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Unfortunate that iOS switched to a predominantly white UI about 4 years ago then....
"Professional" reviewers are supplied with early units by Apple. Will you figure out what might happen if they do a "not so good review" of the devices?
If anything it should have been the other way round, that’s pretty bad. I’ll be taking a close look when I go to pick mine up, I love my 4K OLED TV it’s the most amazing screen I’ve ever seen. If the X isn’t at least as good, I won’t be getting it.
That being said I'm still excited to get mine.
A slight left-at-the-traffic-lights off-topic post, but what TV? I'm getting my Xbox One X Scorpio delivered on Tuesday and will be in the market for a 4K TV...
Not true. OLED is well known for having a blue or pink tint when slightly off axis.
Humans aren’t meant to be perpetually excited or happy. It’s an evolutionary mechanism that propels us forward. We are notoriously bad at overestimating both what will makes us happy and for how long.
Isn’t the emoji button only in landscape?
It’s an LG 55OLEDC6V, although all of the TV’s in the range use the exact same panel it’s largely design that varies them. Not me saying that, straight from LG.
Initially I wasn’t going for a curved one, I’m not, or wasn’t a fan. But this one’s so slight that it thankfully doesn’t cause distortion and it actually worked out better for where we sit in opposite corners of the room, we can all see the whole picture.
But yeah, anyway, I highly recommend it, the panel that is, get whatever style suits you. Or better yet, get the 2017 variant, there’s some improvement in that one again.
Oh, I’ve not got my Scorpio yet, but it’s great with the PS4 Pro and pretty much anything that displays HDR, truly stunning. Does a really good job with 1080p content too. SD suffers, but then it would.
Depends, phones maybe I’ve seen a few exhibit it, but I sit well off axis with my OLED TV and the colours are spot on.
I am a bit sad right now.
I have decided that I will return my iPhone X... I got it a few hours ago (Germany), installation went smoothly. First impressions: I hate the sharp edges between the screen / back and the metal, and I also cannot comfortably reach the emoticon/keyboard button in the lower left side with my thumb (I use the phone with one hand), which is a deal-breaker. Also, the display changes color too much when viewing at slight angles, reminds me of 10 year old LCD displays unfortunately.
I owned every iPhone since the start, and this is the first one I will be returning. Disappointing.
Am I alone?
This thread is pointless without pictures.
Oh, and I don't believe you.
Thanks, good to hear as I was planning on getting the LG OLED55C7V
You won’t be disappointed, they really are worth every penny. I still get moments after a year when my jaw about hits the floor and I’m fussy about my displays, I was a Kuro man for that reason.
I agree. One of the selling points of OLED TVs is the off-axis viewing quality! I experience no loss of quality on my OLED TV off-axis.
That’s accurate. I’ve had about about 9 OLED based Samsung phones since 2010 and they they will shift colors when tilted at certain angles. Mind you, this is ALL phone OLED screens I’ve encountered.
Though unless you view your device at some funky angle, you won’t really notice. It’s a problem you actually have to seek out.
After reading this some may change there minds, be happy with that older generation AMOLED display
Display
For many years, Apple fans have claimed that the AMOLED screens from Samsung are extremely bad, they have the wrong colors (about the color rendition and what it is, as a rule, they did not know), too high brightness (that was a shame, when the advantage was recorded in the minus), and still there is Pentile in them. Since mid-2016, I was aware that Apple plans to purchase AMOLED-screens Samsung, and it was interesting how the tone of the statements will change. It has changed to the diametrically opposite: now the screen of the iPhone X is the standard and the future, which suddenly happened.
My first greetings are sent to members of the sect of Pentile witnesses who can see with the naked eye those same subpixels (when the dot on the screen consists of separate points and they can see them without a microscope, which is impossible even theoretically, but they know how to do it). The iPhone X uses the structure of the Diamond Pixel screen, it fully corresponds to what is used in screens from Samsung, for example, in the same Note 8.
