and it would still fit in my (left front, Levis 501s) pants pocket without issue. The iPhone Pro Max may be hard to fit in pockets, but that is an intentional choice folks make who specifically want such a large size phone.

The person you are replying to definitely does not own one... They consistently advocate against upgrading your phone on here constantly... Judging by their posts they are still rocking the iPhone 3G or something similar lol.
 
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I have a 11 Pro Max, but I have my new 14 Pro Max still sitting in its box. I'm worried if I transfer to the 14 Pro Max and decide to return, if it will be difficult to reactivate the 11 Pro Max.
No, that's not an issue. Don't worry about going back. No issue.

Btw, why? I would think going from a 11 Max would be a decent upgrade. I guess it depends on how much you are paying. I'm going from a 11 Max, but with ATT I pay almost nothing. This is the incentive I needed.
 
That’s a ridiculous comment to make. I’m in decent condition and go to the gym regularly and find the 14 Pro Max and even the Pro slightly uncomfortable to hold for prolonged periods due to weight distribution being uneven (which means I have to compensate for this) and also having to grip the phone in a slightly unnatural way due to the squared edges and dimensions. I was using my burner iPhone 7 for a while before picking up the 14 Pro and Pro Max and it was much more comfortable over extended use but of course I missed the new tech whilst using the 7 so I readily accept having to make a compromise with comfort to be able to use a better camera etc.
This is unequivocally false. I’ve been using max and plus size phones from Apple since their inception, and have had no issues carrying them in my front pocket.

That being said, those gentlemen who like to wear skinny jeans, yeah I could see it being an issue. Outside of really tight fitting men’s clothes, it fits just fine in most men’s pants pockets, as they are deep enough.

Just ignore her. After reading all her post on the other thread she made, who criticize people's decision for buying the new iPhone. She has nothing better to do with her time than to criticize people's decision for buying the new iPhone while hating on the iPhone 14 and iPhone Pro/Pro Max and use misleading information to try to straighten her argument. She is probably jealous that she can't afford one, that's the impression I'm getting.
 
Btw, why? I would think going from a 11 Max would be a decent upgrade. I guess it depends on how much you are paying. I'm going from a 11 Max, but with ATT I pay almost nothing. This is the incentive I needed.
I was going to keep my 12P and just put a new battery in it, but with the deal from Verizon, I get a new phone and my monthly bill goes *down*. So why not switch?
 
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Yes, easy to go back and fourth.. just don’t trade in your old device or wipe it until you are sure you are keeping the new one. With the US being esim only, it’s not as easy as swapping SIM cards, but you can transfer the new esim back to an older device that supports eSim just as easily.
Even if keeping the new phone, some apps or services use your old device as “trusted”, so you may need to authorize something there to log in for the first time on your new device. (Some banks and employee BYOD apps are notorious for doing this)
 
Some good reasons to return the phones here. The one I don’t get is the size of the camera bump(given that all phones will have some kind of bump); it doesn’t matter to me one way or another. What is it that people find objectionable about this years bump? (Honest curious question).

The main reason they’re returning is buyers remorse. Can’t really afford it. But couldn’t resist the hype.

We see it every year.
 
Iphone 14 Pro is going back due to the usual eye strain and debilitating migraine issues I associate with PWM on OLED. 😞 5th year of this.....

And it most certainly is not because I cannot afford it. For 5 years I've been unable to upgrade so I have a large fund waiting to be spent with Apple for a suite of their products but they insist on using PWM at low frequencies + dithering on their displays which for some, like myself, cannot use.
 
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How many people need to be polled for you to consider it valid? The metric is coming strait from the top of the page. I never said it was representative of global sales and returns. But it’s a higher number than previous polls and that’s a data point.
That's not how statistics work. The poll has less than 100 people. Apple sells well over 200 million iPhones a year.

MacRumors is also a highly skewed data set, as are all other special interest enthusiast groups. My colleagues who bought 14s last week are all keeping their phones. None one of them are returning them. None of them are active in these forums.
 
Source of this number, please? I couldn't care less about the actual number, but is this data or did you pull a percentage out of your a**?
They're going off this 91 person MacRumors poll. 😂

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Iphone 14 Pro is going back due to the usual eye strain and debilitating migraine issues I associate with PWM on OLED. 😞 5th year of this.....

And it most certainly not because I cannot afford it. For 5 years I've been unable to upgrade so I have a large fund waiting to be spent with Apple for a suite of their products but they insist on using PWM at low frequencies + dithering on their displays which for some, like myself, cannot use.
Above what frequency does the issue resolve for you? I know it differs person to person, and the standard iPhone 14 Pro was nearing 1k hz I thought (vs around 500 for the Pro Max)?
 
I'm just worried that this AOD is not going to help things. With the amazing battery life of these things, something Apple has slowly, and carefully worked out, do we really need this? Is it a gimmick for sales?

This forum will be interesting as reviews come in, over time.
 
I care greatly about performance and have been noticing a significant difference with the 3nm A16 so I'll be sticking with mine. Went from a 13 Pro to 14 Pro and pretty happy so far other than the battery life which seems to be slightly worse than before.
 
