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uandme72

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Front page shows it. This twitter account is not directly tied to Apple. Just because it doesn't show, doesn't mean its not true. They had problems a few weeks ago claiming tvOS was final release, when it was beta. I wouldn't trust it.
So the final release expected on 05 june?
 

Mlrollin91

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But then you will contradict yourself.
Two betas concurrently?
Who said another beta of 10.3.3 will come out? Look at 8.4/9. 8.4 was in beta until June 30th, but a new beta did not come out after 9.0 beta 1.

And I already admitted I was wrong previously because 9.3.3 was in beta the same time as iOS 10. I didn't know that because I was already on iOS 10. Which proves my point that it is entirely pointless to test previous betas when a new X.0 is out because everyone is already on iOS X.0 that is going to test a beta.
 

Evelyn Harthbrooke

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In order to get developer betas, yes, you need to pay $99 a year.

If you still want to run betas, but are willing to wait until they hit the Public Beta Channel, you can register here:https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/

These typically come out the same week as X.x.x builds, but X.0 builds usually not for 4-6 weeks after the first developer build.
[doublepost=1496164627][/doublepost]Rather interesting that there are no macOS or tvOS updates..
Regarding iOS 11 beta 1, will that be an OTA or will that just be an IPSW?
 
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uandme72

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Who said another beta of 10.3.3 will come out? Look at 8.4/9. 8.4 was in beta until June 30th, but a new beta did not come out after 9.0 beta 1.

And I already admitted I was wrong previously because 9.3.3 was in beta the same time as iOS 10. I didn't know that because I was already on iOS 10. Which proves my point that it is entirely pointless to test previous betas when a new X.0 is out because everyone is already on iOS X.0 that is going to test a beta.

If final 10.3.3 is not released on 5, yet 11 beta 1 is released, then you have two concurrent betas on 5 june.
 

Mlrollin91

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Oh yeah, regarding iOS 11 beta 1, will that be an OTA or will that just be an IPSW?


Talking about downloading beta profiles illegally is against the terms and conditions of this forum. I strongly recommend you don't do that again in the future.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...of-software-without-a-proper-license.1977233/
(This includes mentioning ways to find the profile without a proper license).

iOS 11 will probably be both OTA and IPSW, but will require a new beta profile (if its like years before).

PS. I removed what you said from the quote, I recommend doing so from your post so it doesn't get reported.
 

Mlrollin91

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Also beta 2 is only 9 points over beta 1.
That implies its the last beta for 10.3.3.
The build number has a "b" tho, so it means this build was sent back for additional changes. 9 Points is a substantial build number change. I've seen a 3 point build number change and the final still was a few betas away. Its only a large number because it was 2 weeks since the last build. Don't read too much into it. It doesn't imply anything.
 

C DM

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Who said another beta of 10.3.3 will come out? Look at 8.4/9. 8.4 was in beta until June 30th, but a new beta did not come out after 9.0 beta 1.

And I already admitted I was wrong previously because 9.3.3 was in beta the same time as iOS 10. I didn't know that because I was already on iOS 10. Which proves my point that it is entirely pointless to test previous betas when a new X.0 is out because everyone is already on iOS X.0 that is going to test a beta.
Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely pointless. While there are certainly many that make the jump right away to the next available version, there are more than likely various developers and other users who still stay on the beta for the current version (for various reasons, or perhaps no particular reason) until its wrapped up.
 

sbailey4

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Anyone with iphone 6/6s can do benchmark? Since ios 10.3 i have 50% of cpu power. Its probably because their battery fix. I had no problems on 9.3.5 :(

GeekBench 3
10.3.3 Beta 1
2534 / 4408
14G5028a

10.3.3 Beta 2
2532 /4407 *2532 /4414 (* after fresh reboot then running it)
14G5037b


Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely pointless. While there are certainly many that make the jump right away to the next available version, there are more than likely various developers and other users who still stay on the beta for the current version (for various reasons, or perhaps no particular reason) until its wrapped up.
Not to mention the public testers testing 10.x.x and the 11.0 beta will most likely not be available to PB testers until about DP 3-4 which will be several weeks out.
 