At a resolution of 2436x1125 pixels, it's not just impossible to see any sub-pixels, it's from the realm of fantasy. Unfortunately, Apple could not buy from Samsung screens of recent generations, since their cost was prohibitively high, Samsung left such a matrix for their devices. As a result, Apple was content with generation 5, that is, the level of the Galaxy S6 matrix (for comparison, in Note 8 there is a screen of generation 8, and in S9 in half a year it will be the 9th generation). For the average person, all these generations look like a sort of gibberish, which does not say anything. But let's try to understand the details and the things that Apple saved for the screen of the iPhone X, because they did not want to overpay for the latest developments.
So, the first ideological solution is to limit the brightness of the screen, by default it is set to 625 nits (manual adjustment), that is exactly the same level as the iPhone 7/8 and other models. This is a comfortable level for the room, but in bright sun it is not so good (sorry, but in Moscow it's rainy and it's hard to show it in the photos). For comparison, in the automatic mode iPhone X issues 725 nits, under the same conditions and also with automatic adjustment of the Samsung Galaxy S8 + 1 000 nits, and Note 8 1 200 nits. That is, the current flagship from Samsung gives brightness almost twice as much, which makes the picture in bright light much more realistic, you do not see fading and, for example, when photographing, you can achieve realistic results, for example, when correcting the exposure, and do not do it at random .
The contrast of the screen is 1.000.000: 1, for comparison, in the iPhone 8/8 Plus it's 1300: 1 and 1400: 1, the perception screens are different as the sky and earth, the display in the iPhone X is much better than in other iPhone. But the comparison with Galaxy Note 8, he will lose, this matrix of different generations, the display from the iPhone should rather be compared with the Galaxy S6. But for the iPhone audience, in any case, this is a strong step forward, since they did not see anything comparable, they simply do not have experience in using high-quality AMOLED screens.
Just like in the G8, the iPhone X has True Tone technology, it uses the RGB sensor on the front panel to evaluate the lighting conditions and shift the white balance point, colors are more natural. In my opinion, this is a good technology that makes the picture more natural, no matter where you look at it, in bed under a blanket, in an office or on the street. The sensor tries to bring the picture to some common denominator. In screens from Samsung generation 8 and 9, more advanced RGB sensors are used, with a more accurate estimate of the illumination, plus two on the front and back surfaces. Great brightness allows you to adjust the white balance in a wide range, which makes the picture the same in almost all conditions. In the iPhone X, this is not the case, there is not enough capacity in the display. But again, for people who have not tried the best, this will be a definite step forward.
Now we need to talk about the cutout on the screen. Apple said that the screen diagonal is 5.8 inches, but in practice this is not so because of the cutout on the top of the speaker and other sensors. In most programs, this space on the sides of the speaker is not used, and can not be used. Even Apple did not come up with anything better than how to simply output the network signal, the Wi-Fi designation, and the battery.
It's a pity, but there is simply no place for a percentage of battery power, for some reason Apple thought it was not important. I very much hope that the company will come to its senses and return the percentage of charge so that we can see this parameter.
Now a bit of entertaining mathematics. Remember, when phone manufacturers started to put massive cameras, but indicated the thickness of the case without taking into account this blotch, so that the dimensions did not seem excessive? In the iPhone X we have the opposite situation, when the manufacturer tries to make it clear that the screen is bigger than it really is. The reason is banal, we needed parity with the Galaxy S8, in which the screen is 5.8 inches. And this parity was achieved due to an interesting trick: the diagonal of the screen is measured taking into account the cutout. But if you remove the cutout and parts of the screen above it (and that will be in most programs), then it turns out that the screen is 5.5 inches, and not 5.8 inches, as they say. Note also that the screen has rounded edges, both above and below.
The claimed aspect ratio is 19.5: 9, but we remove the cutout and get 18.5: 9, that is completely the same ratio as in the Samsung flagships. Why is this so? The answer lies in the fact that for such applications as video, for example, YouTube, this aspect ratio is more or less acceptable. In comparison with the iPhone 8, you get on the screen of the iPhone X about 10% more pictures when watching a video, but in programs (lists) it will already be a greater gain.
