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The "I'm waiting for an iMac refresh" thread

Hellhammer said:
ATI 4850 is a great card. Those who are whining don't know what they are talking about. GPU is irrelevant in photo editing and only helps in pro video editing.
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I've been doing some thinking and I'm really starting to lean towards the current 27" i7 iMac rather than waiting. On a daily basis I mostly use iPhoto, iTunes, mail, safari and Photoshop. I hardly ever use my Mac for gaming, but it would be nice to know if this iMac would be good for me over the next 2 to 3 years.

If the GPU wouldn't effect the apps I use everyday very much, I might be fine not waiting for the revision. What do you guys think? Am I better off waiting or will the current rev be enough?
 
whokilledkaji said:
I've been doing some thinking and I'm really starting to lean towards the current 27" i7 iMac rather than waiting. On a daily basis I mostly use iPhoto, iTunes, mail, safari and Photoshop. I hardly ever use my Mac for gaming, but it would be nice to know if this iMac would be good for me over the next 2 to 3 years.

If the GPU wouldn't effect the apps I use everyday very much, I might be fine not waiting for the revision. What do you guys think? Am I better off waiting or will the current rev be enough?
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Current gen seems to have all you need. ATI 4850 can play all games just fine. Maybe not at highest settings but it's still the same game. It's perfectly fine for 3 years, even longer. The apps you use won't even use the full power of iMac thus the GPU is irrelevant.

Note to all: Don't take my posts too seriously, I don't know more about what will it include and when it's happening thus make the decision whether to wait or not yourself. We never know what Apple does so this is just firing from the hip and don't blame me if I wasn't correct, I can't foresee the future ;)
 
Hellhammer said:
Current gen seems to have all you need. ATI 4850 can play all games just fine. Maybe not at highest settings but it's still the same game. It's perfectly fine for 3 years, even longer. The apps you use won't even use the full power of iMac thus the GPU is irrelevant.

Note to all: Don't take my posts too seriously, I don't know more about what will it include and when it's happening thus make the decision whether to wait or not yourself. We never know what Apple does so this is just firing from the hip and don't blame me if I wasn't correct, I can't foresee the future ;)
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the wise guru says it all :D :D :apple:
 
Hellhammer said:
All Macs run pretty cool actually. They just feel hot because aluminum is a conductor thus it's the main element of heat dissipation. It feels hotter than it is from inside. The cooling is very efficient as the heat dissipates through the whole case, no need for ugly holes.

I would be happy with 13" with i3 and IGP for cheaper price. I don't care about GPU because I don't game. Any GPU is just fine for most people and Apple has never showed interest of gamers. Mobility Radeons would fit perfectly in MBP but for some reason Apple has decided to use NVidia, maybe due the switching thing.

Apple is not stupid to keep high prices. People who pay the price are stupid (not meaning that anyone is stupid but if you're after specs then pay the premium or buy PC). As long as people buy them for current prices, Apple isn't decreasing them. Why would they? It's more profit per machine all the time
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apple says that you should keep your battery at about 35 degrees celciu max which is sad s my 2.53 ghz 9400m c2d can get to 50 celcius at load of 20%. i have to turn the fans on, get a cooler fans which ruins battery life ); its dissapointing how apple fails to give a good cooling solutions for computers like mine
 
peakchua said:
apple says that you should keep your battery at about 35 degrees celciu max
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Where does Apple say that? Battery gets hot when in use as electricity flows through it causing heat. All laptops run rather hot, especially when used on lap. 35 Celsius is very cool for laptop thus I doubt it's even possible to keep components below that.
 
I think the biggest problems for those new macbook pros is too much heat is being drawn towards the bottom of the shell since it's aluminum, and from there the heat can't be dissipated away from air, as the bottom is usually on a surface. A guy I know puts his macbook pro on bottle caps and he sees temps go down by quite a chunk.


As for the 1gig of vram in video cards, yeah I suppose it's nice for future proofing your purchase, as it provides a larger buffer for higher textures and anti-aliasing, but it would have been even nicer to see ati make mobile cards with higher memory bandwidth as well. As it stands, mobile 4850 has nice bandwidth for its role, and the new cards don't really improve upon that at all.
Starcraft2 recommends you to have a card of 1gig of vram for its highest textures and 512mb for its second highest textures, but I can switch to max textures and not take any hit in the fps department. (windows side of course, osx side is garbage)
 
tsmithgolf2000 said:
Well I imagine alot of this has to do with Apple's fiscal calendar. So if you notice they release the new iphone on June 21st, so that will give a big hit on Q3 earnings which is probably there slowest quarter. Q3 ends on June 26, so it's no big surprise the release of the iphone is 5 days before Q3 ends. snip..........

Q3-April 25 - June 26, 2010
Q4-June 27 - September 25, 2010
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Excellent point!~ except I think the iphone is released on the 24th so it's only 3 days of iphone sales for the quarter.

regards
JohnG
 
TMRaven said:
I think the biggest problems for those new macbook pros is too much heat is being drawn towards the bottom of the shell since it's aluminum, and from there the heat can't be dissipated away from air, as the bottom is usually on a surface. A guy I know puts his macbook pro on bottle caps and he sees temps go down by quite a chunk.
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I bought little rubber feet online to lift it a mm or two, same reason and same result.

ObThread: I'm waiting too, though my resolve is a crumbling a bit since I realized my parents want/need a new Mac for xmas. Now I'm starting to think buy this one now, buy a refresh later, give them this one...
 
