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C DM

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Notifications go missing from the Notification Centre. Notifications for new mails dont appear on the NC. If at all they show, they disappear within seconds.
It starts happening when we clear the notifications once by clicking Clear button at the top right of the Notification Centre.
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I have logged on bug portal, wherein Apple has stated it is duplicate of another bug. So its a known issue.
The notifications also disappear from NC whenever I open the mail app.
This is only for Mail or other notifications as well?
 

uandme72

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This is only for Mail or other notifications as well?
Mail.
for mail, all types of notifications are corrupted.
I have restored the iPhone as new, DFU mode iOS install- problem recurs as soon as you clear the notifications from NC once.
Reset all settings does not solve the problem.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
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Mail.
for mail, all types of notifications are corrupted.
I have restored the iPhone as new, DFU mode iOS install- problem recurs as soon as you clear the notifications from NC once.
Reset all settings does not solve the problem.
So just Mail notifications are affected in your case, right? You seem to say that but then you say "all types of notifications" which kind of makes it seem different.

Seems like https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-10-3-beta-7-changes-bug-fixes-and-enhancements.2037301/ is probbaly more appropriate for this kind of discussion.
 

sbailey4

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Notifications go missing from the Notification Centre. Notifications for new mails dont appear on the NC. If at all they show, they disappear within seconds.
It starts happening when we clear the notifications once by clicking Clear button at the top right of the Notification Centre.
[doublepost=1490120115][/doublepost]
I have logged on bug portal, wherein Apple has stated it is duplicate of another bug. So its a known issue.
The notifications also disappear from NC whenever I open the mail app.
That sounds like a feature to me. Why would you want old mail sitting in notifications?
 

uandme72

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That sounds like a feature to me. Why would you want old mail sitting in notifications?
I said it disappears upon opening mail app, not the mail itself.
Its like opening the mail app without clicking on any mail, then just closing the mail app by pressing home button. This act itself makes the notifications vanish from NC.
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I said it disappears upon opening mail app, not the mail itself.
Its like opening the mail app without clicking on any mail, then just closing the mail app by pressing home button. This act itself makes the notifications vanish from NC.
For information of all- I installed 10.2.1, and repeated the steps which were causing the missing notifications on 10.3 betas. I found that the errors occurred on 10.2.1 as well.
So no point in staying with 10.2.1.
 

sbailey4

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I said it disappears upon opening mail app, not the mail itself.
Its like opening the mail app without clicking on any mail, then just closing the mail app by pressing home button. This act itself makes the notifications vanish from NC.
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For information of all- I installed 10.2.1, and repeated the steps which were causing the missing notifications on 10.3 betas. I found that the errors occurred on 10.2.1 as well.
So no point in staying with 10.2.1.
Thanks for the update regarding 10.2.1, but still question is why would you open the mail app and close it without looking at the mail that you saw in notifications that you needed to see? Seems counterproductive to me. I would HOPE that the notifications would automatically go away once I opened the mail to read them. Seems like a step saver actually. Perhaps this is not a bug but a feature.
 
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uandme72

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Thanks for the update regarding 10.2.1, but still question is why would you open the mail app and close it without looking at the mail that you saw in notifications that you needed to see? Seems counterproductive to me. I would HOPE that the notifications would automatically go away once I opened the mail to read them. Seems like a step saver actually. Perhaps this is not a bug but a feature.
Its not a feature.
If you install iOS afresh without restore from backup and then dont click clear at the top of the NC, the mail notifications continue to appear continuously irrespective of the number of times you open/ close the mail app.
This is a bug because you are not expected to be able to read all notifications at once any time. And all notifications vanish at once when you open the mail app, irrespective of the number of mails you can see in one go.
 
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atlchamp

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New version of iTunes just dropped hinting that the new rent across devices feature only works with 10.3 so that means that the final version may be released sooner rather than later. Would it be surprising to see a final release tomorrow or Thursday before the color iPhone and new iPads release on Friday?
 

Mlrollin91

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Nov 20, 2008
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New version of iTunes just dropped hinting that the new rent across devices feature only works with 10.3 so that means that the final version may be released sooner rather than later. Would it be surprising to see a final release tomorrow or Thursday before the color iPhone and new iPads release on Friday?