For me, it remains unclear how in Apple, where Jobs once drew attention to trifles, could shoot a camera so that the final result does not stretch over the entire screen. This is just one function that makes the user enjoyable, as he sees the picture on the whole screen. In the same Samsung you can simply choose the geometry of the image that is close to you. Here? And here in the iPhone X you have huge black stripes on the sides. And after that you want to say that someone at Apple thinks about the little things?
Do you want to be surprised again? For example, you know for sure that 5.8 inches is more than 5.5 inches, right? In fact, the screen in the iPhone 8 Plus is more approximately 5% of the area. Not God knows what's the difference, but it's noticeable - Plus is wider and smaller, while the iPhone X is higher. This is how entertaining mathematics turns out.
The cutout in the screen of the iPhone X is an attempt in the absence of technology and even a semblance of control over the supplier (Samsung in this case, well done, just got it and got super profits from old designs from Apple) to do something unique. I'm sure that Samsung twisted a finger at his temple, when Apple decided to stand out that way. No bent screens, because they are much more difficult to manufacture, no real advantages, but only a cutout. It is also called the eyebrow or beard.
This is an objectively stupid solution, as most developers will have to adapt their programs to the rounded screens of the iPhone X, as well as the cutout that is available in this unit. Sooner or later they will do it, but it's just a waste of time, as this cut-out does not make any sense. It's a game with numbers to get a big diagonal for less money and show that we have a big screen, not less than a direct competitor.
Just for comparison, Samsung's flagships have 3K screens with a resolution of 2960x1440 pixels, while the iPhone X has a 2K screen with a resolution of 2436x1125 pixels. It is clear that you can close your eyes to this and calculate the difference is insignificant. As well as count all other parameters of the screens are not as important as they could be.
With great pleasure I read how the screen is praised in the iPhone X, as it confirms the words written by me a couple of years ago that the screens in Galaxy S6 (all models of that brood) are different and outperform their time. The fact that in the iPhone X put their old version, it's good. As well as the fact that they added support for HDR for video (only for certain services for the US, it is useless in Russia).
And Apple regretted the extra $ 5 for adding AlwaysOn Display to its flagship, leaving, so to speak, space for "improvements" in the future. As well as there are no additional power-saving modes (transferring the screen to black and white), which is also very expensive for Apple.
A short conclusion is that it's the best screen among all iPhones, but it can not hold comparisons with real technological flagships of the market, it has lagged behind for several years. The cost of repairing the screen, if you break it, is 279 dollars in the USA (in Russia it is slightly less than 30 thousand rubles), additional insurance AppleCare + will cost you $ 199, then the screen will be replaced for $ 29 once. To beat this device is not necessary, it is too expensive.
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Display
For many years, Apple fans have claimed that the AMOLED screens from Samsung are extremely bad, they have the wrong colors (about the color rendition and what it is, as a rule, they did not know), too high brightness (that was a shame, when the advantage was recorded in the minus), and still there is Pentile in them. Since mid-2016, I was aware that Apple plans to purchase AMOLED-screens Samsung, and it was interesting how the tone of the statements will change. It has changed to the diametrically opposite: now the screen of the iPhone X is the standard and the future, which suddenly happened.
My first greetings are sent to members of the sect of Pentile witnesses who can see with the naked eye those same subpixels (when the dot on the screen consists of separate points and they can see them without a microscope, which is impossible even theoretically, but they know how to do it). The iPhone X uses the structure of the Diamond Pixel screen, it fully corresponds to what is used in screens from Samsung, for example, in the same Note 8.
At a resolution of 2436x1125 pixels, it's not just impossible to see any sub-pixels, it's from the realm of fantasy. Unfortunately, Apple could not buy from Samsung screens of recent generations, since their cost was prohibitively high, Samsung left such a matrix for their devices. As a result, Apple was content with generation 5, that is, the level of the Galaxy S6 matrix (for comparison, in Note 8 there is a screen of generation 8, and in S9 in half a year it will be the 9th generation). For the average person, all these generations look like a sort of gibberish, which does not say anything. But let's try to understand the details and the things that Apple saved for the screen of the iPhone X, because they did not want to overpay for the latest developments.