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Mlrollin91

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Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely pointless. While there are certainly many that make the jump right away to the next available version, there are more than likely various developers and other users who still stay on the beta for the current version (for various reasons, or perhaps no particular reason) until its wrapped up.
But think about it logically. Those that are testing apps would have already updated to 10.0 before the next iOS 9.3.3 beta was seeded. Therefore, they aren't going to downgrade to go back to 9.3.3. They want all the time possible to make their apps compatible with iOS 10.
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Not to mention the public testers testing 10.x.x and the 11.0 beta will most likely not be available to PB testers until about DP 3-4 which will be several weeks out.
Well last year, PB 1 came with DP 2.
 

sbailey4

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But think about it logically. Those that are testing apps would have already updated to 10.0 before the next iOS 9.3.3 beta was seeded. Therefore, they aren't going to downgrade to go back to 9.3.3. They want all the time possible to make their apps compatible with iOS 10.
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Well last year, PB 1 came with DP 2.
Also the x.x.X versions are typically bug fix versions and developers may not necessarily need to test their apps since no new API's and such but beta testing for any new issues or installation issues could certainly be worth doing before a full public release. I suspect not all developers will immediately start working on a beta 1 of the new version but rather may wait until its a bit more baked before they start.
 

C DM

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But think about it logically. Those that are testing apps would have already updated to 10.0 before the next iOS 9.3.3 beta was seeded. Therefore, they aren't going to downgrade to go back to 9.3.3. They want all the time possible to make their apps compatible with iOS 10.
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Well last year, PB 1 came with DP 2.
Seems like various developers would still interested in the current version until the new one is actually publicly released, and more than likely there are other even non-developers that stay on the current betas for at least a while longer before going for the new version. Some replies related to this from the front page thread where this came up:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-10-3-3-to-developers.2047755/#post-24620953
Developers will. They need to make sure their apps run well on this when it gets released to the public.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-10-3-3-to-developers.2047755/#post-24621017
Clearly not a developer. We will be testing this, as our users will be on iOS 10 until late September.
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Also the x.x.X versions are typically bug fix versions and developers may not necessarily need to test their apps since no new API's and such but beta testing for any new issues or installation issues could certainly be worth doing before a full public release. I suspect not all developers will immediately start working on a beta 1 of the new version but rather may wait until its a bit more baked before they start.
There's certainly that as well. In addition, some will potentially start working on parallel tracks of making sure the latest betas for the current iOS version are working well with their app(s), just as they would be looking at how things behave with the betas for the new iOS version.
 
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sbailey4

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I'm new to IOS Betas...and I have a question..
Do I need to pay money in order to receive Developer Betas? It is true?
I mean,do I need to enroll intro Apple Developer Program no?
The public beta version is now out as well. Same build as the dev version that was released earlier today. You can enroll there free as @Mlrollin91 mentioned.
 
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Math889

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My prediction

June 5: IOS 11 beta 1
iOS 10.3.3 beta 3 or iOS 10.3.3 public .

That's it folks !
 

C DM

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Also beta 2 is only 9 points over beta 1.
That implies its the last beta for 10.3.3.

The build number has a "b" tho, so it means this build was sent back for additional changes. 9 Points is a substantial build number change. I've seen a 3 point build number change and the final still was a few betas away. Its only a large number because it was 2 weeks since the last build. Don't read too much into it. It doesn't imply anything.

No it doesn't lol. That doesn't imply anything.
On the other hand, here's another theory about it all (relating to IPSW file icons):

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-public-beta-available.2047755/#post-24620889

Seems like the final build. Apple changes the file icon to a white Lego block on the release IPSW files.
 

GreyOS

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it is entirely pointless to test previous betas when a new X.0 is out because everyone is already on iOS X.0 that is going to test a beta.
It's not entirely pointless, because they remain two separate releases that (Apple believes) individually need beta testing. Sure, if you're just a casual user who's only interested in sampling the latest features (which is how I'd describe myself), it may seem pointless to have two - you'll probably just want the latest version. If you're a very keen and dedicated public beta tester, you might get personal satisfaction from beta testing both and knowing both releases will be as good as possible due to your contributions. If you're a developer, it might be necessary for you to ensure your app(s) work on the beta with the most imminent final release, before moving on to the beta with the more distant final release.
edit: Missed C DM's similar reply.
 
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