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The iOS 10.x.x Beta Speculation Thread

nortonandreev

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Mlrollin91 said:
Its too hard to tell. It could be buggy. I remember last year people having issues with iOS 10 and watchOS 2.0. And then I believe it got to the point where the watch needed to be on 3.0 to work with iOS 10. Like you couldn't pair a 2.0 watch with iOS 10. I had issues with that.
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Don't expect a redesign. The theme is every 3 years a small update, every 6 years a full redesign. We just got our update with iOS 10.

iOS 1-3
iOS 4-6
iOS 7-9
iOS 10-12

Next redesign (major overhaul) will be iOS 13.
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I don't think that they're gonna follow this pattern. User needs are changing all the time and so do apps. One of the biggest problems that Apple has is the tend to stuck to the initial concept of the products. The concept of iOS might have been very good when it was released, but this was 10 years ago. Since then, a lot things have changed and we're really in a point where a major iOS redesign is needed. I doubt that they'll do that in iOS 11 or in near future at all, but they should do this. The same goes for macOS, as well. El Captain and Sierra were disappointing releases in every single way.
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madara889 said:
Do you think apple will release 10.3.3 tomorrow!!
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I don't think so. But I think it'll be during this week.
 
Mlrollin91

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gwhizkids said:
LOL! You may be correct, but I think I'd stop trying to out predict Apple based on past trends. Remember, this is a big year for them so a more significant update could be forthcoming. Or not!
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Meh. iOS 10 was a milestone, iOS 11 isn't. It was the 10th Version of iOS. I'm not getting my hopes up for tomorrow. Anything good won't be introduced until September with the iPhone 8 anyway.
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nortonandreev said:
I don't think that they're gonna follow this pattern. User needs are changing all the time and so do apps. One of the biggest problems that Apple has is the tend to stuck to the initial concept of the products. The concept of iOS might have been very good when it was released, but this was 10 years ago. Since then, a lot things have changed and we're really in a point where a major iOS redesign is needed. I doubt that they'll do that in iOS 11 or in near future at all, but they should do this. The same goes for macOS, as well. El Captain and Sierra were disappointing releases in every single way.
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I don't think so. But I think it'll be during this week.
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I have very low expectations for tomorrow. iOS 10 was kind of weak as well. I am much more interested in watchOS 4.
 
sbailey4

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gwhizkids said:
My guess, based on server loads, is "no".
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I wouldn't suspect "server loads" would dictate anything. No different than a release any other time whereby anyone with a device can update once its released but they seem to push it out automatically in a staggered fashion. So if its not released I would say its not because of server load but some other reason.
 
Evelyn Harthbrooke

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Mlrollin91 said:
Its too hard to tell. It could be buggy. I remember last year people having issues with iOS 10 and watchOS 2.0. And then I believe it got to the point where the watch needed to be on 3.0 to work with iOS 10. Like you couldn't pair a 2.0 watch with iOS 10. I had issues with that.
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Don't expect a redesign. The theme is every 3 years a small update, every 6 years a full redesign. We just got our update with iOS 10.

iOS 1-3
iOS 4-6
iOS 7-9
iOS 10-12

Next redesign (major overhaul) will be iOS 13.
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No it won't lol. I highly doubt we'll wait until iOS 13 for a new revamp. Just watch your claims be destroyed by the WWDC keynote.
 
Mlrollin91

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KamranMackey said:
No it won't lol. I highly doubt we'll wait until iOS 13 for a new revamp. Just watch your claims be destroyed by the WWDC keynote.
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And if I am wrong, I will fully admit it. But I am predicting no redesign. We just got out redesign last year. Btw these are predictions. Not claims. You should learn the difference. If anyone just made the claim it was you "no it won't lol". You have zero evidence for something coming before iOS 13. I have 10 years of precedent.

And I hope you will be big enough to admit you are wrong, if you are, in 4 hours. Because I have admitted it more than once in the last 2 weeks.

I still hope no one is holding their breath on dark mode.
 
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Mlrollin91

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batting1000 said:
Public beta site is down
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Thats actually very interesting. It didn't go down last time until closer to the PB announcement. Maybe they are just updating it and are going to more heavily push the PB site to get more people to register for when the time comes to test. I still don't expect PB for a minimum of 3 weeks.

If DP 1-> DP 2 is 2 weeks, then PB will come with DP 3 (iOS 9 timeline).
If DP 1-> DP 2 is 3 weeks, then I predict PB will comes with DP 2 like last year.
 
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Deeznuts.

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So from my understanding. There will either be a new iOS 11 beta profile or Apple will release iOS 10.3.3 today to the public & reuse the iOS 10 beta profile for iOS 11 beta?
 
Mlrollin91

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Deeznuts. said:
So from my understanding. There will either be a new iOS 11 beta profile or Apple will release iOS 10.3.3 today to the public & reuse the iOS 10 beta profile for iOS 11 beta?
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Its very well possible. Two years ago, the beta profile that developers got, strictly was names "iOS 9 Beta ...." This year its just "iOS Beta"
 
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gwhizkids

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Depending on how hard they've pushed it, I wouldn't fall off my chair if the PB were released later today. I'm betting against, but with the way Apple has shaken the beta process up in the last year, its not inconceivable.
 
Mlrollin91

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gwhizkids said:
Depending on how hard they've pushed it, I wouldn't fall off my chair if the PB were released later today. I'm betting against, but with the way Apple has shaken the beta process up in the last year, its not inconceivable.
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Ehhh, pushing PB today, or even this week is probably a solid no. Way too big of a risk with a X.0 update. They don't even release PB Beta 1 of X.x updates the same week as the DP.
 
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