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Did you return your iPhone 14 Pro / Max?

  • Yes

    Votes: 123 19.7%
  • No

    Votes: 500 80.3%

  • Total voters
    623
Damn if you're an adult and find 7.3 grams "so heavy" you might want to consider lifting some weights or doing some pushups.
I'm coming from an iPhone 12. The phone is much bigger and heavier and I dislike it. I don't need weightlifting lessons. I'm 6'2" and have been lifting weights for 25 years and played semi-pro hockey. I weighed as much as 225 pounds with 4% body fat. What an absurd comment.
 
What sort of pants do you wear? A 14Pro with a case on it fits just fine in my left front pocket. People who expect the Max, any Max, to fit in a pocket, any pocket, are IMO kidding themselves.


Right. Because Jobs had *nothing* to do with the iP4 with its squared edges. (/sarcasm)
You can't even compare the two. There is literally no camera bump on an iPhone 4, it's way smaller and is lighter, etc.
 
Underrated comment. This ^^^ is the real problem.
At least now Pros are showing, so the dilemma will be do I just want Pro instead if I can't find a single Max on Friday when I pay my 13PM off. Would save some $$$ too; font size is the same but just don't have as much on the screen at once, right?
 
Apple's marketing of the iPhone 6, its last sensible phone, touted thinness and comfort: "iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are engineered to be the thinnest ever, delivering a bigger display in a design that is still comfortable to hold and easy to use."


Haven't heard much about thin and comfortable lately, have we?

As someone upthread said, Apple has indeed lost the plot.
I really hate the design of modern iPhones. The squared off and chunky design. I really miss my iPhone X. That was very good design. Rounded edges, very comfortable.
 
For polling data to be considered useful, the poll has to be conducted to certain standards, with the number of people polled being just one consideration. Needless to say, the poll in this thread is not being conducted to any standards whatsoever and no conclusions whatsoever should be drawn from it.
LOL. We will draw some conclusions from it. And the poll is valid. There is nothing invalid about the poll. We're not necessarily going to generalize from it but there's no sense in just attacking it.
 
I'm just worried that this AOD is not going to help things. With the amazing battery life of these things, something Apple has slowly, and carefully worked out, do we really need this? Is it a gimmick for sales?

This forum will be interesting as reviews come in, over time.

If only there was a way to turn it off. Lol
 
After being unimpressed with the clunky hardware design and fighting with the dysfunctional & chaotic OS, it’s going back this morning. My old iPhone 6 with iOS12 offers a cleaner, more useful (headphone jack) far more efficient and reliable user experience. This seems to have abandoned that ethos & might as well be an android. The old is practically elegant in its simplicity and effectiveness as a tool. They’ve really cluttered it up with a pile of rickety junk in the time since.
 
That's not how statistics work. The poll has less than 100 people. Apple sells well over 200 million iPhones a year.

MacRumors is also a highly skewed data set, as are all other special interest enthusiast groups. My colleagues who bought 14s last week are all keeping their phones. None one of them are returning them. None of them are active in these forums.
You are committing all kinds of logical fallacies here. Your experience and your "friends" are no more valid than any other source of information yet you are implying some generalized conclusions from it. Also, the poll does not have less than 100 people (it's over 100), it's growing by the day.

The very criticism you lodge against this poll is the same that can be applied to many polls. And when it comes to the Macrumors people, they may have such a bias toward Apple that the results of this poll become even more valid.

Anyway, take a chill pill. Nobody is going to generalize from this poll alone, but it's valid and a worthwhile indicator of what is happening with a group of knowledgeable Apple supporters.
 
Underrated comment. This ^^^ is the real problem.
This. I have to swap out my space black 256gb for another as I have some issues with my screen and I keep refreshing the iPhone availability site and nothing at all is populating. I didn't think demand was this high this year.
 
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This. I have to swap out my space black 256gb for another as I have some issues with my screen and I keep refreshing the iPhone availability site and nothing at all is populating. I didn't think demand was this high this year.
I suspect it’s due to less supply this year more than a sudden surge of demand.
 
Apple's marketing of the iPhone 6, its last sensible phone, touted thinness and comfort: "iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are engineered to be the thinnest ever, delivering a bigger display in a design that is still comfortable to hold and easy to use."


Haven't heard much about thin and comfortable lately, have we?

As someone upthread said, Apple has indeed lost the plot.
Back then people kept trying to run the phones naked and kept sitting on them then blaming apple for them bending. Wish they’d bring those concepts back.
 