So, the first ideological solution is to limit the brightness of the screen, by default it is set to 625 nits (manual adjustment), that is exactly the same level as the iPhone 7/8 and other models. This is a comfortable level for the room, but in bright sun it is not so good (sorry, but in Moscow it's rainy and it's hard to show it in the photos). For comparison, in the automatic mode iPhone X issues 725 nits, under the same conditions and also with automatic adjustment of the Samsung Galaxy S8 + 1 000 nits, and Note 8 1 200 nits. That is, the current flagship from Samsung gives brightness almost twice as much, which makes the picture in bright light much more realistic, you do not see fading and, for example, when photographing, you can achieve realistic results, for example, when correcting the exposure, and do not do it at random .
The contrast of the screen is 1.000.000: 1, for comparison, in the iPhone 8/8 Plus it's 1300: 1 and 1400: 1, the perception screens are different as the sky and earth, the display in the iPhone X is much better than in other iPhone. But the comparison with Galaxy Note 8, he will lose, this matrix of different generations, the display from the iPhone should rather be compared with the Galaxy S6. But for the iPhone audience, in any case, this is a strong step forward, since they did not see anything comparable, they simply do not have experience in using high-quality AMOLED screens.
Just like in the G8, the iPhone X has True Tone technology, it uses the RGB sensor on the front panel to evaluate the lighting conditions and shift the white balance point, colors are more natural. In my opinion, this is a good technology that makes the picture more natural, no matter where you look at it, in bed under a blanket, in an office or on the street. The sensor tries to bring the picture to some common denominator. In screens from Samsung generation 8 and 9, more advanced RGB sensors are used, with a more accurate estimate of the illumination, plus two on the front and back surfaces. Great brightness allows you to adjust the white balance in a wide range, which makes the picture the same in almost all conditions. In the iPhone X, this is not the case, there is not enough capacity in the display. But again, for people who have not tried the best, this will be a definite step forward.
Now we need to talk about the cutout on the screen. Apple said that the screen diagonal is 5.8 inches, but in practice this is not so because of the cutout on the top of the speaker and other sensors. In most programs, this space on the sides of the speaker is not used, and can not be used. Even Apple did not come up with anything better than how to simply output the network signal, the Wi-Fi designation, and the battery.
It's a pity, but there is simply no place for a percentage of battery power, for some reason Apple thought it was not important. I very much hope that the company will come to its senses and return the percentage of charge so that we can see this parameter.
Now a bit of entertaining mathematics. Remember, when phone manufacturers started to put massive cameras, but indicated the thickness of the case without taking into account this blotch, so that the dimensions did not seem excessive? In the iPhone X we have the opposite situation, when the manufacturer tries to make it clear that the screen is bigger than it really is. The reason is banal, we needed parity with the Galaxy S8, in which the screen is 5.8 inches. And this parity was achieved due to an interesting trick: the diagonal of the screen is measured taking into account the cutout. But if you remove the cutout and parts of the screen above it (and that will be in most programs), then it turns out that the screen is 5.5 inches, and not 5.8 inches, as they say. Note also that the screen has rounded edges, both above and below.
The claimed aspect ratio is 19.5: 9, but we remove the cutout and get 18.5: 9, that is completely the same ratio as in the Samsung flagships. Why is this so? The answer lies in the fact that for such applications as video, for example, YouTube, this aspect ratio is more or less acceptable. In comparison with the iPhone 8, you get on the screen of the iPhone X about 10% more pictures when watching a video, but in programs (lists) it will already be a greater gain.
