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C DM

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Anyone else notice "Block Sender/Caller" is removed from iMessages when you go into their info or clicking on their photo? Why in the world would they remove this.
It's still there, but weirdly hidden: you have to tap on the blue 'i' in a circle button and then on the details page tap on the person's name or phone number which will take you to the info page that has the block option when you scroll to the bottom of it.
 

GreyOS

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He is talking about a pending release, not the current version.
yes, we are talking about the callkit blocking in the pending release. the framework is 64 bit only so won't be on iphone 5. the app may still block through the old way of creating contacts etc. but not with the new ios 10 feature.

kwokaaron was referring to OTHER apps which have already updated with this feature- they don't work on iphone 5.
 

C DM

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you're lying or have your facts wrong. callkit blocking is not supported on iphone 5, as it's a 64 bit extension and iphone 5 is only 32 bit.
Is all of this documented somewhere (as in which devices support or don't support certain pieces)? Nothing about it seems to be mentioned in the fine print at the bottom of Apple's iOS 10 page (where things of that nature are usually called out): http://www.apple.com/ios/ios-10/ Can't say I've come across anything else that documents it or provides more information about it, beyond basically what some posters have posted in various threads.
 
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Is all of this documented somewhere (as in which devices support or don't support certain pieces)? Nothing about it seems to be mentioned in the fine print at the bottom of Apple's iOS 10 page (where things of that nature are usually called out): http://www.apple.com/ios/ios-10/ Can't say I've come across anything else that documents it or provides more information about it, beyond basically what some posters have posted in various threads.

not direct from apple but good enough for me
http://iphoneramble.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/ios-10-callkit-directory-extension.html?m=1

other evidence is that i installed the latest hiya on my iphone 6 and my partner's iphone 5. only mine allows shows hiya in call blocking in the phone settings. enough proof for me.
 

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Is all of this documented somewhere (as in which devices support or don't support certain pieces)? Nothing about it seems to be mentioned in the fine print at the bottom of Apple's iOS 10 page (where things of that nature are usually called out): http://www.apple.com/ios/ios-10/ Can't say I've come across anything else that documents it or provides more information about it, beyond basically what some posters have posted in various threads.

not direct from apple but good enough for me
http://iphoneramble.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/ios-10-callkit-directory-extension.html?m=1

other evidence is that i installed the latest hiya on my iphone 6 and my partner's iphone 5. only mine allows shows hiya in call blocking in the phone settings. enough proof for me.

Good morning,

We did a complete test specifically for iPhone 5 and it works perfectly. So my facts are true fortunately.

It's out soon! :)

Best regards,
Kamran

Thats great news. The wait is killing me.

Nah, don't believe it.

Further evidence, in addition to the dev blog above and the fact Hiya doesn't support it, is yet another app only supports it on 64 bit. There's no reason a developer would do this purposely unless it was a restriction from Apple.

https://callblockapp.com/

"Callblock is available for iOS 10 (on 64-bit devices, iPhone 5s and up and iPad mini 2 and up)."

I'll have no problem coming back and admitting I was wrong if the app comes out and works on iPhone 5 (specifically, the new iOS 10 call blocking and identification extension).... But I will remain firmly skeptical until then.
 
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kamranmamedi

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Nah, don't believe it.

Further evidence, in addition to the dev blog above and the fact Hiya doesn't support it, is yet another app only supports it on 64 bit. There's no reason a developer would do this purposely unless it was a restriction from Apple.

https://callblockapp.com/

"Callblock is available for iOS 10 (on 64-bit devices, iPhone 5s and up and iPad mini 2 and up)."

I'll have no problem coming back and admitting I was wrong if the app comes out and works on iPhone 5 (specifically, the new iOS 10 call blocking and identification extension).... But I will remain firmly skeptical until then.

Hey,

Thank you for your reply!

I'll post a reply here when we released it so you can see for yourself :)

Talk to you later.

-Kamran
 

C DM

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not direct from apple but good enough for me
http://iphoneramble.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/ios-10-callkit-directory-extension.html?m=1

other evidence is that i installed the latest hiya on my iphone 6 and my partner's iphone 5. only mine allows shows hiya in call blocking in the phone settings. enough proof for me.
Does the 5 even have the Call Blocking & Identification section in Phone settings? What shows up there, just information relating to blocking contacts, but no mention of anything else (relating to apps or caller ID or anything like that)?
 

GreyOS

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Does the 5 even have the Call Blocking & Identification section in Phone settings? What shows up there, just information relating to blocking contacts, but no mention of anything else (relating to apps or caller ID or anything like that)?
exactly.
 

madmak

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Here is the image from Xcode - see the highlighted portion.

callExtension_1.jpeg
 

Ballis

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Yea. Im running the Groundwire SIP client with call Kit right now. (They put me on TestFlight) SIP never worked better. I love it.

Glad to see others embrace Call Kit.
 

kwokaaron

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Just to clarify about my previous comments, CallKit itself works fine (aka. incoming calls displayed like a native phone call on the screen). It's the call blocking/identification feature which doesn't seem to be supported on the iPhone 5. I think what kamranmamedi meant when he said that it works might be that the app literally opens/works. Not very useful for me if that's the case.
 

madmak

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iOS 10.0.2 fixes the blocking issues. So call blocking (and auto blocking for spam/scam calls) now works with Hiya if you upgrade your iOS to latest version.
 
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Ballis

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Hiya works for me but their phone number database is very limited compared to Truecaller, which renders it pretty much useless where I live. Occasionally it will ID a phone number for me, but not very often.

True caller however will ID anything I throw at it, but unfortunately the Call Kit integration seems to take forever.
 

Anijake

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I have 10.02 installed and the latest Hiya, I have it set to block calls, but when I get a SPAM call I see that Hiya displays SPAM or Fraud on the ring screen, but since I have it set to block should it not even ring? Mine still rings.
 
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