Have you heard any timeline for the update?It's there, just the update that uses the new iOS 10 CallKit isn't out yet.
Have you heard any timeline for the update?It's there, just the update that uses the new iOS 10 CallKit isn't out yet.
Just that it's coming in the next update: https://blog.truecaller.com/2016/09...s-10-bring-spam-identification-to-the-masses/Have you heard any timeline for the update?
Just that it's coming in the next update: https://blog.truecaller.com/2016/09...s-10-bring-spam-identification-to-the-masses/
Have you heard any timeline for the update?
Hey!
Kamran here, from Truecaller support.
...feel free to ask any questions.
Have an great day!
Kamran Mamedi
That's a shame. I suppose the parallel is closer to safari content blocking, another 64 bit only featureLooks like this feature isn't available on the iPhone 5 like Rich Notifications. Just downloaded Hiya and I'm not seeing the app being listed under Phone > Call Blocking & Identification.
Looks like this feature isn't available on the iPhone 5 like Rich Notifications. Just downloaded Hiya and I'm not seeing the app being listed under Phone > Call Blocking & Identification.
what does this have to do with the quoted post- are you saying callkit blocking/identification in your app does work on iphone 5?Hi,
We have a version ready and soon to be released on Appstore within the coming days. CallKit is included as well.
Read more at:
https://blog.truecaller.com/2016/09...s-10-bring-spam-identification-to-the-masses/
Best,
Kamran @ Truecaller.com
Giving the current Truecaller app access to contacts is a huge Pita. It keeps creating duplicate contacts by the dozen. I now have about 20 entries on myself and deleting them doesnt help. They just re-emerge.
Do all of these work by uploading your contacts to their database? I've always resisted truecaller because of this, just too creepy for me.
Good morning,
I am not quite following. Are you referring to the contact "Identified as spam"? If yes, then we will not create that contact whenever you enable spam filter in iOS10.
If this is not hte case then please share me some screenshots of the issue and i will follop us asap.
Best,
Kamran
I dont thing you should be concerned about security, but possibly privacy as these apps are uploading your contact list to their database. Only you can determine how much of a concern that is.What are the security issues one should consider before using this type of app?
What are the security issues one should consider before using this type of app?
The big thing for me is that you are completely giving them all your contact information to upload. That means name, phone, email, address, literally anything you have typed into your contact will be uploaded. This is too far of a privacy issue for me. There are caller lists which they can use to block calls, there is no need for them to access my contacts. There should at least be an option to opt out of this. How do we know they don't secretly data mine? I can't see how anyone could resist millions and millions of user data like that.
Hi,
We do not sell our database to other companies, it's strictly private.
Two example of why we require contact access
- If you want to save a number identified by Truecaller then contacts access must be granted.
- If you wish to be protected from Spammers.
Thank you,
Kamran
So for Number lookup only (no spam protection), you can opt out right?
Facebook also adds contacts to my contact list, and sometimes this results in duplicate contacts because Ive already stored the contact already. Merging a Facebook contact with an iOS contact works fine, and leaves just one merged contact in the list.
After having granted true caller access to my contacts, this behaviour seizes to work. and after I merge two contacts, Ill end up with a merged contact and the original one (still two contacts). This must surely be a bug.
Hi,
We do not sell our database to other companies, it's strictly private.
Two example of why we require contact access
- If you want to save a number identified by Truecaller then contacts access must be granted.
- If you wish to be protected from Spammers.
Thank you,
Kamran
So for Number lookup only (no spam protection), you can opt out right?
Facebook also adds contacts to my contact list, and sometimes this results in duplicate contacts because Ive already stored the contact already. Merging a Facebook contact with an iOS contact works fine, and leaves just one merged contact in the list.
After having granted true caller access to my contacts, this behaviour seizes to work. and after I merge two contacts, Ill end up with a merged contact and the original one (still two contacts). This must surely be a bug.
Thanks, but in all honesty I have very little trust towards data mining these days. I can't tell you the amount of times a company has promised to not share my information, but they do.
From what I understand you don't need access to my contacts in order to block spam calls, can a developer chime in here? Don't you basically compare the incoming call to a database? Why would you need access to my contacts? Really it should be the users choice to upload their contacts or not, it shouldn't be mandatory. What will probably happen is Apple will release their own call blocking software without requiring you upload all your contacts and you guys will be out of business overnight. I wonder if you guys might not also hit some legal issues in the future as well. After all, whatever contact I'm uploading to you has not given permission to do so. Would that contact have legal recourse against myself or your company? I don't know, I'm not an attorney, but still interesting to consider.
I don't mean to sound like I'm ranting on you guys, I appreciate the app and all the hard work. It's just that in this day and age of privacy concerns giving you every single shred of information on all my contacts is just way too large of a privacy intrusion and security risk. If I suddenly found my address and phone numbers on someones list I'd be very pissed at whatever contact of mine uploaded that info.
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Nope, no opt out at all. If you don't give up your contacts you cannot use the app at all.
Thanks, but in all honesty I have very little trust towards data mining these days. I can't tell you the amount of times a company has promised to not share my information, but they do.
From what I understand you don't need access to my contacts in order to block spam calls, can a developer chime in here? Don't you basically compare the incoming call to a database? Why would you need access to my contacts? Really it should be the users choice to upload their contacts or not, it shouldn't be mandatory. What will probably happen is Apple will release their own call blocking software without requiring you upload all your contacts and you guys will be out of business overnight. I wonder if you guys might not also hit some legal issues in the future as well. After all, whatever contact I'm uploading to you has not given permission to do so. Would that contact have legal recourse against myself or your company? I don't know, I'm not an attorney, but still interesting to consider.
I don't mean to sound like I'm ranting on you guys, I appreciate the app and all the hard work. It's just that in this day and age of privacy concerns giving you every single shred of information on all my contacts is just way too large of a privacy intrusion and security risk. If I suddenly found my address and phone numbers on someones list I'd be very pissed at whatever contact of mine uploaded that info.
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You will not be protected from spammers if you don't allow contact access but manual search will work.
Prior to iOS10 the only way for us to identify spammers for you was to create a contact with all spammers in it (identified as spam) which means we had to ask for contact access. However, in the upcoming iOS10 we're using the latest iOS CallKit API which will work even without contact access. You will still have the option to grant contact access for other core functionalities to work but it will not be mandatory for spam identification.
I hope this answers your questions. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need further assistance.
Best,
Kamran
what does this have to do with the quoted post- are you saying callkit blocking/identification in your app does work on iphone 5?
edit: reading elsewhere it does seem very much a 64 bit only extension
can you comment on how well your app works in UK? (for devices that support callkit)
you're lying or have your facts wrong. callkit blocking is not supported on iphone 5, as it's a 64 bit extension and iphone 5 is only 32 bit.Hi,
Yes, it works like a charm on iPhone 5.
Truecaller is global and have in fact extremt high hitrate in blocking spam calls, internationally. We have an great blog post about that. I recommend that you read it. Feel free to ask for further questions.
Have a nice evening,
Kamran
https://blog.truecaller.com/2016/09...s-10-bring-spam-identification-to-the-masses/