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Mlrollin91

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tvOS is a final release (build: 14W585)
ispw.me is showing beta?
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[doublepost=1493917251][/doublepost]I have no watchOS update. I think its beta.
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https://twitter.com/iOSReleases/status/860173868006342657

Says Pre-release for the same build. I think they jumped the gun on the Public Release post.
[doublepost=1493917587][/doublepost]I have checked all news sites. No one is reporting anything. Can anyone with a 4th gen ATV verify? There is no update to watch. That I know.
 

Mlrollin91

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I have no idea what is happening. That twitter account has been pretty steady about releases for iOS, tvOS and watchOS - beta and final releases..

Looks like they goofed today. The fact that they sent the first tweet at 9:46AM signals something is off. That is fairly early.
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Ok.
I thought I have missed something.
[doublepost=1493916759][/doublepost]Watch OS released.
Where do you see watchOS released?

There is nothing that states this anywhere, not even the iOSRelease Twitter account.
 

uandme72

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Looks like they goofed today. The fact that they sent the first tweet at 9:46AM signals something is off. That is fairly early.
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Where do you see watchOS released?

There is nothing that states this anywhere, not even the iOSRelease Twitter account.
It said
#iOS 10.2.1 (14W585) OTA has been released for 1 device.
 

Mlrollin91

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It said
#iOS 10.2.1 (14W585) OTA has been released for 1 device.

Thats not watchOS thats AppleTV. watchOS is not at 10.x.x.

The twitter account obviously goofed. There is nothing that has been released, definitely not watchOS.
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Well there has been releases within the 15minutes before/after 10:00am PT in the past.
Yeah but at the same time they said the same build was Pre-Release and Public Release. Two posts, seconds apart.
[doublepost=1493918089][/doublepost]MacRumors is reporting Beta 5 of Apple TV.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/04/apple-seeds-tvos-10-2-1-beta-5-to-developers/

So nothing to see here iOS related.
 

sunny2k1

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uandme72

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Thats not watchOS thats AppleTV. watchOS is not at 10.x.x.

The twitter account obviously goofed. There is nothing that has been released, definitely not watchOS.
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Yeah but at the same time they said the same build was Pre-Release and Public Release. Two posts, seconds apart.
[doublepost=1493918089][/doublepost]MacRumors is reporting Beta 5 of Apple TV.

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/04/apple-seeds-tvos-10-2-1-beta-5-to-developers/

So nothing to see here iOS related.
but does this suggest a relaese for ios on monday?
 

Mlrollin91

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but does this suggest a relaese for ios on monday?

Not necessarily. At this point, Apple is not sticking to a schedule. Betas have now been completely split up. macOS B5 came 3 days after iOS B5. ATV B5 came 7 days after iOS. Meanwhile watchOS is still on B4.

We won't see a Public release until all beta OS versions are complete.
 

Mlrollin91

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We have beta 5 for iOS, macOS and tvOS. But watchOS is still on beta 4...

Yep. We may get another Beta for watchOS or we may not. I believe Beta 4 is still a beta number.

The only non-beta build number is for AppleTV.
 

uandme72

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You just said they are now in sync, that would insinuate that tvOS is a main one and watchOS isn't. They are all equally important.
this would mean that the syncing requires one more beta of watchos.
[doublepost=1493918876][/doublepost]that would further imply that no release is happening even next week.
 

Mlrollin91

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this would mean that the syncing requires one more beta of watchos.
[doublepost=1493918876][/doublepost]that would further imply that no release is happening even next week.

Because a watchOS beta couldn't come out tomorrow? Beta 5's have been completely scattered. I am not saying there will be a watchOS beta 5. I am merely stating that you cannot say one is more important than the other. You cannot use the release of tvOS beta 5 today as a way to say they are in sync and we will see final release next week.

I still believe we will see final release next week, but you are making assumptions from claims that are meaningless.
 

uandme72

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Because a watchOS beta couldn't come out tomorrow? Beta 5's have been completely scattered. I am not saying there will be a watchOS beta 5. I am merely stating that you cannot say one is more important than the other. You cannot use the release of tvOS beta 5 today as a way to say they are in sync and we will see final release next week.

I still believe we will see final release next week, but you are making assumptions from claims that are meaningless.
I may also question the basis of your belief!
Except for some comparisons and vague analogies, there is nothing to buttress your assumptions.
 

Mlrollin91

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I may also question the basis of your belief!
Except for some comparisons and vague analogies, there is nothing to buttress your assumptions.
Not entirely following your point. I am merely making a strongly educated prediction based on years of history. Also just pointing out that one OS is not anymore important than another. All 4 are equal at this point of day in age. They are intertwined.
 

uandme72

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Not entirely following your point. I am merely making a strongly educated prediction based on years of history. Also just pointing out that one OS is not anymore important than another. All 4 are equal at this point of day in age. They are intertwined.
They may be.
Yet if what you say is right and an educated guess after years of history, then an educated guess would indicate towards one more beta of watchos.
Till a beta 5 of watchos happens, nothing will come out as public release.
 

Mlrollin91

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They may be.
Yet if what you say is right and an educated guess after years of history, then an educated guess would indicate towards one more beta of watchos.
Till a beta 5 of watchos happens, nothing will come out as public release.

Again not necessarily true. Past has shown that sometimes watchOS gets fewer betas but the build number from the final beta to the public changes. Meaning they typically don't seed the final as a beta but only for public.

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They may be.
Yet if what you say is right and an educated guess after years of history, then an educated guess would indicate towards one more beta of watchos.
Till a beta 5 of watchos happens, nothing will come out as public release.
I'm beginning to think that the issue between my interpretation and yours is, that you believe it's cut and dry and I don't. I believe it's an ever changing system based on past. While I get the impression you believe it's cut and dry based on past.
 
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