It would still have to be an entirely new build number. I still expect one more beta release to remove the beta build number components.
 

atlchamp

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It would still have to be an entirely new build number. I still expect one more beta release to remove the beta build number components.
That's what I'm thinking too but this release is so weird. That would mean we are at least 2 weeks away from a final release
 

C DM

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It would still have to be an entirely new build number. I still expect one more beta release to remove the beta build number components.
Have they always had the last beta be the GM essentially? I've been under the impression that there have been times (and more than rarely) where the GM was basically a slightly newer build than whatever the last beta for that release was.
 
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Mlrollin91

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Have they always had the last beta be the GM essentially? I've been under the impression that there have been times (and more than rarely) where the GM was basically a slightly newer build than whatever the last beta for that release was.

No, this never use to be the norm, at least up until iOS 9.2. Pretty much every single build since then, the final beta was the public release. So about 16 months now it has been this way. So they may revert to old habits, but Apple has treated all post-9.2 different compared to pre-9.2.
 

sbailey4

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New version of iTunes just dropped hinting that the new rent across devices feature only works with 10.3 so that means that the final version may be released sooner rather than later. Would it be surprising to see a final release tomorrow or Thursday before the color iPhone and new iPads release on Friday?
I wouldn't be surprised to see a release Wed or even Thursday. There have been several Thursday iOS releases in the past. Doubtful Friday unless a beta but I am thinking beta is finished since the other devices got one Monday and not iOS.
 
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Mlrollin91

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I wouldn't be surprised to see a release Wed or even Thursday. There have been several Thursday iOS releases in the past. Doubtful Friday unless a beta but I am thinking beta is finished since the other devices got one Monday and not iOS.

But I doubt they are going to release watchOS and macOS final this week. I still predict beta this week and final for everything on Monday.
 

dreadlord

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The iTunes update has changed my mind. If there will be one more beta, it will happen tomorrow or on Thursday, then the public release will be on Monday. If there won't be any beta, then the public release will be tomorrow or on Thursday.
 

gwang73

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Xcode 8.3 beta 5 was just released with build number 8E161 and without the beta tag in the application. I think we're getting 10.3 final this week with a new build number.
 
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dan9700

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No beta 8 its final next and soon cos of itunes update so any day now final just hope beta 7 isnt gm they have had betas with letter be final before
 
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gwhizkids

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Xcode 8.3 beta 5 was just released with build number 8E161 and without the beta tag in the application. I think we're getting 10.3 final this week with a new build number.

Agree. All the OSes are moving to final. Watch OS beta 7 may be GM.

If we've learned ANYTHING this year it is that we can never use "Apple never does X" as an argument for what they will or will not do next. They have consistently broken the mold with software and hardware releases this year. For our law school friend, this is a good lesson in the inappropriate application of a priori logic.
 
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Mlrollin91

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Agree. All the OSes are moving to final. Watch OS beta 7 may be GM.

If we've learned ANYTHING this year it is that we can never use "Apple never does X" as an argument for what they will or will not do next. They have consistently broken the mold with software and hardware releases this year. For our law school friend, this is a good lesson in the inappropriate application of a priori logic.

I think you are misinterpreting my stance. Everything that I have stated this week is based on the new mold of Apple, not the past mold. I'm very careful not to make the logical fallacy of "problem of induction". But this new mold of Apple has been consistent for 16 months now. So even though past events do not predict future events, we are able to make a more accurate educated guess.

For the record, watchOS 3.2 B7 has a beta build number and therefore will not be the GM. There will be either a beta 8 to remove the beta build or there will be a final that removes them.
 

mattburley7

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im thinking we are getting the final today that removes the beta build for iOS 10.3, watchOS 3.2 and macOS 10.12.4.

if you go off iOS 10.2 we saw iTunes 12.5.4 released the day after iOS 10.2 was released.
 
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Mlrollin91

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im thinking we are getting the final today that removes the beta build

for iOS 10.3, watchOS 3.2 and macOS 10.12.4.. based on them releasing iTunes 12.6 yesterday that supports the iOS 10.3 update.

if you go off iOS 10.2 we saw iTunes 12.5.4 released the day after iOS 10.2 was released.

Don't you think its odd for them to release a new macOS and watchOS beta 2 days before releasing to the public? If they were GMs sure, I would agree with you, but because at a minimum watchOS is still a beta build, I just think its odd. Apple has never done that in the history of iOS/watchOS. So there is no precedent for it. Why wouldn't they just wait the 2 days to drop the final? Not like there was a massive critical bug that needed to be fixed. Or, give the developers the GM 2 days before the final. It just doesn't add up.
 
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