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Spot on. I have a 12.9in 2018 iPad Pro. The new M4 iPad Pro would allow me to do nothing more. Absolutely nothing. And given the rumours (or lack of), I suspect we aren't getting much for iPad OS at WWDC. As soon as proper windowing, file management, etc come to the iPad I will drop £1,500 on a new one. Until then, my 2018 iPad is doing just fine.

You’d get external monitor support and less crashes when trying to copy/move more than a couple of GB of files at time.
 
You guys who want iPad to be (more) like MacBook, why don’t you just use MacBook? I mean seriously :) You guys want it to have keyboard, trackpad and MacOS… isn’t that like… MacBook Air? Perhaps what you really want is MacBook with touchscreen and pencil support. Like form factor of a MacBook Air but like 2in1? Those things seem to be terrible at least on Windows side of things. Maybe PC makers just don’t know how to do it properly but Apple would make good 2in1?
https://512pixels.net/2024/03/viticci-macpad/ tell me an apple-designed version of this wouldn't be nice to have?
 
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Ok. I'll entertain this notion. I'll say MacOS has no utility. All that horsepower in the M3 Max/M2 Ultra with nothing to show for it.

1. How many pro apps are actually optimized for 64GB+ RAM Apple Silicon
2. Mid file sistem
3. Insane GPU with less than 5 games to show off
4. Insane GPU w/RT, but game devs still prefer UE5 on Windows
5. 16-core Neural Engine w/ 18 TOPs

I can go all day.

Real PROs work with Windows
Real pros work with whichever tools enable the best workflow for the job at hand. There are absolutely contexts where an iPad is the best pro option, if the pro in question needs the things that the iPad excels at. For others it would be a Mac, for others Windows, for others Linux, etc.

I'd love to hear how a lack of AAA games on Mac is a con for professional use. You realize that the GPU handles a lot more than games, right?
 
I’m going to just quote Jason Snell: “Imagine how much more flexible it would be if it could run macOS, virtualized, when connected to an external keyboard and trackpad. Apple’s first convertible device would be able to becomes a Mac when it needed to—and exit that mode when it doesn’t. Travelers could invest in the iPad Pro and all its accessories—at a price comparable to a MacBook Air, by the way—and know that they’re getting the best of Apple’s tablet experience and its traditional computer experience.”
While I would love for Apple to allow virtualized alternative OSes on iPadOS that isn’t strictly necessary to fix the most glaring problems in iPadOS.

Background tasks need to be allowed to run freely if authorized by the user.

The Files app needs to be fixed so that it isn’t insanely slow and buggy. I’d rather have a macOS style system but I could work with an improved Files app.

The windowing system is still terrible on iPadOS. Just bite the bullet and give a free floating window mode. Problem solved. Anyone who likes the current system with stage manager can continue to use those modes.

Allow a developer mode that unlocks the system so I can install tools, including command-tools to do my job. This one is niche but it absolutely prevents me from using an iPad for anything except browsing, email, texting, watching tv & video, and reading books. I use an iPad mini 6 for that and it currently can cover 100% of my iPad usage.

I’d love a real iPad Pro but for me it doesn’t exist.
 
When i travel for work, I always travel with an iPad and an MacBook. There are some tasks the iPad can do for work that the MacBook can’t do - mainly because the MacBook doesn’t have the iOS optimized “professional“ apps (Bloomberg Professional being a big example). At the same time, the MacBook is needed for other tasks. The difference is - I can easily replace the MacBook with a Windows laptop, if i wanted. I can’t easily replace the iPad.
 
Ok. I'll entertain this notion. I'll say MacOS has no utility. All that horsepower in the M3 Max/M2 Ultra with nothing to show for it.

1. How many pro apps are actually optimized for 64GB+ RAM Apple Silicon
2. Mid file sistem
3. Insane GPU with less than 5 games to show off
4. Insane GPU w/RT, but game devs still prefer UE5 on Windows
5. 16-core Neural Engine w/ 18 TOPs

I can go all day.

Real PROs work with Windows
I will say that yes, most of the professional world is built on Windows and understandable so. For my personal life I do choose Apple devices but I also don’t buy the most expensive. Apple’s version of “Pro” is people that do video and photo editing. They should really focus more on the casual market.

I don’t think I could ever enjoy Windows especially with the ads they have now and literally every laptop is inferior to Apples. Find me Windows hardware that competes with Apples and we’ll talk but battery life and fanless designs will never have me leave.
 
Unfortunately, it still uses the same rear camera sensor from iPhone XS/XR. Not Pro in that respect.
If the new iPad Pro with camera bump was as thick as the iPhone 15 Pro with camera bump (12.75 mm), the iPad's camera bump would be 7.65 mm for the 13", meaning 60% of the total thickness would be just the camera bump. I think I prefer them using the older sensor and lens.
 
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If the new iPad Pro with camera bump was as thick as the iPhone 15 Pro with camera bump (12.75 mm), the iPad's camera bump would be 7.65 mm for the 13", meaning 60% of the total thickness would be just the camera bump. I think I prefer them using the older sensor and lens.

Apple doesn't need to use the iPhone 15 sensor, but rather something with Focus Pixels, which starts with iPhone 11.

For example, if Apple used the same sensor as iPhone 12 (8.9mm), the camera plateau and glass lens would be 3.8mm. Seems Smart Folio would add about that much.
 
You guys who want iPad to be (more) like MacBook, why don’t you just use MacBook? I mean seriously
Well you can draw on the screen of your macbook with a sharpie and tell us how it performs. We already do use Macbook Pros and ipads. Both offer half of what we need. What we need is Mac OS, and tablet and pencil functionality. Apple has used “OSX doesnt work well on tablets” as a poor excuse to justify selling us twice the hardware since the ipad came out. We know (not think) thats BS because many of us already use Mac OS on Wacom Pen & Touch displays, and it works great, it just costs $6000 and is too much gear to be mobile with. What Apple had called an iPad Pro, and charged MBP prices for, is little to no different than what any other ipad model does. These should all just be called ipads, while ”Pro”, if it means anything at all anymore, should be reserved for full featured tablets running an OS geared toward professional work. In this case, Apple has made very fine hardware worthy of running mac os, and yet hobbled it by running the same hastily ported iphone os they put on every other ipad they've ever made. A big 13” ipad is less a mobile device than a portable creativity workstation, it makes no sense at $2600 for it to come with the same os as an ipod touch.

Every. Freaking. Year.
 
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I agree, the iPad Pro has way to much horsepower for the tasks it can perform.
Besides image and video editing, who needs an M4 chip?

The landscape camera is a BIG WIN for me, at least I can now use it for work meetings, and don't look completely off. And the new keyboard is nice.

To be honest, if you need more productivity than an iPad Pro for work, get a MacBook Air. It's incredibly thin and portable. For me, the new iPad Pro is the perfect solution for traveling, where I can sacrifice productivity in favor of a thinner touchscreen device.
 
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How much TOPS to be considered AI?
Microsoft recently defined a minimum of 40 TOPS for an "AI PC". And then Nvidia chimed in and said that's only sufficient for the most basic AI tasks, since their RTX GPUs provide from 100 to 1300+ TOPS.

So we'll have to see what Apple does with those 38 TOPS.

Regarding the A18, since the iPhone is more thermally constrained than the iPad, I'd assume that it will be less capable.
 
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