Front page shows it. This twitter account is not directly tied to Apple. Just because it doesn't show, doesn't mean its not true. They had problems a few weeks ago claiming tvOS was final release, when it was beta. I wouldn't trust it.Its still not showing on https://twitter.com/iosreleases
So the final release expected on 05 june?Front page shows it. This twitter account is not directly tied to Apple. Just because it doesn't show, doesn't mean its not true. They had problems a few weeks ago claiming tvOS was final release, when it was beta. I wouldn't trust it.
I don't know. All I know is that iOS 11B1 will be out next week around 12PM PDT.So the final release expected on 05 june?
But then you will contradict yourself.I don't know. All I know is that iOS 11B1 will be out next week around 12PM PDT.
Who said another beta of 10.3.3 will come out? Look at 8.4/9. 8.4 was in beta until June 30th, but a new beta did not come out after 9.0 beta 1.But then you will contradict yourself.
Two betas concurrently?
Regarding iOS 11 beta 1, will that be an OTA or will that just be an IPSW?In order to get developer betas, yes, you need to pay $99 a year.
If you still want to run betas, but are willing to wait until they hit the Public Beta Channel, you can register here:https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/
These typically come out the same week as X.x.x builds, but X.0 builds usually not for 4-6 weeks after the first developer build.
[doublepost=1496164627][/doublepost]Rather interesting that there are no macOS or tvOS updates..
Who said another beta of 10.3.3 will come out? Look at 8.4/9. 8.4 was in beta until June 30th, but a new beta did not come out after 9.0 beta 1.
And I already admitted I was wrong previously because 9.3.3 was in beta the same time as iOS 10. I didn't know that because I was already on iOS 10. Which proves my point that it is entirely pointless to test previous betas when a new X.0 is out because everyone is already on iOS X.0 that is going to test a beta.
Oh yeah, regarding iOS 11 beta 1, will that be an OTA or will that just be an IPSW?
Okay? Again, that happened with iOS 8.4/iOS 9. As I mentioned above.If final 10.3.3 is not released on 5, yet 11 beta 1 is released, then you have two concurrent betas on 5 june.
Also beta 2 is only 9 points over beta 1.Okay? Again, that happened with iOS 8.4/iOS 9. As I mentioned above.
The build number has a "b" tho, so it means this build was sent back for additional changes. 9 Points is a substantial build number change. I've seen a 3 point build number change and the final still was a few betas away. Its only a large number because it was 2 weeks since the last build. Don't read too much into it. It doesn't imply anything.Also beta 2 is only 9 points over beta 1.
That implies its the last beta for 10.3.3.
No it doesn't lol. That doesn't imply anything.Also beta 2 is only 9 points over beta 1.
That implies its the last beta for 10.3.3.
Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely pointless. While there are certainly many that make the jump right away to the next available version, there are more than likely various developers and other users who still stay on the beta for the current version (for various reasons, or perhaps no particular reason) until its wrapped up.Who said another beta of 10.3.3 will come out? Look at 8.4/9. 8.4 was in beta until June 30th, but a new beta did not come out after 9.0 beta 1.
And I already admitted I was wrong previously because 9.3.3 was in beta the same time as iOS 10. I didn't know that because I was already on iOS 10. Which proves my point that it is entirely pointless to test previous betas when a new X.0 is out because everyone is already on iOS X.0 that is going to test a beta.
Anyone with iphone 6/6s can do benchmark? Since ios 10.3 i have 50% of cpu power. Its probably because their battery fix. I had no problems on 9.3.5
Not to mention the public testers testing 10.x.x and the 11.0 beta will most likely not be available to PB testers until about DP 3-4 which will be several weeks out.Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely pointless. While there are certainly many that make the jump right away to the next available version, there are more than likely various developers and other users who still stay on the beta for the current version (for various reasons, or perhaps no particular reason) until its wrapped up.
But think about it logically. Those that are testing apps would have already updated to 10.0 before the next iOS 9.3.3 beta was seeded. Therefore, they aren't going to downgrade to go back to 9.3.3. They want all the time possible to make their apps compatible with iOS 10.Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely pointless. While there are certainly many that make the jump right away to the next available version, there are more than likely various developers and other users who still stay on the beta for the current version (for various reasons, or perhaps no particular reason) until its wrapped up.