Well, what can we expect in 21,5" advanced?

Summer is here, I have the money, and we don't have updates yet :mad:

I don't wanna wait till September :mad: (I really can't wait more to have the combo iMac + iPhone + iPod :D)

C'mon :apple:...
 
Hellhammer said:
...Note to all: Don't take my posts too seriously, I don't know more about what will it include and when it's happening thus make the decision whether to wait or not yourself. We never know what Apple does so this is just firing from the hip and don't blame me if I wasn't correct, I can't foresee the future ;)
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Hellhammer-I've been reading your posts/replies and just wanted to commend you on your insightful, rational, and fun to read responses. Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your comments (*said as I await for a 27 inch iMac refresh*).
 
TMRaven said:
I think the biggest problems for those new macbook pros is too much heat is being drawn towards the bottom of the shell since it's aluminum, and from there the heat can't be dissipated away from air, as the bottom is usually on a surface. A guy I know puts his macbook pro on bottle caps and he sees temps go down by quite a chunk.


As for the 1gig of vram in video cards, yeah I suppose it's nice for future proofing your purchase, as it provides a larger buffer for higher textures and anti-aliasing, but it would have been even nicer to see ati make mobile cards with higher memory bandwidth as well. As it stands, mobile 4850 has nice bandwidth for its role, and the new cards don't really improve upon that at all.
Starcraft2 recommends you to have a card of 1gig of vram for its highest textures and 512mb for its second highest textures, but I can switch to max textures and not take any hit in the fps department. (windows side of course, osx side is garbage)
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blame apple

at work they just ordered me a new laptop with a 5730 radeon with GDDR3 RAM. i looked at an ASUS laptop with a 5470 and GDDR5 RAM but decided to go with the faster graphics chip and slower graphics RAM. each one came with 1GB RAM.

looked at a new HP laptop as well with AMD in it but decided against it. just because my current laptop is HP and it's self destructing. ended up choosing an i3 CPU and a Radeon 5730 graphics card

i would have asked for a MacBook pro if they had one for $900, but i would get laughed at if i asked for a $1200 laptop. and the person who OK's it owns 2 ipads and prefers Apple over Microsoft
 
glen8 said:
Great idea for a thread.

This is my first post so I'd like to say Hi to the Mac community. I'm a PC user, been a sys admin for the past 10 years but due to various personal changes in my home life I'm ditching the family PC computer in favor of a new iMac. Really don't want to bring my work home with me and when I do sit infront of a computer at home I just want to be able to do what I want to do on it.

I've been looking at the 21.5" and 27" iMacs and think I'll be waiting for the refresh. I'd really like to see the following:-

Reintroduction of the 24" model. Personally I find the 21.5" too small, but the 27" too big.

Intel Clarkdale i3 and i5 processors. I'm really not sure who these iMacs are supposed to be aimed at but I originally thought the i stood for Internet. The original iMac was aimed at those consumers wanting fast and easy access onto the Internet. That said, do we really need i7 processors and high end graphics cards? Which leads me onto my next point

ATi Radeon 5000 series GPUs. I'm not sure if apple should be including mid to high end GPUs as gaming (IMHO) is moving away from the PC and going more and more towards consoles. If you want to play games, buy a console! Apple should use GPUs to compliment their software for OS/APP hardware acceleration in video encoding, desktop and browser acceleration etc etc..That's my opinion anyway, I'm sure there's many iMac users who enjoy gaming.

eSata and USB3.0 connectivity. USB2 backups HDDs are too slow.

2 x 3.5" HDD bays. It would be great to have the option of a second internal HDD for storage. Keep HDD1 for the OS/Apps and store your media on HDD2. I'd prefer this option over an external. That's if the iMac has room for an additional disk in its casing. If they can, perhaps a Raid0/Raid1 option although maybe Apple feel that's only for the PowerMac range.

My next two I'm really on the wall with....SSD and Blu-Ray. I've owned an SSD drive and IMHO it's not worth the price to storage/performance ratio. Maybe they can at least offer it as an option though? Blu-Ray is fantastic for optical storage. I'm not keen on watching Blu-Ray movies on a computer. That's what I have a 42" Plasma for in the living room for. However, for storage it would be great. I have 23gb of photos I'd like to backup and not keen on just keeping them on a backup HDD incase that fails!! DVD-9 is not enough anymore. again...maybe include it as an option?
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Well, if you look into it, the "i" stood for many things. Instruct, inspire, inform, Internet (proper noun). But at the end of the day? Just a catch phrase.
 
MathijsDelva said:
New Mac Mini, but no new iMac.. Let's play the waiting game
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I do believe I'am in a bag of hurt for the new mini comes the long awaited hdmi and graphics bump my imac is still on order i got a gut feeling hdmi will be included in the imac with a graphics bump as for a redesign its fairly possible that the imac my be thinned down.

I still doubt on blu ray but with hdmi output who needs it, than again apple will include blu ray we have to wait to see what the next osx has install
 
with the new design and cooling made by apple and the unibody design, it would be ok thicker :( but the specs should have been higher e.g. 2.8 c2d (i3 with igp wouldnt work though i would love it)
 
This really comes true now!! HDMI on mac mini!!!!! I will keep playing this waiting game w/ Apple ... looking forward to see HDMI on new imac as well =D
 
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