After being unimpressed with the clunky hardware design and fighting with the dysfunctional & chaotic OS, it’s going back this morning. My old iPhone 6 with iOS12 offers a cleaner, more useful (headphone jack) far more efficient and reliable user experience. This seems to have abandoned that ethos & might as well be an android. The old is practically elegant in its simplicity and effectiveness as a tool. They’ve really cluttered it up with a pile of rickety junk in the time since.

Another thing the 6 had going for it was outstanding call quality. I guess few use their phones as phones anymore. But unless you use airpods, the phones after the 6 all had call quality that was worse for the receiver of your calls.
 
I suspect it’s due to less supply this year more than a sudden surge of demand.
Agreed, this is most likely the culprit.

I did see a few purple and silver pop in yesterday but I figured I would stick with SB but now I'm just hoping any color pops in.
 
I think it’s a pretty big wakeup call when over 10% of are returning their phones. That’s a very large percentage and if it holds for the populace that’s a ton of lost revenue for Apple as well as the cost of taking a returned item. They don’t get to just flip it and put it back out there they have to test and repackage everything which means shipping, having people interact with with, etc. it’s a huge deal and why most items on Amazon that you return are simply junked or resold as used.
Apple laughs at this comment to the tune of $2.2 Trillion.
 
For polling data to be considered useful, the poll has to be conducted to certain standards, with the number of people polled being just one consideration. Needless to say, the poll in this thread is not being conducted to any standards whatsoever and no conclusions whatsoever should be drawn from it.
If any of that were true then the poll function wouldn’t exist. For a poll to be accurate it needs to be unbiased and that’s it. Regardless of how you feel about it, 11% of the people here that have answered the poll have already returned their phones. That is a data point and it’s standard is that the same poll has been asked previously with previous year models. So by having the same environment, same statistical crowd, the return numbers are higher. That is a very valid point and will be a valid point worldwide. To a degree it would appear people are less satisfied with this product than in years pass and that will be shown in the future. We can revisit this when the first articles of slowing iPhone sales start to show and they blame it on something like inflation or an economic slowdown even though companies are subsidizing these phones more than previous models and bringing their cost of ownership to the individual down.
 
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LOL. We will draw some conclusions from it. And the poll is valid. There is nothing invalid about the poll. We're not necessarily going to generalize from it but there's no sense in just attacking it.
This is correct. The poll definitely tells us something. Now, we can’t necessarily make inferences about the population of iPhone purchasers because we didn’t draw a randomized sample from that population. But to say it’s useless is an overstatement.
 
Coming from a 12PM I will be keeping the 14PM. I don’t notice a difference in weight. The camera bump is bigger and more noticeable but it doesn’t bother me. I always have my phone in a case so for me it’s a non issue. Camera quality is definitely better. The speakers even sound better and louder. Im also a fan of the AOD. I don’t know what kind of effect it will have on battery life but having the PM the battery life has been great for me on all years.
 
If any of that were true then the pill function wouldn’t exist. For a poll to be accurate it needs to be unbiased and that’s it. Regardless of how you feel about it, 11% of the people here that have answered the poll have already returned their phones. That is a data point and it’s standard is that the same poll has been asked previously with previous year models. So by having the same environment, same statistical crowd, the return numbers are higher. That is a very valid point and will be a valid point worldwide. To a degree it would appear people are less satisfied with this product than in years pass and that will be shown in the future. We can revisit this when the first articles of slowing iPhone sales start to show and they blame it on something like inflation or an economic slowdown even though companies are subsidizing these phones more than previous models and bringing their cost of ownership to the individual down.
What companies are subsidising the 14 Pro/Pro Max? Most carriers in the UK are charging an arm and a leg (unless you have access to a discount) and for many it’s cheaper to buy outright and use a sim only deal.
 
I returned the 14 pro and went with the 14. I was looking to downsize and lighten up from the 12pm I've had for the last couple of years. The pro was just too clunky. I'm not a heavy camera user and DI would not get a lot of use in my case. I'm happy I tried it and loved the purple color, but the 14 is much better suited to my needs.
 
What companies are subsidising the 14 Pro/Pro Max? Most carriers in the UK are charging and arm and a leg (unless you have access to a discount) and for many it’s cheaper to buy outright and use a sim only deal.
Tmobile in the US gives a massive credit. I can buy the phone outright and still get $800 in credits applied to my bill for the next 24 months. If I traded in a 13pro I’d get $1k in credit.

I never finance a phone. To me it’s either throw down the CC or admit I can’t afford it. A phone is a luxury item and to me to shouldn’t be something you have to save up for or finance. Debt is the largest leash the world can put on someone.
 
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