Well last year, PB 1 came with DP 2.Not to mention the public testers testing 10.x.x and the 11.0 beta will most likely not be available to PB testers until about DP 3-4 which will be several weeks out.
Also the x.x.X versions are typically bug fix versions and developers may not necessarily need to test their apps since no new API's and such but beta testing for any new issues or installation issues could certainly be worth doing before a full public release. I suspect not all developers will immediately start working on a beta 1 of the new version but rather may wait until its a bit more baked before they start.But think about it logically. Those that are testing apps would have already updated to 10.0 before the next iOS 9.3.3 beta was seeded. Therefore, they aren't going to downgrade to go back to 9.3.3. They want all the time possible to make their apps compatible with iOS 10.
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Well last year, PB 1 came with DP 2.
Seems like various developers would still interested in the current version until the new one is actually publicly released, and more than likely there are other even non-developers that stay on the current betas for at least a while longer before going for the new version. Some replies related to this from the front page thread where this came up:But think about it logically. Those that are testing apps would have already updated to 10.0 before the next iOS 9.3.3 beta was seeded. Therefore, they aren't going to downgrade to go back to 9.3.3. They want all the time possible to make their apps compatible with iOS 10.
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Well last year, PB 1 came with DP 2.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-10-3-3-to-developers.2047755/#post-24621017Developers will. They need to make sure their apps run well on this when it gets released to the public.
[doublepost=1496175664][/doublepost]Clearly not a developer. We will be testing this, as our users will be on iOS 10 until late September.
There's certainly that as well. In addition, some will potentially start working on parallel tracks of making sure the latest betas for the current iOS version are working well with their app(s), just as they would be looking at how things behave with the betas for the new iOS version.Also the x.x.X versions are typically bug fix versions and developers may not necessarily need to test their apps since no new API's and such but beta testing for any new issues or installation issues could certainly be worth doing before a full public release. I suspect not all developers will immediately start working on a beta 1 of the new version but rather may wait until its a bit more baked before they start.
The public beta version is now out as well. Same build as the dev version that was released earlier today. You can enroll there free as @Mlrollin91 mentioned.I'm new to IOS Betas...and I have a question..
Do I need to pay money in order to receive Developer Betas? It is true?
I mean,do I need to enroll intro Apple Developer Program no?
Are you saying IOS 11 beta 1 OR iOS 10.3.3 beta 3 or iOS 10.3.3 public . Or you mean there will be 2 betas at the same time. Which is unlikelyMy prediction
June 5: IOS 11 beta 1
iOS 10.3.3 beta 3 or iOS 10.3.3 public .
That's it folks !
Also beta 2 is only 9 points over beta 1.
That implies its the last beta for 10.3.3.
The build number has a "b" tho, so it means this build was sent back for additional changes. 9 Points is a substantial build number change. I've seen a 3 point build number change and the final still was a few betas away. Its only a large number because it was 2 weeks since the last build. Don't read too much into it. It doesn't imply anything.
On the other hand, here's another theory about it all (relating to IPSW file icons):No it doesn't lol. That doesn't imply anything.
Seems like the final build. Apple changes the file icon to a white Lego block on the release IPSW files.
Two betas at the same time . It already happened last year.Are you saying IOS 11 beta 1 OR iOS 10.3.3 beta 3 or iOS 10.3.3 public . Or you mean there will be 2 betas at the same time. Which is unlikely
It's not entirely pointless, because they remain two separate releases that (Apple believes) individually need beta testing. Sure, if you're just a casual user who's only interested in sampling the latest features (which is how I'd describe myself), it may seem pointless to have two - you'll probably just want the latest version. If you're a very keen and dedicated public beta tester, you might get personal satisfaction from beta testing both and knowing both releases will be as good as possible due to your contributions. If you're a developer, it might be necessary for you to ensure your app(s) work on the beta with the most imminent final release, before moving on to the beta with the more distant final release.it is entirely pointless to test previous betas when a new X.0 is out because everyone is already on iOS X.0 that is going to test a beta.