For me, it remains unclear how in Apple, where Jobs once drew attention to trifles, could shoot a camera so that the final result does not stretch over the entire screen. This is just one function that makes the user enjoyable, as he sees the picture on the whole screen. In the same Samsung you can simply choose the geometry of the image that is close to you. Here? And here in the iPhone X you have huge black stripes on the sides. And after that you want to say that someone at Apple thinks about the little things?
Do you want to be surprised again? For example, you know for sure that 5.8 inches is more than 5.5 inches, right? In fact, the screen in the iPhone 8 Plus is more approximately 5% of the area. Not God knows what's the difference, but it's noticeable - Plus is wider and smaller, while the iPhone X is higher. This is how entertaining mathematics turns out.
The cutout in the screen of the iPhone X is an attempt in the absence of technology and even a semblance of control over the supplier (Samsung in this case, well done, just got it and got super profits from old designs from Apple) to do something unique. I'm sure that Samsung twisted a finger at his temple, when Apple decided to stand out that way. No bent screens, because they are much more difficult to manufacture, no real advantages, but only a cutout. It is also called the eyebrow or beard.
This is an objectively stupid solution, as most developers will have to adapt their programs to the rounded screens of the iPhone X, as well as the cutout that is available in this unit. Sooner or later they will do it, but it's just a waste of time, as this cut-out does not make any sense. It's a game with numbers to get a big diagonal for less money and show that we have a big screen, not less than a direct competitor.
Just for comparison, Samsung's flagships have 3K screens with a resolution of 2960x1440 pixels, while the iPhone X has a 2K screen with a resolution of 2436x1125 pixels. It is clear that you can close your eyes to this and calculate the difference is insignificant. As well as count all other parameters of the screens are not as important as they could be.
With great pleasure I read how the screen is praised in the iPhone X, as it confirms the words written by me a couple of years ago that the screens in Galaxy S6 (all models of that brood) are different and outperform their time. The fact that in the iPhone X put their old version, it's good. As well as the fact that they added support for HDR for video (only for certain services for the US, it is useless in Russia).
And Apple regretted the extra $ 5 for adding AlwaysOn Display to its flagship, leaving, so to speak, space for "improvements" in the future. As well as there are no additional power-saving modes (transferring the screen to black and white), which is also very expensive for Apple.
A short conclusion is that it's the best screen among all iPhones, but it can not hold comparisons with real technological flagships of the market, it has lagged behind for several years. The cost of repairing the screen, if you break it, is 279 dollars in the USA (in Russia it is slightly less than 30 thousand rubles), additional insurance AppleCare + will cost you $ 199, then the screen will be replaced for $ 29 once. To beat this device is not necessary, it is too expensive.
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IPS LCD has the best viewing angles, OLED definitely has color **** when viewed from an angle.
i exactly think the same as this guyThe colors are supposed to be better on OLED, however I really dislike the TrueTone (too yellowish for my taste), and the viewing angles on the iPhone X are really disappointing. I didn't expect such a massive difference compared to the "old" IPS panels.
I should remind everyone that if there is stuff you don't like about the phone, it is FAR better to state them and talk about it than to hide it behind glowing praise that "the phone is AWESOME!"
The phone's flaws should NOT be hidden or downplayed. The only way Apple can improve their products is if we are vocal about the problems with it. Being blind fanboys is a fast path towards mediocrity.
I'm not even buying a new phone this year, so think of this as coming from a neutral perspective regarding the X.
The phone's flaws should NOT be hidden or downplayed. The only way Apple can improve their products is if we are vocal about the problems with it. Being blind fanboys is a fast path towards mediocrity.
I'm not even buying a new phone this year, so think of this as coming from a neutral perspective regarding the X.
After reading this some may change there minds, be happy with that older generation AMOLED display
Not really sure where you got the info of what version of OLED Apple got from Samsung and I certainly hope it is nothing like the Galaxy S6. From what I have read. Apple have presented it's own requirement of colour calibration and stuff, and I hope the colors are not over saturated like the ones on Galaxy phones. I do own Galaxy S8, lovely screen but that's all it is about it. Is going on eBay before it value falls even more.