I'm just worried that this AOD is not going to help things. With the amazing battery life of these things, something Apple has slowly, and carefully worked out, do we really need this?

This forum will be interesting as reviews come in of a period of time.
I mean you can always turn it off.

Apple is more follower than leader in this case. AODs have been around for a very long time. Plenty will turn it off. Others, like myself, have been waiting for this for a long time and will leave it on.
 
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Me neither. I pay off my 13PM Friday and can't find a single 14PM nearby. These people buying and returned somewhat irritate me because they are taking phones out of stock they don't even want.
Yeah I agree. There’s just not enough difference for me to upgrade from 13 Pro to 14 Pro. I upgrade my Watch this year and went with Watch Ultra instead.
 
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Above what frequency does the issue resolve for you? I know it differs person to person, and the standard iPhone 14 Pro was nearing 1k hz I thought (vs around 500 for the Pro Max)?
Sadly I have no clue. I wasnt aware of PWM etc until I found I couldn't use the X. Since then I have patiently waited for each years new release to only find I still cannot use any OLED iPhones. I have an OLED Samsung TV which is fine but my work has installed new ceiling lights which are straining me. Filming the lights in slo mo I can see them flickering like crazy! So it not a sensitivity I can fully explain but my eye health is fine (but I do wear contact lenses).

The iPhones OLED displays have steadily been uping the PWM frequencies to the point I could use the 14 Pro without feeling eye strain at the time of use, which is an improvement on previous years where I would feel strain within an hour, but the next day the back of my eyes were aching and I woke with a terrible migraine. This has been the result with previous years and I cannot comprise my health for a phone and I'm certainly not alone with the issue.
 
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I'm just worried that this AOD is not going to help things. With the amazing battery life of these things, something Apple has slowly, and carefully worked out, do we really need this? Is it a gimmick for sales?
People were whining about not having it, so Apple added a version of it. You can easily turn it off, which is what I did.
 
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Men cannot fit these phones comfortably in their pants. ...
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I can and I'm a small guy, 173cm (about 5'8") and weighing about 61kg (9st 9lbs). It's how I've always carried my mobile devices from my first Palm V in 1999 through every mobile phone I've ever owned since then. If I can't do that then my mobile computing device can't be with me everywhere without me really needing to think about it and that defeats most of the purpose for me.

I was very nervous about going from a Pro to a Pro Max and my first critical test was to go into an Apple store and slip one of the display models into the front pocket of my trousers (pants) - tethered to the table of course but I'm sure one Apple employee was watching me carefully out of the corner of his eye! Now 2 years on from that 12 Pro Max (via the 13 PM and now with a 14 PM) I've been surprised just how quickly I adapted to the extent that I sometimes find myself walking down the street a minute or two after leaving my house and reaching down to feel my pocket in a minor panic because I'm so unaware of the weight and size that I think "did I forget to bring my phone with me?".

I realise that different people have very different reactions to the size and weight of the Pro Max but it's dangerous to make sweeping statements. Ultimately we're all sharing anecdotes and a bunch of individual anecdotes does not comprise reliable data. Maybe no one knows for sure what the closest approximation to a consensus opinion might be as to whether the Pro Max form factor is alienating too many potential users now but if there is anyone best positioned to try and collect meaningful data about those attitudes in a systematic enough way to draw some sort of conclusions then I would suggest that would be Apple market research that presumably tries to stay in touch with how its user base and target markets are reacting to its products.

Personally I would start to get concerned if the biggest iPhones got too much bigger or heavier (I wouldn't actually mind if the main body got a bit thicker simply to make the huge camera bump a bit less prominent) but for now the 14 Pro Max still passes the "comfortable to always have it in my pocket" test albeit maybe with not too much growth margin to spare.
 
We totally disagree. A few grams additional weight and a bit more camera bump are welcome when they bring camera and overall performance improvements.

Folks who feel like you do should simply stick with lesser smartphones like the 12.
Your opinion. Not mine. I would likely have gone for it if the camera bump was no greater than the iPhone 13 Pro, and even that was pushing it.
 
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These phones aren't made for people who actually need to carry them around in standard pants. No one in my office uses them (many have the smallest phones possible).

Men cannot fit these phones comfortably in their pants. Women can put them in purses, but I've heard more than a few complain about how uncomfortable they are even to hold! The square edges cut into your hands. It's noticeable, especially because of how heavy they are.

Steve Jobs has definitely left the building. There are evidently lots of bobblehead "yes" people at Apple just picking up paychecks and never saying no to stupid ideas that flow from managers. We've all seen this behavior before.
Nails it.
 
How many people need to be polled for you to consider it valid? The metric is coming strait from the top of the page. I never said it was representative of global sales and returns. But it’s a higher number than previous polls and that’s a data point.

For polling data to be considered useful, the poll has to be conducted to certain standards, with the number of people polled being just one consideration. Needless to say, the poll in this thread is not being conducted to any standards whatsoever and no conclusions whatsoever should be drawn from it.
 
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